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The Winning Steak Cinemas: Video Archive & Criticism Thread Updated

JayBee

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its because snake holds the nades not right in front of him, but slightly behind him. the spindash specials (as long as you do not continue past him, aka, jump cancel away usually), a well spaced uair, and the back throw are moves that when spaced can hit snake without the nade blowing up in your face. it is easier said than done, but with sonics tight hitboxes he can get away with a few attacks. add that to the glide toss and how sonic is very good with items, and snake will have to be more presice to blow you up without risking his defences.

sometimes, i run at the snake when he's pulling out the grenade, but stop short of his tilt range it throws them off, because even if they drop it right there, im still out of tilt/grab/jab range and there is a grenade sitting next to them that could harm them. now the spacing advantage can go either way, because sonic is essentially in thier grill, but not in attack range. most times they will do something, so you can bait and punish.
 

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Updated with a ton of new videos of X, Blue, FAE, Kojin, Tenki, Arikie, Wes, Umby, DGD, and myself.

Go check 'em out, and keep submitting videos. :D
 

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i almost forgot about those vids dude. cool. i wish i recorded the sonic ditto wiht thunderhorse at the second gamepad tourney. crazy mindagmes. anyone who can go to the next one, should. in the name of steak...
 

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WHOBO is tomorrow, and I have no idea if any of my matches are gonna be recorded.

However, I do know that I supposedly have a grudge match with 3000 that's gonna be broadcasted on the live steam.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=229419

The link to the live stream will be up sometime tomorrow, so maybe you might be able to catch me in action.
 

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my sonic is garbage.

i was gonna make a combo vid, but im just gonna show the sonic dittos instead. my sonic sux. watching myself in these vids was the worst thing i've ever done. If anyone says i'm a good sonic after these, then you sir, are without steak.


will upload shortly. feel free to critique.
 

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i was gonna make a combo vid, but im just gonna show the sonic dittos instead. my sonic sux. watching myself in these vids was the worst thing i've ever done. If anyone says i'm a good sonic after these, then you sir, are without steak.


will upload shortly. feel free to critique.
Go to the sBR Kojin, maybe you'll get some idea of what's wrong.
 

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You can't handle the steak!

Kojin (Sonic) vs Shadofiend (Sonic)

Kojin (Sonic) vs Shadofiend (Sonic) 2
Kojin (Sonic) vs Shadofiend (Sonic) 3

Kojin (Sonic) vs Shadofiend (Sonic) 4

BionicSonic (Sonic) vs RelaxExorcist (Sonic)

Kojin (Sonic) vs RelaxExorcist (Sonic)
Kojin (Sonic) vs RelaxExorcist (Sonic) 2
Kojin (Sonic) vs RelaxExorcist (Sonic) 3
Kojin (Sonic) vs BionicSonic (Sonic)

Kojin (Sonic) vs BionicSonic (Sonic) 2

i dunno if this is all of it, but that's what i have. it got funny to me when i started seeing these guys mimic a few of my tendancies every so often, but i guess we all learned something. and that's why, every tourney I go to, all the sonic mains will be forced to do this. it works, in way.
 

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Slowly working our way to the meat department of the world... LOL!

Also did anymore Sonic matches on the stream happen to get recorded?
 

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The only other times a Sonic was ever on live stream was:

Friday:
-3000 vs. Espy
-DSF vs. Espy

Saturday:
-3000 vs. M2K
-3000 & T-Rex vs. some other team, I don't remember
-Espy vs. Le THieN (we had to get off for a match, so we didn't get to finish, and we were completely even at our last stocks :p)
-Espy & Zori vs. M2K & Inui
-Espy & Zori vs. Dojo & Santi
 

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The only other times a Sonic was ever on live stream was:

Friday:
-3000 vs. Espy
-DSF vs. Espy

Saturday:
-3000 vs. M2K
-3000 & T-Rex vs. some other team, I don't remember
-Espy vs. Le THieN (we had to get off for a match, so we didn't get to finish, and we were completely even at our last stocks :p)
-Espy & Zori vs. M2K & Inui
-Espy & Zori vs. Dojo & Santi
Darn, I stopped watching because I was tired of watching Metaknights :/ I only saw two of those matches. How did the team matches go Espy?
 

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They were kinda icky. Zori kept getting killed off too early (my fault too for not saving him or getting the opponent off of his back).

I managed to hold my own, but whenever Zori'd get killed or knocked far away they'd just start ****** me instead.

Although I do admit I gave them (both teams) a hell of a time trying to kill me after Zori was gone.

Oh, and you missed hilariousness on us vs. M2K/Inui. After Zori was gone in the last game, they just started spamming nados.
 

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SS: I only watched the MK fight. The beginning was painful because you were constantly leaning towards the MK. Like you would just rush at him.. then rush at him again.... and lean towards him while being juggled, I guess trying to airdodge through or counterattack. Sonic isn't particularly safe like that, you need to spend time running away, and messing with your movement patterns even while out of range. I think you started getting that towards the end of the match, when you were experimenting with the ledge more, and eventually just.... stopping. That was cool lol.

Just mai thots. Also make sure you don't try to recover by going through the MK... you gotta really watch his use of space, and find ways to get around him before you get back to ground. MK is real good at messing with recoveries, it's hard to turn that type of situation in our favour, so IMO just get back to solid ground. idk tho
 

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less- spring>Dair

mixup ASC and offense

Mixup recover/edgeguarding

space XD

airdodge less predictably lol

be less aggressive. being too aggressive is sometimes a bad thing lol
 

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Supposedly Xyro recorded the set I had with Mr. 3000. I'll update the archive the moment those videos become available.
 

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Heck yea i got it. Espy beat mr 3000 in dittos AND placed higher than him in 1vs1 AND 2vs2.


3000 let me down. i want him to rematch at hobo 16
 

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eh...well I guess I should stop being ashamed and just post my vids so I can get better...


vs G&W

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3wV79Z1atY - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Chuky (G&W) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juuC6Egyw4c - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Chuky (G&W) 2

vs Ike

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gd0VZ9-L4xw - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Slaps (Ike)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaIDyLvHzxE - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Teh Brettster (Ike) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3UEmh8d4BI - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Teh Brettster (Ike) 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laW72zrYHmQ - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Teh Brettster (Ike) 3


vs DK

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mloqI-V0KcQ - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Mithx (DK)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF_ZOqDja_I - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Gaia (DK) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5stagodFj8 - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Gaia (DK) 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gMDNPxjWMws - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Gaia (DK) 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Qco7LDLbLQ - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Jingo Joe (DK) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N_wzF2njVtc - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Jingo Joe (DK) 2

vs Bowser

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbTZkYQ7r7I - Khaoz (Sonic) vs Drage (Bowser)




Some of them are kind of old, but they all have dates on them.


Edit: All are offline.
 

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Nice video Kojin! I enjoyed, major lulz.

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You made a typo Kojin.

No longer do we participate in Sonic matches, but the correct term is "Steak dittos."

Otherwise the vidja was awesome.
 

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steak vids are hard to fulfil expectations, especially with the number of vids i had. i can't believe so many synchronized moves happened. that in my opinion was what made the vid more than good. the lol factor.
 

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Steak dittos are fail without the lol factor.

Even if money is on the line, it's okay to just repeatedley use homing attack and try to both die over the top at the same time.

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