The tier list V.3 discussion (What next?)

[Tenki]

Noone ever reads the stickies.

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it's kinda sad, considering our stickies are among the most up-to-date (or updated) on the site lol.
edit: and we put soooo much love info juicy steak filling into them, too.
random plug: new sig

 

[Le_THieN]

Noone ever reads the stickies.

:[

it's kinda sad, considering our stickies are among the most up-to-date (or updated) on the site lol.

random plug: new sig

Well, if it's any consolation, I'm genuinely intrigued by the character, and I don't see how it would hurt me (or anyone else for that matter) to learn as much as possible from this experience, starting with Sonic. I'd rather not get my *** randomly beat by a random Sonic player. I would have never heard the end of it after OH SNAP!. =)

 

[Tenki]

seriously though, our stickies have a metric king's ***load of information. reference, anyone?

Side-B: Charge cancel

Now we get to the fun stuff. Imagine Sonic running at you. He can dash attack, dash grab, or jump. When you hear that sound, get ready for a dash attack.
Here he comes!
-spin sound-
SPOTDODGE!
???!

..and you get grabbed.

Many players are conditioned (by bad Sonic players) for straightforward attacks. Heck, you can condition your opponents for it mid-game! You can use the sound to get to reflexive players' heads.

On another side of things, in the middle of a fight where you're rushing your opponent and attacking often, you can begin and hold the charge for about 1/2 - 1 second. This usually brings out one of two reactions: A preparation against your spindash's release (usually prepare for an attack or grab), or an attack to hit you out of charge/as soon as you release (aggressive attack). For the first case, you'll have to do a bit of reading on your opponent to prepare a counterattack. Believe it or not, the second case is actually much easier to deal with. While charging, if your opponent jumps at you, then shield/spotdodge out of the spindash. You can usually grab opponents out of their aerials.

Like I mentioned before, side-B is an amazing defensive tool. With a combination of its close-range counterattack via invincibility and shield cancels, you can use it to effectively camp in your opponent's face and bait an approach or a punishable defensive reaction from your opponent. And if your opponent catches on and tries to grab you? Release the charge. They can't grab invincibility frames.​

ASC cancel

TL;DR​

Develop your own tricks, develop your own game, and "learn to player".

So there you have it.

Hopefully, if you managed to read all of this crap and keep up with it this far, you should feel a little more confident in using all your spindashes correctly/efficiently. But please, especially if you just found out about something (prime example: ASC)...

Don't spam moves

=] that will be all.

...yeah. Good luck with that.

 

[Kinzer]

LOL that's sad, and I'm not pointing this directly at you Thien (Hell I can't even blame you for it) but NOBODY reads the stickies. XD

 

[Jim Morrison]

Mostly because our stickies are TL;DR threads. Tenki's thread kind of scared me with 3 full posts. Sonic guide too is very long and lots to read. Index thread is a bunch of threads. Matchup thread is kind of messed up atm, for Green being away.

 

[Espy Rose]

Pee Es: I wholeheartedly accept my nomination as the hedgehog tamer. =)

Actually, I would think the correct term is 'steakling'.

Sorry that I don't have anything new or fresh to discuss, just wanted to get this out of the way.

Oh, and I really look forward to showing you how fast Sonic can be played at FS5 THieN. 3K's Sonic is slow (still awesome though).

Mmhmm. I'm getting so ****ed pumped for that one event.

 

[Le_THieN]

Actually, I would think the correct term is 'steakling'.

Sorry that I don't have anything new or fresh to discuss, just wanted to get this out of the way.

Oh, and I really look forward to showing you how fast Sonic can be played at FS5 THieN. 3K's Sonic is slow (still awesome though).

Mmhmm. I'm getting so ****ed pumped for that one event.

LOL, you'll probably whoop the **** out of me. =)

I'm not excited about the drive, but I get to tear Hylian apart in friendlies all night tomorrow night, so it's all good.

 

[Jim Morrison]

I've never been to a tournament, but it's gotta be sooo lame to be eliminated the first round.

Go, go, go Espy, I want you to go Super Shawnik Steak mode.

 

[Espy Rose]

You know, even in my first ever tournament of Smash, I've never been knocked out first...
Uh oh, I think I just jinxed myself, XD.

Imma just do my best.

 

[R4ZE]

atleast the tier list recognizes how gay mk and snake are.

the makers of the tier list arent focused on sonic at all so im suprised/happy that a climbed at all. but i suspoect he will climb more as the good players are able to showcase his abilities.

 

[Blistering Speed]

Who cares about placings?
We're just scrubs who are playing other scrubs, so our results aren't viable. I can say this false statement without any evidence because I'm in the SBR.

I should be off to a tournament if there's enough people (Smashfest if there's not 13+) mid February. I know it won't count for much as it's small and we're all scrubby, even though like England's best players have said they're going, lol.

What tournament? I'm English and find it impossible to find tournaments. Also out of curiosity, England has best players now? I can't think of one name.

 

[Chis]

@Blister Speed, http://www.smashboards.com/forumdisplay.php?f=126

The Europe forums. Where in England are you anyways?

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Y-Y-Y-Yorkshire!!!!

What's interesting is how soon the next tier list is coming out. It's only 6 months away...does anyone think Sonic (or any other character for that matter) will change a right lot both character and tier position wise?

 

[ROOOOY!]

Blistering Speed, we're in Lincolnshire.
It probably won't end up a tournament, just a Smashfest. If it was a tournament it would be a small scale one. Melee and Brawl.

And best players is a bit subjective. Aiko said he's going, who if I recall correctly, won TKI, the first (?) major English tournament. There will be a fair few good players though.

The main point I was getting at was that even though smaller tournies count for nothing in Ankoku's chart, they can't really consider who is there. For example, I saw results a few months back where a Sonic/Mario/Marth main had won a gamestop tourney or something with 97 entrants, and I'd never heard of any of them :\

And meh. Sonic won't really move much around the tier list. People should resign themselves to not caring and just accepting right now.

 

[Xiahou Dun]

What tournament? I'm English and find it impossible to find tournaments. Also out of curiosity, England has best players now? I can't think of one name.

This.

I had pretty much given up hopes of finding tournaments near me.

*Is aroused*

 

[ROOOOY!]

Just go to the European forums that Chis linked up thar ^^

 

[Xiahou Dun]

Just go to the European forums that Chis linked up thar ^^

I did. They don't seem to recognise anywhere other then London as existing. Apart from 1 Birmingham tournament which is about as far away as London but in a different direction. I also saw a couple scattered tournaments moving further up north. Absolutely nothing for the Southwest... :/

 

[Blistering Speed]

Blistering Speed, we're in Lincolnshire.
It probably won't end up a tournament, just a Smashfest. If it was a tournament it would be a small scale one. Melee and Brawl.

And best players is a bit subjective. Aiko said he's going, who if I recall correctly, won TKI, the first (?) major English tournament. There will be a fair few good players though.

Tsk shame, competitive smash is so hard to come by here. I do vaguely remember an Aiko, I think from Melee (or maybe Im just thinking of Aniki). Good luck to you anyway.

Y-Y-Y-Yorkshire!!!!
What's interesting is how soon the next tier list is coming out. It's only 6 months away...does anyone think Sonic (or any other character for that matter) will change a right lot both character and tier position wise?

Holy **** yes! I live in North Yorkshire!

I could definately see Olimar moving up moreso (even though he moved up the most out of anyone this list). I can also see Sonic moving up two more places by next list, barring some make or break discovery, but most of the SBR are too stubborn to change their mind's drastically about Sonic.

 

[Orange_Soda_Man]

And meh. Sonic won't really move much around the tier list. People should resign themselves to not caring and just accepting right now.

agreed. The rankings list is where it's at anyways =/

 

[JayBee]

I'm neither caring nor accepting. is that ok?

 

[TheREALShadowChaos]

Good thing that he rose. Didn't expect him to go above PT though.

 

[Le_THieN]

Oh, and I really look forward to showing you how fast Sonic can be played at FS5 THieN. 3K's Sonic is slow (still awesome though).

LOL, you'll probably whoop the **** out of me. =)

This is precisely what happened a mere 10 hours ago at an epic Final Smash 5.

Espy is the most amazing Sonic main in the Milky Way.

 

[RenegadeRaven]

I want vids! D=

 

[ROOOOY!]

I want vids and results!

 

[infomon]

Espy is amazing, he's totally on a winning steak.

/thread

 

[ROOOOY!]

This won't count as a 'big tournament' to any of the SBR now...will it?

Majority : 93 people? Must've all been scrubs. *ignores result*

 

[memphischains]

i respect espyballofpuffydeath

 

[JayBee]

are there vids of Final Smash 5?

 

[Espy Rose]

Yes. They will hopefully be up by the end of the week.

You get to watch me choke in my last stock vs. Razer in our last part of the match.
I coulda gotten 3rd... XD

Oh well, next time.

 

[JayBee]

lol. im just trying to pay more attention to ranking sonics, so i was glad to hear about Espy, for example. But I guess seeing Puffball fail will be fun too.

You sir, are without steak.

 

[thecatinthehat]

Puffy, have my lovechild.

 

[JayBee]

Sonic soft banned? lol wut

because he is so good that people are beginning to ban him in tourneys. jk.

LOL I'm not even kidding about this though. Game Table Tournament 1/10 Results : check it. Malcolm gets 5th but as Wario because there was a soft ban on Sonic (and someone else). this is hilarious. Steak tier actually exists...

 

[ROOOOY!]

What the ****?

Lol, that's terrible.

But then, he is F tier.

F for fantastic.

MK can suck on his 'Super ****' tier, and Marth and those lot can rot in A tier. A for Awful.

 

[JayBee]

nothing on metaknight though. ladies and gentleman. We need to save the world. from itself.

PS: I'm noticing some people are using my old ban metaknigt sig in thier own across smashboards. I have too much power... mwahahahaha

 

[Ryan-K]

do you guys enjoy being stupid or something?

it's called a joke

stop eavesdropping on other people's scenes and taking their inside jokes seriously when you don't know what the **** you're talking about.

i can tell you don't know what you're talking about because malcolm has seconded wario since forever you ****ing idiots

 

[aeghrur]

Someone's not haaaaappppppyyyyyy. :o

 

[Browny]

INTERNETS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS

nocaps

 

[Chis]

Oh why do you post here?

 

[JayBee]

Oh why do you post here?

very funny.

+10 Kojin Points for you.

 

[Napilopez]

ryan, i don't think anyone here was making a big deal of it either. I took it as a joke, at least. And its not eaves dropping if its a public forum =/