The Peach Q & A Thread

[Skrem]

I just spent the last 2 hours reading pages 1 through 38, and it amazes me how many people post without previously reading any of the replies. So many questions have been answered that people keep asking - it blows my mind.

One question I have which is not among any I read on this thread :

How would other peach users handle an extremely campy Kirby user ? The pr1ck floats around stalling and only comes at me when I go aggressive, I could almost sit and kill 8 minutes of a match against this kirby user because of how he fights my peach. It rather irritates me, and I have a difficult time approaching him because he keeps higher ground than me most of the time. Usually up and away, where I can't throw turnips diagonally. Few times I can surprise him with a quick glide toss, but then he'll often just ground pound, deflect it, then continue running away.

MY first idea was to punch the guy in his junk so he can't play thus I win, but somehow that's not a great option.

Also wanted to know about free turnip pulls a bit. I have a really hard time not peach bombing when I try, usually leaves me pretty vulnerable. Is turnip free pulls worth risking an accidental peach bomber? I use my c-stick for most of my aerials so it would be tough for me to switch to being a b-stick using peach.

Thanks guys - great threads, great videos, great responses, great peaches. You're all part of my peach family now

I'm Skrem btw, I've mained peach for a year and a few months on melee and brawl now

 

[Razmakazi]

glide toss upwards + utilt/uair

oh, and count that douchebag's jumps so u can punish the landing w/ a glide toss

and...
http://allisbrawl.com/video/album.aspx?id=10791 <--- loool

edit: u actually spent 2 hours reading all this...? XD

 

[Morrigan]

I have some questions regarding Brawl+.

1) How much does more hitstun benefit her?

2) What buffs/nerfs has she received? I heard that DSmash has been improved. Is that true? Have they given her air dodge more invincibility frames? Are there any other move changes to be aware of?

You'll get more attention in Smash Workshop, there's a Peach thread too

 

[Skrem]

glide toss upwards + utilt/uair

oh, and count that douchebag's jumps so u can punish the landing w/ a glide toss

and...
http://allisbrawl.com/video/album.aspx?id=10791 <--- loool

edit: u actually spent 2 hours reading all this...? XD

Certainly did. I'm not the type of person to ever disregard another persons experiences, beit using peach or against peach. It's important to play a very solid game, and make as few mistakes against your enemies as possible. Smashbrothers is not forgiving, and I'll be dammed if I think I know it all then get ruined by the falcon pawnch.
Thanks for the advice btw, those videos might help me a little bit - but it doesn't appear that kirby is an easy matchup.... how many puffs does he get? I've never counted before

Edit: Also curious to know what the public opinion is about peachs d-tilt ?? I sort of found the hitbox that makes it spike if someone is holding a ledge, ive tested it a little bit and im not too successful but i'd say 1/5 the time I can successfully spike a gimp on a middle weight cpu. Had I a friend that played smash that could help me further test it, I'd love to see how human response can affect the success rate of the spike, it really kicks a$$ when it hits. I found it actually a good tactic for edgeguarding, glide-toss up and d-tilt the edge, its range helps keep them off the edge a bit too if you time it before the invincibility frames.

 

[Battletanx_Commander]

Does Peach's Fair out range all of R.O.B.'s attacks *excluding projectiles* and are there any other of her attacks that can do the same?

 

[Skrem]

if you sweetspot it correctly..... i think so. Except that robs best killing move is his upa and neutral air, which sort of messes peach up if she lets him get under her.
of course, theres lots of possibilities, and I don't know robs moveset as well as others, so your best bet would be read about peach/rob matchups.

 

[FattyFatFatso]

I'm pretty sure this has been asked before but, what is the secret to defeating KOS-MOS?

 

[Moocowalex]

Uggh... Ok, I'm having problem with momentum cancelling.

As soon as I'm knocked way into the air (when I'm in a reasonably high percent) I automatically fair or dair, even though I know I'm supposed to uair, but I just can't help even when I'm thinking to myself to uair. Any tips on getting rid of this habit?...

 

[East]

Moocowalex: Everytime you get knocked away, take your thumb and flick up on the C-Stick. During the match, keep that thought on your mind. Your reaction might start out slow with it, but you're breaking a bad habit. Keep at it and it should start working.

Can peach use toad to break similar to how G&W uses the bucket?

 

[hiROI]

Moocowalex: Do what East said.

East: Toad comes out too slow I believe. I do uair >> second jump/float,. Deletes a lot of momentum

 

[deepseadiva]

Float? Floating adds a ton of pushback, similar to using a b move like Bomber or Parasol. Not a great idea.

Toad has no braking properties unfortunately.

Moocowalex, proper momentum canceling only comes with experience. I had the same problem, but just focus on it (even after you fail and die, make a note to do it properly next time). Remind yourself all the time.

 

[hiROI]

Really?

I survived a lot of things with uair to float.
I thought it cut down a little since she is stationary in the air

 

[East]

Float? Floating adds a ton of pushback, similar to using a b move like Bomber or Parasol. Not a great idea.

Is this because all of the momentum is concentrated directly toward the blast zone [aka shortest route to doom]?

Toad has no braking properties unfortunately.

Can someone please fire Sakurai, or tell him to go a fiddle with his Kirby games, and get Capcom to make the next Smash?

 

[Skrem]

oh gawd! capcom smash the concept gives me nightmares!

 

[goodkid]

Your questions can be answered live in the chat if you visit in the evening ^_^

Link to Peach Chat: http://xat.com/ImperialEra

Go to the chat so we can discuss Genesis O_O

 

[Xyless]

Really?

I survived a lot of things with uair to float.
I thought it cut down a little since she is stationary in the air

I do the same.

 

[East]

Is there some sort of analysis on Peach's turnips that explains the things like the damages of each of the turnips and the things that affect the amount of damage on a turnip that is thrown?

Oh, Xyless. Your avatar is quite legit.

 

[Morrigan]

Is there some sort of analysis on Peach's turnips that explains the things like the damages of each of the turnips and the things that affect the amount of damage on a turnip that is thrown?

Err, their faces? IIRC, distance and smash throw/normal throw affects as well. oh, and stale moves, of course.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=196561

 

[Airgemini]

What do you guys do with people who like to airdodge on the ground a lot followed by some kind of quick move?

 

[Dark.Pch]

Say wha??????????

 

[Airgemini]

Like lets say someone is in the air and then they airdodge on the ground and then use some quick attack?

 

[Skrem]

spot dodge or air dodge? because you can't air dodge on the ground, it has a function that lifts you off the ground to air dodge.
spot dodging is much faster than rolling to avoid a hit, if thats what you're referring to.

if thats the case, and you find they spot dodge lots, it helps to use lots and lots of turnips

 

[deepseadiva]

Like lets say someone is in the air and then they airdodge on the ground and then use some quick attack?

Usmash usmash usmash.

 

[White-Peach]

normally i try to hit them with UAir when I'm beneath them, but they can airdodge.

Fastfall NAir always does the trick because UAir ends quickly and NAir comes out fast and stays out forever :D

 

[Rickerdy-doo-da-day]

Like lets say someone is in the air and then they airdodge on the ground and then use some quick attack?

Nair Nair NAIR

Seriously, do a ground Floting Nair, chase them and use the Nair just as they're about the hit the ground. You should hit them with a strongish part and it'll get them every single time if they airdodge. I do this all the time and it works wonders against people who like to do it to try and punish a potential whiffed attack

 

[PrepareYourself]

How can you be unpredictable with Fair?

 

[mountain_tiger]

How can you be unpredictable with Fair?

Make sure to only use it when necessary. For instance, auto-cancelled Fairs are oftn used to space or approach, right? As Dark Pch once said, mixing up Nair and Bair in those situations can help out a lot. Though Fair is predictable by nature tbh.

 

[Mikha'el]

Should c-stick set as special be default for a maining Peach?

 

[Battletanx_Commander]

Should c-stick set as special be default for a maining Peach?

No, it is really just personal preference. C-stick set for smashes is much more useful for spacing aerials and glide tossing.

 

[Mikha'el]

Oh, o.k. I just thought it might be default to make it easier to do all the turnip tricks.

 

[hiROI]

You can do the B-Stick tricks using C-Stick.

 

[MarthFanatique]

You can do the B-Stick tricks using C-Stick.

Yes, the most notable being Free Turnip Pull, but you'll probably want the C-stick for DI and reverse and backward glide tosses and such.

 

[deepseadiva]

On Brinstar, do we have any tricks for the barrel things in the middle?

And when would it/wouldn't it be profitable to split the stage? (Against aerial characters, when at kill percents, etc. situations like that)

 

[Airgemini]

I know I've read somewhere that if the barrel things are pretty low and you Dthrow you can spike.

 

[chimpact]

I thought about posting this in the matchup thread and decided against it.

Which low tier has the best chance of beating peach?

 

[Praxis]

I thought about posting this in the matchup thread and decided against it.

Which low tier has the best chance of beating peach?

Bowser, Ness, Yoshi, Jigglypuff, and Samus all have slight disadvantage to even matchups. No low tiers have an advantage.

 

[_Keno_]

Ok, so, I ALWAYS auto-cancel fair and bair by mimicing the melee float cancel. For example, I never shorthop>fair>autocancel, instead, i instant float>fair>release float> autocancel.

I am in the habit only canceling those moves like a float cancel. Did any peaches that changed from melee used to have the same problem? Its just bair and fair for some reason. I really dont play but twice a month, and that is at tournaments, so I cant really practice on people, but I still want to overcome this before my next tourny.

A video of me playing - - - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4LfRSs9qHo

 

[Airgemini]

Has anyone ever tried Dthrow > Peach Bomber?
I've been using it lately, and it seems to work a lot around 60% lower depending on the character.

 

[mountain_tiger]

Has anyone ever tried Dthrow > Peach Bomber?
I've been using it lately, and it seems to work a lot around 60% lower depending on the character.

Hmm... that sounds very risky. If the opponent spotdodges or double jumps, you get punished massively. And it only does 1% more damage than Dthrow > Bair. Then again, at low percents, Peach Bomber can lead to Fair. It might make a good surprise tactic.

 

[BrianTheLion]

how or which way do u DI to get out of peaches Dair????