diddy also loses to snake, beyond that you get a lot of different opinions on the snake vs wario, marth, and falco matchups that go anywhere from "snake ***** this character" to "this character ***** snake"...olimar and pikachu too actually lol
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Brawl may not be a traditional fighter, but the competitive ruleset and gamestyle is based around a 'traditional' fighting games'. Time limit, the illusion of "health bars (3 stocks)", combos, 1v1s... Isn't what every smasher says these days, along the lines of "Smash is the fighting game franchise i like the most"?As much as I hate to give one liners, I will:
"Brawl doesn't have a traditional fighting game tier list because it's not a traditional fighting game."
wtf... we do have a traditional fighting game tier list. wtf are you guys talking about LOLAs much as I hate to give one liners, I will:
"Brawl doesn't have a traditional fighting game tier list because it's not a traditional fighting game."
I just wanted to reply to this.Stop exaggerating. It's not amazingly easy to land, but anyone saying that the move is downright awful seriously needs to stop what they're doing and actually play the **** game. :\
He's too popularIf MK is in a tier of his own, why isn't he banned?
You should know better than to say something so incredibly silly.If MK is in a tier of his own, why isn't he banned?
You know the more I read your posts the more ridiculous you seem.I just wanted to reply to this.
Because in case you weren't aware, there have been a lot of people who have come up to me believing that I am in fact a Ganon main.
If that isn't a statement as to the fact that my Ganon is ****ing legit, I don't know what is. I have in fact also used Ganondorf in tournament.
People who get hit by SideB just don't know the matchup. In actuality, it's a horrible move with massive risk and medium reward. Yeah, I mean I've had my fair share of fun times getting people to roll into techchase D-airs which is probably the best reason to go for a Flame Choke, but smart people just realize that Ganon can't really significantly punish you for rolling away or waiting. In fact he actually has a lot of trouble punishing getup attacks.
Yeah you have some guaranteed combos as well, it's just a pity that his F-tilt and D-tilt don't kill really early. Oh yeah DA can kill pretty early, but it's actually difficult to buffer.
You know what's a relatively low risk high reward techchase tool? Snake's D-throw.
Now to change subjects, Bowser's aerial SideB is overrated. I mean seriously, it's frame 17. You can anti-air that **** on reaction. One reason why Ganon goes neutral with Bowser lol.
This post is legit. You sound like someone that actually understands fighting principles.I just wanted to reply to this.
Because in case you weren't aware, there have been a lot of people who have come up to me believing that I am in fact a Ganon main.
If that isn't a statement as to the fact that my Ganon is ****ing legit, I don't know what is. I have in fact also used Ganondorf in tournament.
People who get hit by SideB just don't know the matchup. In actuality, it's a horrible move with massive risk and medium reward. Yeah, I mean I've had my fair share of fun times getting people to roll into techchase D-airs which is probably the best reason to go for a Flame Choke, but smart people just realize that Ganon can't really significantly punish you for rolling away or waiting. In fact he actually has a lot of trouble punishing getup attacks.
Yeah you have some guaranteed combos as well, it's just a pity that his F-tilt and D-tilt don't kill really early. Oh yeah DA can kill pretty early, but it's actually difficult to buffer.
You know what's a relatively low risk high reward techchase tool? Snake's D-throw.
Now to change subjects, Bowser's aerial SideB is overrated. I mean seriously, it's frame 17. You can anti-air that **** on reaction. One reason why Ganon goes neutral with Bowser lol.
Way to strawman his statement. The only property he mentioned regarding the Koopa Klaw, was that a 17 frame startup is terrible and he is 100% correct.You know the more I read your posts the more ridiculous you seem.
Aerial Klaw has more range that you think it does, deals a considerable amount of damage (about 18.5%) fresh, and has grab armor.
Plus any Koopa mains that are foolishly approaching with Aerial Side-B will get punished, and you'll be hard pressed to find a good one that does.
If MK is in a tier of his own, why isn't he banned?
*pats back*If MK is in a tier of his own, why isn't he banned?
Ganon could chase people in the air above him after he hits a grounded opponent with dair.I wish Ganon had Sonic's Up B.
That would be so cash.
Someone call the Brawl- crew, we have some kind of genius innovator here.Oh sure, while we're on the subject, I wish Falco's lasers exploded like C4 when they hit and then rained bananas and bombs down after the explosion with each bomb explosion unleashing more bananas and bombs.
So the bombs and explosions exponentially increase until the game crashes and you win by default.Oh sure, while we're on the subject, I wish Falco's lasers exploded like C4 when they hit and then rained bananas and bombs down after the explosion with each bomb explosion unleashing more bananas and bombs.
To expand on this, I would like to say that the reason Flame Choke is not good on Ganondorf is because nobody NEEDS to use a spotdodge or a laggy move against him. Doing so is merely a matter of preference (and probably a mistake in the match-up anyway). The only things Ganondorf has that force spotdodges are: standing grab (horrible), dash grab (horrible), pivot grab (would be good if it wasn't Ganon), Flame Choke itself (would be good if it wasn't on Ganondorf) and Dark Dive (as an attack?!). The only time Ganondorf should get an FC off is if he dashes towards you and you think it's a character who can actually do something and spotdodge by instinct.Ok people, you need to understand that it's a matter of mix-up potential, let's say for example, I predict a spotdodge or a laggy move, I can FC the endlag, it's things like that which result in people getting legitimately FC'd.
FC would be an amazing move... if somebody else had it, like 90% of Ganon's other moveset.
I can't say this with certainty as most of the character boards don't have frame data for get-up attacks, but it can't be too hard to powershield get-up attacks on reaction, just learn the tick that tells you a GUA is coming and PS for punishment.In fact he actually has a lot of trouble punishing getup attacks.
Yeah you have some guaranteed combos as well, it's just a pity that his F-tilt and D-tilt don't kill really early. Oh yeah DA can kill pretty early, but it's actually difficult to buffer.
If your opponent is busy shielding, then he's busy not getting inside and ****** Ganon, so at least that's good for something. There's not too much reason for an opponent to just sit in his shield anyway, as he can PS most of Ganon's moves on reaction anyway. Ganon can, well, run a lot and hope that your opponent thinks that Ganon can do something.Ganon's problem in a nutshell, what the hell can he do against a shielding opponent? He has no effective ways to force people out of shield.
You are my favorite poster on Smashboards.Mach Tornado has a hitbox on Frame 27.
You can anti-air that **** on reaction.
Sonic's Dair originally spiked from what I hear.I wish Sonic had Ganon's dair.
That would be so cash.