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The Botanical Gardens of the Mushroom Kingdom

Are you awesome?

  • Well DUH!

    Votes: 160 30.8%
  • lolz no I'm a minority

    Votes: 245 47.1%
  • I'm confused :c

    Votes: 115 22.1%

  • Total voters
    520

-LzR-

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I didn't know you can chaingrab her that much. Definitely gives an early lead if I can get the grab which shouldn't be hard.
I tried to nair out of a lot of stuff, but some of the things are legit and not even nair can break in time. I guess I just have to play more and figure out out things.
Do you have like, some random very useful tips against Sheik? Nothing like she is easy but just how do deal with the tilts or the dash attack? Also I am not good with Peach so I still lose to her :(

And what do you think of the ratio? Our advantage?
 

z00ted

The Assault of Laughter ﷼
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It's like 60:40 Peach.

Don't stay short floated too often, a short hop float Peach loses to Sheik because of her fast uairs, fairs, bairs, etc. Try to be next to Sheik or directly above her and dairing. If you stay above her on platforms or just float high, you'll take a lot of damage.

Throw out dairs like there is no tomorrow (for once in your life), because Sheik hugs the ground really hard and doesn't really have any moves to outprioritize it. Short hop dairs work wonders because it hits her even if she crouches.

Save your fair for 120%, you won't need it before then anyways. Out of shield nairs and bairs are your best friend for punishing mistakes, and bairs are really good for spacing against her because it beats out her fair. If she gets you in a f-tilt lock, just start mashing A in an neutral position and you should be nairng out of it in no time. Sheik hits shield a lot, if you're a faster player - you should be abusing that with nair also.

I'm not a big advocate of using turnips in this matchup, simply due to how quickly Sheik can get in and jab/f-tilt and you won't really have a strong out of shield option other than throwing it or ground float nairing or bairing. Use them, but very sparingly and at a distance (for the most part). It works well on her while she's offstage, though. And it can give some nice setups when recovering vertically.

I sorta like throwing out d-tilts and z dropped turnips in this matchup, but that's just me.

Kilik lives close to me so we play often, he's a top 5 Sheik.

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Rickerdy-doo-da-day

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The really important thing to remember vs Sheik is that her aerial mobility is absolute tripe. If you find her trying to wall you with aerials, simply just walk away and F Tilt/Dash Attack her. Or wall her back with your Fair/Bair with the combined effort of Floating at about head height and your 2nd jump.


Bair is definitely my aerial of choice out Fair and Bair vs Shiek. I find Bair is very effective against an airborne Sheik because of it's speed and because most of the time it'll beat whatever aerial Sheik is throwing at you

Obviously if you're Floating all the time, Sheik will probably attempt a DAC Up Smash which is not good news if it hits. If you think it's coming, land from your Float with a Fair whilst moving backwards to wall it off.
Nair out of any F Tilt strings
Dair is pretty good at racking damage on her so throw in a few SH Dairs when the opportunity presents itself. Go for the Uair string if you're confident you can do it right
Edgeguarding is really important, watch how Kyon does it. Force Sheik into a position so that Sheik either dies or is put into a position where you can punish her


Kyon does a very good job of showing how Peach can tackle Sheik on the ground so be sure to watch those. If you're getting swatted a lot by Sheik's aerials then use more Bair and abuse the fact that her aerial mobility is very poor - she's certainly no Wario


Edit: lol crap, Buzzkillmatic beat me to it, I spent too long writing this :(



So I've been wondering - is there not a thread dedicated to LGBT on Smashboards? By no means do I have a problem with LGBT discussion here but I've always found it odd that there's no mention of a LGBT thread anywhere
 

z00ted

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LOL, Rick definitely added in some good points.
Looks like you've gotten a lot of help, LzR. Hope you put it to good use.
 

-LzR-

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Wow guys! That's a lot of effort. I appreciate it a lot and I will put my Peach to work and beat those Sheiks.
I had no idea she wasn't mobile in air, I thought the opposite. That should help.
 

Nordal

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You interrupted a Queen song. You can never be forgiven. Also this:

Illmaticcc: (1:37:49 AM) i think im gonna wind up poor when i die
octilleryclinton: (1:38:54 AM) I think you're gonna end up poor when you die too
Illmaticcc: (1:39:02 AM) ty
octilleryclinton: (1:39:05 AM) np
 

z00ted

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Christian McAdoo 3:39 am
only because
i will give it all away
 

KassandraNova

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Ohhhhh. Okay. I forget that there are other shieks out there other than sweet ol Judy. <3

That is a cool username though! ^_^
I'd love to play tree sometime! I really wanna go to either Texas or Florida sometime. So many cool peeps there. <3

:phone:
 

SSBBDaisy

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I mean we are classy divas. So that makes sense.

:phone:
I said I side this female dog. Cause shes a lady that sells herself ;)

I love peach and I hate her cause I love daisy more.


Maybe if she was more of a hoe I would love her :/.

Ohhh and I'm not gay and I side peach k ~~~~~ Nice to meet yall fellow hoemen.
 

SSBBDaisy

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Sooo... Peach is strictly for gay guys? WTF

No wonder every single peach main I've met is gay O_O!!!! OMG


But I like peach. We can share her. In seperate beds of course D:.
 

SSBBDaisy

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Well I'm new here so I guess I'll ask a good question.


What kind of STDs does ur peach shoot out from her up tilt?


Mine shoots a mixture of AIDS, Herpes, and Strawberry Flavor.


My peach's booty bump injects all kind of STDs into her opponent.
 

Dark.Pch

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This is my pool for SKtar and I'm in a terrible state of mind as of now.

Pierce- Marth
DRN- ZSS?
Tyrant- MK
Shrugo- Falco
Uno- ????
Tymer- ????

I have to think of something fast to deal with this anxiety or there is no way in hell im making it out of this pool
 

Silly Kyle

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Omg you have such a hard pool, Dark Pch!!

I have a few matches of me vs. Tyrant if you want to see what might help and see the mistakes I made.

I also have a video vs. K9's Falco if that might help you with the matchup, although it's not quite the same level as Shugo's Falco, but still.

You can totes do the Marth matchup. After fighting Mr. R at E4U, it made me realize how ez other Marth players are.

You got this! Stay positive.

Dark Pch's pool:


To Dark Pch:

Got some videos from the last tournament I attended.

Results:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=324970


Loser's Semifinals
(best of 3)
Silly Kyle :peach: vs. K9 :falco:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwvu6w93p4M&feature=relmfu

Loser's Finals (best of 5)
Silly Kyle:peach: vs. KiraFlax :pit: / :rob:
Only matches 1 and 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSqHEK4wz_w&feature=related

Grand Finals (best of 5)
Silly Kyle :peach: vs. Tyrant :metaknight:
Only matches 1 and 2:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EB1HHpKlwa0&feature=relmfu

Critique would be appreciated on all of them lol. Now that I'm #1, I gotta keep my edge on Kira and K9 and the rest of AZ. And I want to take a game off Tyrant next time! ;)
 
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