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Taj is the best Mewtwo (Ask Taj Stuff Thread)
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LordAizen
Smash Journeyman
that was an awesome article not just about Puff(hell it barely had anything about Puff) but overall in general.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
yea, he posted that **** on smashboards around the time there was a huge discussion about banning wobbling. good read tho.
for those that dont know, m2 players got that true skill.
for those that dont know, m2 players got that true skill.
LordAizen
Smash Journeyman
that only applies to good M2 players though. For beginners like me we're not skilled yet lol.
Marth4ever.
Smash Cadet
You'll get, eventually
Not really, it just puts people into the "tumble" animation. If they're not aware, it can cost them some time on their recovery, but you do anything the instant you're hit with disable in the air. Most of the time, fast fallers aren't prepared for the hit so they're focused on the fast fall l cancel and not mashing an attack at you like Peach players.
AXE 09
Smash Master
I learned something the other day... Mewtwo's disable can shield stab o.O
I had no idea. I was playing Vman this weekend and he shield stabbed me with it. We were both like wtf? Lol.
I had no idea. I was playing Vman this weekend and he shield stabbed me with it. We were both like wtf? Lol.
The Phenom
Smash Lord
I'm thinking a SH JC.d Nair is shorter in duration than a forward tilt.
I'm not to sure about a SH JC NAIR vs a Down tilt though; are they the same length in duration?
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I like SC4 =)
I'm not to sure about a SH JC NAIR vs a Down tilt though; are they the same length in duration?
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I like SC4 =)
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
Man, what do I do when I'm on a platform. It's a horrible position when I'm on one and my shield is up. Is it best to try to jump down or go up and look for an alternative way down? I usually get ***** in this position.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
you can light shield and shield di toward the edge of the platform if you think they might hit you off, if you teleport as you fall off it makes up for the added shield stun you would have had. its a bit risky tho and is punishable if they intentionally knock you off. imo its a bit less controlled
you can full shield and angle towards the heat, after shield stun end just teleport oos. dont get predictable with your tele.
if you are on the top platform go down. 2nd level either way works.
you can wd oos and jump (hold ur dj) and go to the edge.
m2 haas ways to get around. just mix it up, his special ability is recover and stage control.
The Phenom
Smash Lord
I'm patient
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
I don't understand SH Jc.d NAIR.I'm patient
djc nair?
you have to remember that this particular technique takes 3 button presses b4 anything even goes down. its 3 moves not just 1. ftilt probably slower. d tilt prob faster with iasa. without iasa slower.. I see djc-N as having more start up.
what are you scheming?
ive always wanted to see frame perfect djc fairs and nairs.
with and without hitboxes. and possibly ledge canceled djc's.
The Phenom
Smash Lord
Sorry.
SH JC'd Nair= Short Hop Jump Canceled Nair...I shouldn't have added SH in what I was trying to describe since a JC nair can be either performed by SHing/FHing; you got the idea however.
I should just address it as a JC Nair.
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Thanks.
You said that d tilt can be faster with IASA; what is IASA? I can look at it in the discussion boards.
Do you think d tilt without IASA can be faster than a JC'd Nair?
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Hey, I just watched Mewtwo's Origin on Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gUvTa8Lx98&feature=related
That's where your avatar picture came from I think.
Question...
Does the video have some reason why you play Mewtwo?
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I also want to watch Mewtwo's Return. I had no idea that there was a movie about his return to the Pokemon Show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3IByyCPaS8&feature=related
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EDIT:Ok...a two on my post time...now that's a coincidence...Its a coincidence, believe me!!!
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Well from the pokemon games, red/blue/yellow m2 was super ******. The strongest of the strong. Pure purple power. When smash 64 came out I was into pokemon, and I played pikachu. When melee came out I mained pikachu, and like some time after learning about mewtwo I played him. I pretty much went with, you unlock him last(GW is actually last but he is the worst aka joke character lol).....he must be the best character in the game. And he was by FAR the coolest mothafukka in melee, and still is. the movies had nothing to do with it, it was just the overall feeling of empowerment that mewtwo had. my dude is UBER lol. DIP!
I think its gonna be alot more **** to refer to the aerials in a more....double jump canceled way
djc-N
djc-U
djc-B
djc-D
djc-F Put an I in front if you mean low to the ground or instant. Idjc-N
none of thats official, but well, its official haha. JC nair is really confusing and impossible sounding to me lol.
IASA is "interrupt as soon as" for the best example pick marth and do his dtilt. Watch how it takes quite a bit of time for him to return to neutral. but that stand up animation can be canceled into another attack or dash. That means you can interrupt the rest of the animation.
its hard to see but m2s uptilt dtilt and ftilt I believe all have IASA frames. Sorry I cant give you the exact frames I actually have the **** written down in my mewtwo pad somewhere. I really should get around to making that guide. So lazy. Maybe Ill just get it started and update piece by piece. I just need to get this SD loader working so I can really get all the info. I dont want to half *** it. **** needs to be impressive if it goes down.
I think djc-N is around the same as a ftilt just based on observation. If you take the nair alone its faster but imo having to press jump jump Z/A takes some time. dtilt is pretty fast on its own so idk.
djc-N is pretty fast tho, It could be faster than both. Its close so I dont really know.
another long post about almost nothing lol/
according to superdoodleman dash attack upsmash dsmash and fsmash also have IASA frames. but I know it was old data and it missed IASA on the dtilt, but its def there.
I think its gonna be alot more **** to refer to the aerials in a more....double jump canceled way
djc-N
djc-U
djc-B
djc-D
djc-F Put an I in front if you mean low to the ground or instant. Idjc-N
none of thats official, but well, its official haha. JC nair is really confusing and impossible sounding to me lol.
IASA is "interrupt as soon as" for the best example pick marth and do his dtilt. Watch how it takes quite a bit of time for him to return to neutral. but that stand up animation can be canceled into another attack or dash. That means you can interrupt the rest of the animation.
its hard to see but m2s uptilt dtilt and ftilt I believe all have IASA frames. Sorry I cant give you the exact frames I actually have the **** written down in my mewtwo pad somewhere. I really should get around to making that guide. So lazy. Maybe Ill just get it started and update piece by piece. I just need to get this SD loader working so I can really get all the info. I dont want to half *** it. **** needs to be impressive if it goes down.
I think djc-N is around the same as a ftilt just based on observation. If you take the nair alone its faster but imo having to press jump jump Z/A takes some time. dtilt is pretty fast on its own so idk.
djc-N is pretty fast tho, It could be faster than both. Its close so I dont really know.
another long post about almost nothing lol/
according to superdoodleman dash attack upsmash dsmash and fsmash also have IASA frames. but I know it was old data and it missed IASA on the dtilt, but its def there.
The Phenom
Smash Lord
Thanks Kaostar. And lol, when I looked at the time on my clock...there was a nine on the time!!!
Rubyiris
Smash Hero
Mewtwo sucks.
Taj should quit mewtwo and play Falco.
Taj should quit mewtwo and play Falco.
Zone
Smash Champion
Taj, My friend is quitting Shiek and Falco, and going all Mewtwo now because of your latest combo video. And no matter how many times My falcon 2-3 stocks his mewtwo he keeps trying. So now that i've accepted that he has transformed into a mewtwo main. What sort of general advice should I give him vs Falcon. Should I just direct him to your matchup thread?
stingers
Smash Obsessed
zone with the most inspirational post ever
Wow, I don't know what to say, lol. I'm glad that I've inspired him that much. He can watch my latest matches against GG7 for an idea of how to handle some things with the match-up, and definitely direct him to the match-up thread and he can post his specific questions there.
Falcon is such an unforgiving character for an aspiring Mewtwo to play against, lol. DI a launch the wrong way and it is your death.
Best of luck to your friend! :D
AXE 09
Smash Master
Yeah, Taj does that to people
V3ctorman did the exact same thing as your friend haha.I think we just need more people to represent more characters. Now a days, most people only play high tiers. So when new players join the scene, all they see is the top like 6 characters =(
Taj is our hero
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
EVERYtime Taj releases a video or a match I get these crazy urges to do the impossible.
Zone
Smash Champion
Yeah pretty powerful stuff. I've been playing Zelda forever, Cosmo is very good, but If I could get him to play me I feel like I can show him alot of dirty little tricks I've developed myself.
Alright I'll direct him. and recommend that video.
His name is tropical taco when he decides to post.
Yeah taj Axe Vectorman, You guys are beast low tiers. and I know and understand how much work you've put into your characters.
I think the main problem is when people approach a low tier character. They for one, already start off with the notion they suck(which they might), so they automatically already don't want to start the uphill struggle. Secondly they don't want to experiment. Experimenting is very important becasause Fox Falco Falcons all those high mid tiers have alot of rep. with hundreds of people playing those characters. All they need is each of those hundreds to find something good about the character and share it once a year, and bam hundreds of things that advanced the metagame. Low tiers well we apparently only have like 5-10 REAL reps. then after that you got people who randomly pick them but put no Real effort into them. so we get... 5-10 new things a year. (I know the scale is not realistic just making a point here.) That because of our lack of rep we develop slower.
Axe came in the Zelda boards once and posted that turn around after Up+B stuff. I had played Zelda for like 3 years. and Never knew that. then one zelda player was like "old news" wtf lol. WHY DIDN'T YOU SHARE!! I know they didn't share because I've only seen every thread and every post in Zelda boards for the past 3-4 years lol. Pretty sure I would've seen that and picked it up. That one option opened up my edgeguard game so much more. I'm way way less afraid of doing 3 down airs in a row on fox. facing away from the edge now.
I'm very experimental. Which is what advances your character, especially one not as explored as the low tiers. you would think after so many years they'd be figured out. But it's not the case. I remember you messing around with jab taj. At first you kept playing with it. and saying it's almost useless to use, but in your combo video you busted it out a few times. Guessing your opinion changed after messing with it for a while?
The final problem people have with low tiers, is they play way different and you need to accept that before you even get started. GnW has a crap shield, so get use to light shielding almost everytime, and using your disjointed hitbox to punish approaches by fox/falco. just an example.
Alright I'll direct him. and recommend that video.
His name is tropical taco when he decides to post.
Yeah taj Axe Vectorman, You guys are beast low tiers. and I know and understand how much work you've put into your characters.
I think the main problem is when people approach a low tier character. They for one, already start off with the notion they suck(which they might), so they automatically already don't want to start the uphill struggle. Secondly they don't want to experiment. Experimenting is very important becasause Fox Falco Falcons all those high mid tiers have alot of rep. with hundreds of people playing those characters. All they need is each of those hundreds to find something good about the character and share it once a year, and bam hundreds of things that advanced the metagame. Low tiers well we apparently only have like 5-10 REAL reps. then after that you got people who randomly pick them but put no Real effort into them. so we get... 5-10 new things a year. (I know the scale is not realistic just making a point here.) That because of our lack of rep we develop slower.
Axe came in the Zelda boards once and posted that turn around after Up+B stuff. I had played Zelda for like 3 years. and Never knew that. then one zelda player was like "old news" wtf lol. WHY DIDN'T YOU SHARE!! I know they didn't share because I've only seen every thread and every post in Zelda boards for the past 3-4 years lol. Pretty sure I would've seen that and picked it up. That one option opened up my edgeguard game so much more. I'm way way less afraid of doing 3 down airs in a row on fox. facing away from the edge now.
I'm very experimental. Which is what advances your character, especially one not as explored as the low tiers. you would think after so many years they'd be figured out. But it's not the case. I remember you messing around with jab taj. At first you kept playing with it. and saying it's almost useless to use, but in your combo video you busted it out a few times. Guessing your opinion changed after messing with it for a while?
The final problem people have with low tiers, is they play way different and you need to accept that before you even get started. GnW has a crap shield, so get use to light shielding almost everytime, and using your disjointed hitbox to punish approaches by fox/falco. just an example.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
I find it pretty cool that a zelda player actually has seen the evolution of mewtwo's jab.
Yea I thought that **** was pure trash for a minute, I still dont use it unless its for thunders but it seems solid in stopping an oos attempt or something.
about that up B thing. I was training a friend who played shiek and he mentioned he thought he did it once I just said naa son. u prob just seein things cuz he had only been playing for like 4 months. this was like 2 months b4 axe posted that thread.
Yea I thought that **** was pure trash for a minute, I still dont use it unless its for thunders but it seems solid in stopping an oos attempt or something.
about that up B thing. I was training a friend who played shiek and he mentioned he thought he did it once
I just said naa son. u prob just seein things cuz he had only been playing for like 4 months. this was like 2 months b4 axe posted that thread.
The Phenom
Smash Lord
Ok what I need to know now...
Question: What travels faster, a baby shadow ball or a charged shadow ball?
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note:A charged shadow ball has knock back, seems to have longer animation(start up animation)? , and has a bigger diameter than that of the baby shadow ball.
I believe that the amplitude of the wave(zig-zag)no pun intended, of the baby shadow ball compared to the wavelength of the charged shadow ball, is the same size and does not weigh on the speed of the shadow ball.
Question: What travels faster, a baby shadow ball or a charged shadow ball?
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note:A charged shadow ball has knock back, seems to have longer animation(start up animation)? , and has a bigger diameter than that of the baby shadow ball.
I believe that the amplitude of the wave(zig-zag)no pun intended, of the baby shadow ball compared to the wavelength of the charged shadow ball, is the same size and does not weigh on the speed of the shadow ball.
My opinion of Mewtwo's jab is the same as it has always been. It is pretty much worthless. It is SUPER fun to use though, and I love the way the move comes out, but I just wish it had real hit stun and not just a "Surprise! I hit you!" factor. I love using it for spacing against certain SHFFL approaches, out of shields, spacing against someone's shield, and covering that zone in between tilting and grabbing to maintain a strong presence. It comes out one frame slower than grab, but I like that it hits high, and it almost perfectly auto spaces into my down tilt on most characters so I can sometimes even shield stab.
Zone
Smash Champion
lol point made. Just shows you experimented alot :D which is what the low tiers need more of.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
taj-do u think jab is m2s most useless move? and do u think any of the other ones are useless?
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
I'd take Jab over F-throw anyday.
Such a situational throw
Such a situational throw
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
<3 Zone's sig.
Zone
Smash Champion
lol thanks. I made this a really long time ago >.>; I just got bored with that blue one and switched back.
Mewtwo's rapid A jabs are the most useless, but it's almost a tie between jab, Mewtwo's Confusion and Disable, because they're all so horrible that if anyone knows that they can punish you for actually landing it, they would have ZERO utility, lol.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
How exactly does Mewtwo get punished for landing a disable?
I don't wanna talk about it. 
stingers
Smash Obsessed
mewtwo can't get punished for landing a disable >.> you're trolling
Just remember guys; Disable has more stun due to more damage, while Shield break has less stun due to more damage.
Even if they hit you after being hit by Confusion you could probably cc dtilt. But then they could probably cc dtilt/smash also.
Even if they hit you after being hit by Confusion you could probably cc dtilt. But then they could probably cc dtilt/smash also.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
we shouldn't be punishing disables with dtilt if we are gong for damage.
ax dair combo is probably best.
djc-D, djc-u, fair/bair. obviously you gotta read di/percent.
I agree A, A worst move.
confusion is bad. but, I have noticed just keep it for emergencies and its good. tourney only. ppl often air dodge trying to l cancel. hit people who are shielding cuz its unblockable and sometimes they **** up the tech or air dodge trying to tech. often means like never.
I like all of m2s throws. f throw is bad but its cool. still if ppl di away at the edge expecting d throw you get aight distance. but they are high up
disable is punishable if they are in the air. its stupid.
mewtwo is about mind games. nothing ****ing works! its all a sham.
ax dair combo is probably best.
djc-D, djc-u, fair/bair. obviously you gotta read di/percent.
I agree A, A worst move.
confusion is bad. but, I have noticed just keep it for emergencies and its good. tourney only. ppl often air dodge trying to l cancel. hit people who are shielding cuz its unblockable and sometimes they **** up the tech or air dodge trying to tech. often means like never.
I like all of m2s throws. f throw is bad but its cool. still if ppl di away at the edge expecting d throw you get aight distance. but they are high up
disable is punishable if they are in the air
. its stupid.mewtwo is about mind games. nothing ****ing works! its all a sham.
Jim Morrison
Smash Authority
No one that is actually good reads this thread :|...I don't wanna talk about it.
AXE 09
Smash Master
^I see how it is hahaha