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Q&A Sheik Strategy & QnA

DtJ Jungle

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I've played M2k is sheik dittos vanz. it's balls. though i suck so that might need to be taken into account.

Tec0 has some nasty combos.
 

soap

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m2k is not invincible or anything in the sheik ditto. he is solid but he is just gay and edgecamps and chaingrabs, which good people kind of know how to work around. I didn't see him do anything particularly controlling when we did like 3 hours of dittos.

the "epic" sheik ditto sets will be homo and boring and nobody is gonna watch them anyways
 

earla

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what is showing off tech skill? i was told sheik is the least technical.

are there any AT's with sheik?
 

KirbyKaze

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I believe at this point in time Sheik should be able to do her ledge waveland with good invincibility, distance, and consistency to recover effectively after grabbing the edge. There's probably more technical skill there than in Jigglypuff as a character.
 

Drephen

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i dunno about all this europe us drama

all i know is if i shiek ditto someone, i will chaingrab them all 4 stocks and enjoy every second of it

morality has no say in competitive video games

ima beat all your ***** :)
 

Nihonjin

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i dunno about all this europe us drama

all i know is if i shiek ditto someone, i will chaingrab them all 4 stocks and enjoy every second of it

morality has no say in competitive video games

ima beat all your ***** :)
You do what you gotta do to win.

I actually agree with you. Well..except for the part where you beat me..:lick:
 

xbombr

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i dunno about all this europe us drama

all i know is if i shiek ditto someone, i will chaingrab them all 4 stocks and enjoy every second of it

morality has no say in competitive video games

ima beat all your ***** :)
You'll chaingrab them to 90% then Dsmash 43 times. No one stands a chance against that ****.
 

Banks

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all sheik players should find time to sheik ditto =D

including me and you Vanz. and we can hug it out after ...=D

right...? LOL
 

Banks

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^__^ <3



also, i would love to see amsah vs drephen. it'd be like the clash of the melee versions... PAL versus U.S.Gay!
 

earla

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melee pal:

sheik d-throw a spacie so they need to tech.

if you wave dash forward immediately after the d-throw, does it cover

> if they tech on spot + tech towards you?

as you can dash grab after the wave dash?
 

stelzig

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I thought about that after I posted it but editing wasn't worth it. Uhhh.

My point should have been more along the lines that since Amsah, as stelzig seems so intent to point out, is the best at using sheik's needles and other aspects besides her grab that he should have the best chance of taking out Chu's climbers. Then I realized that Amsah has little IC's experience, so it may not be a good indicator of the matchup. It would be a great set though nonetheless because Amsah's sheik is **** good.

HAHA thumbswayup :laugh:
That's not really what i was talking about, i was just talking about people being able to learn more from watching PAL sheiks in general. After having learned the basics in NTSC that is :p

For the ICs matchup i have no idea who would be best to watch. Probably NTSC matches against chu :p
 

Luma

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earla:

no, against spacies you have to either read them or guess

you can do a real techchase against falcon but ofc it is way harder in pal since you already need 1 dash to be in position to punish him for not teching/grabbing if he techs on place
 

Nihonjin

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earla:

no, against spacies you have to either read them or guess
I disagree. When you Dhtrow and they DI towards you (So they're close) you can simply wait and see if and what direction they tech and follow them.

When they DI away from you dash in their direction (don't go into a full run, just the initial dash), if they tech in place, grab them. If they tech towards you, simply follow them. If they tech away from you, wavedash forward (otherwise it's hard to start running again) then boost grab them. And if they don't tech, jab reset to grab (or Dtilt to fair at higher percentages).

You don't have much room to think, but you definitely don't have to guess. Just react. =]
 

Brookman

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don't forget to boost grab kids, gives you more distance.

edit: if you think this is a guessing game then you're playing it wrong. 'reading' counts as guessing, unless you do it 100%. Then it's called cheating.

edit: Banks is the biggest boss that I have seen, thus far.
 

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All i have to say is i'm super happy that melee is alive in europe again/still. There was a large amount of time where i heard nothing from them. Props to you guys.
 

Lawrencelot

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All i have to say is i'm super happy that melee is alive in europe again/still. There was a large amount of time where i heard nothing from them. Props to you guys.
Europeans suddenly started traveling a lot. Also, some Swedes quit smash before that, and the Dutch mainly did Dutch tourneys without international activity. But we internationalized suddenly, dunno why but it's good ^^. I blame Ryanair
 

Plairnkk

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does your cat make TOOOO much noise? think there's no other way?

YOU'RE SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO STUPID!!!

KITTEN MITTENS!
 
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