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LOL. I was gonna say "Is that Hyro?", but I read the link and yea it is.
Guess this means you won't go to Whobo =(.Wow such ****ing bull****.
Don't host a tournament if your going to screw over the winners like this.
Wow..
I feel bad for the prize winners and Plank. Both ended up wonly paying money out of their pockets and lost way more then they spent.WOW! i feel really bad for ally, this is pretty gay. Everyone should come to genesis 2 though, genesis *****
I agree. Doesn't seem like the best way about going about it.I don't think anyone has mentioned this but... if you bring this issue into court, wouldn't that shine unwanted light on our community? I mean, are we not technically gambling in more ways than one? Which is illegal in most cases outside casinos in the USA, isn't it? I could be totally wrong I am not an expert on these matters, just saying.
Stating that this is gambling in any legally liable sense would apply to any place that runs a fantasy sports league, a tournament of any kind or even a raffle (the last of which is probably the most affected by dumb luck, which the legal definition of gambling tends to focus on). That reasoning wouldn't hold and least of all result in any kind of enforcement since outside of MLG these are player run events, what kind of person with any actual political or law enforcement clout would even care to pay enough attention to the smash community for it to reflect poorly on us?I don't think anyone has mentioned this but... if you bring this issue into court, wouldn't that shine unwanted light on our community? I mean, are we not technically gambling in more ways than one? Which is illegal in most cases outside casinos in the USA, isn't it?
Tourney was located in Virginia, Dc area. Technically this would be classified under Dc laws, not Virginia.At least in NJ (I've looked it up), this is not gambling. It differs state to state. Most states consider this a competition of skill.
if you don't have the time to read it, here's an auditory abstractSALT AND VINEGAR
There is some Gaming law that protects us...Fino linked it to me but this was a LONG time ago. I may be wrong, but I doubt it has changed.I don't think anyone has mentioned this but... if you bring this issue into court, wouldn't that shine unwanted light on our community? I mean, are we not technically gambling in more ways than one? Which is illegal in most cases outside casinos in the USA, isn't it? I could be totally wrong I am not an expert on these matters, just saying.
Ah ok, sorry for my ignorant post. Now I know!Stating that this is gambling in any legally liable sense would apply to any place that runs a fantasy sports league, a tournament of any kind or even a raffle (the last of which is probably the most affected by dumb luck, which the legal definition of gambling tends to focus on). That reasoning wouldn't hold and least of all result in any kind of enforcement since outside of MLG these are player run events, what kind of person with any actual political or law enforcement clout would even care to pay enough attention to the smash community for it to reflect poorly on us?
the point is, people should not be eating ANY loss for HIS poor planning. if u buy something from me and i break it, i still owe you that thing. just because you don't have it anymore doesn't absolve you from the debtsucks for plank
sucks for those who won
brawl sucks
meh...but seriously i do feel sorry plank...really though people....think of how big of an event this was...how much planning and effort had to go into this, adn it was all done by a single person, not by a group of people, just one, i'd say he's probably eating the loss more then the winners of the tournament.
should people not care for people in the middle east? what about starving children around the world? tsunami and haiti victims?yeah it sucks but at this point what are you going to do -.-
theres NO money to be paidout, and i agree with scar suing plank isnt gunna do anyone any good
also 2 other things bother me
1. wtf why are ppl complaining that didnt win money? like **** effects you
2. me and plank are tight, and i know for a fact he didnt run away with any money, in fact he lost some. so this being a "coincidence" being his last tourney has nothing to do with it
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLif you don't have the time to read it, here's an auditory abstract
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bFDFXJ-Vhc#t=15m40s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HX0fIi3H-esI'll sue him too, give me his ****ing house/car
I don't give a ****, i want my money.
ChuDat chronicles week with that Vegas tourney and one more stupid drama thing had more viewers.@coney/seagull: I've never seen so many users on a thread before... :o
you spelled "because" wrongHoly **** a lot of people are viewing this thread O.o
Now, on a more relevant note.
**** YOU PLAIRNKK
HOW ****ING DARE YOU HOST A GOD DAMN NATIONAL AND NOT PAY YOUR ****ING WINNERS?!? WHAT KIND OF BULL **** IS THIS
You have some balls man. I don't give a **** what kind of situation you put yourself in, that is YOUR PROBLEM. As a ****ing NATIONAL TOURNAMENT ORGANIZER you should've planned better! Seriously? There are a few THOUSAND dollars that went missing from doubles AND singles in BOTH GAMES! I can't imagine the frustration of the people that actually placed 1st in events becuase now they are out several THOUSAND DOLLARS! I know Ally placed around 1000, but ****, Melee had like 2x the people, so PP won around 2k. The audacity of you, ****er, to host things and get people from OUT OF THE COUNTRY to come, and then not even have a chance at being paid back for the trip? **** YOU!!! I only made 280 total, but people FOR SURE made anywhere from 350-2500 dollars (Doubles too) and you are just taking that away? I can't ****ing believe this.
I don't give a **** how good of a person you are, or what "intentions" you have, because none of that ****ing matters. If you are doing something in a business-like fashion, or ANYTHING THAT HAS TO DO WITH MONEY BEING HANDED OUT, YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ****ING DOING! **** YOU AND I BETTER BE SEEING SOME FORM OF MONEY FROM YOUR SORRY *** OR I SWEAR TO GOD I'M PULLING AND ALLY AND SUING YOUR ***
**** you and **** every tournament you have ever ****ing hosted you lousy piece of ****.
Also, I didn't exactly threaten him, so if I get an infraction or anything from this, it is just SWF protecting your sorry *** Plank.
LMFAO seriously though, this is not cool! so many people out of money, hopefully other TO's can learn from this so this never happens again but, holy **** man."Getting real tired of you ducking me man"
http://www.hulu.com/watch/50420/family-guy-time-to-pay-up
I WON A ****ING TOURNAMENT AND I NEED CASH NOW