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  • This is kinda frustrating for me....I've dedicated so much of my time to perfecting my ganondorf's gameplay...that I literally can not use anyone else remotely effectively, nor do i find most of the cast fun to play as. The only one remotely close to enjoyable to use other than ganondorf is Ryu, and i'm still total garbage with him.

    Seeing as Ganondorf is still one of the worst characters in the game, I do need to have some sort of strong secondary, but I can't for the life of me find anyone that doesn't feel clunky to me since I've gotten so used to every aspect of ganondorf's gameplay.
    The shoto's are one of the few characters in ultimate who received buffs that made perfect sense.

    I don't think i'll ever understand what the development teams mentality is when buffing characters.

    Like..Why the HELL did falco need buffs to his already strong Utilt, and aerials? Why was his up special recovery not addressed instead?

    Why did they think buffing ike's Uspecial to kill so early in place of his Uair was a good idea?

    Why did they think ness needed ANY sort of buffs?
    hold up, which update allowed Ken/ryu to tank a full hit from Ganondorf's smashes and up tilt with focus attack?

    For the longest time I remember that even an uncharged usmash or Fsmash from Ganon would destroy the super armor of the Shoto's Focus attack, but just now I faced one who not only survived a ganon Fsmash with one focus, but a Utilt with another.

    Even though I still won, It caught me off guard since for the longest time those two couldn't really use Focus attack against most of Ganondorf's moveset since they hit so hard....
    still no buffs for ganondorf.

    **** you nintendo
    link2702
    link2702
    you clearly don' t know anything about where Ganondorf is ranked.

    Just cuz you get unga bungad and walk into something stupidly telegraphed and predictable doesn't mean everyone does.


    Most folks at the competitive level still rank him dead last, or near dead last on most ultimate tier lists. He's been the worst, or one of the worst characters in each smash game since brawl. The vast majority general consensus is still that he has no good matchups, only a handful of even ones(against other low tiers.)
    GamerZardEX
    GamerZardEX
    Then how does someone with no good matchups manage to even win without his opponent getting easily baited?
    link2702
    link2702
    you basically answered your own question.

    The only way ganondorf really can win is opponents have to fall into stupid stuff. That rarely ever happens at higher levels of play, people don't recklessly run right into his Usmash or Fsmash. Folks actually know how to tech his grounded side special, they can wall tech his recovery and then punish him.

    Don't do anything stupid or reckless against ganondorf, and he can't do much at all. Rushdowns can overwhelm him being so much faster and having way better frame data. Campy/projectile based character just camp him out. He literally can't do anything against a wall of projectiles.
    I just tried to play RE6....I lost interest before even completing the the introductory/tutorial section....

    I've never been the biggest RE fan, but I liked what I played of the older games. Obviously like many folks 4 was my favorite, and the remake of 2 on pc is amazing, I got it when I built this pc, and I loved every minute of it(...while also dreading every step I took never knowing what was lurking near by.)

    I got them all on sale from steam a few days ago. Not playing em in order honestly. Started a bit with 0, then 1's gcn remake, then 4 again, all to just test em out and see how they played.

    And then I got to 6 tonight... And it feels nothing like a RE game at all. At no point did I feel any sort of dread or nervousness, definitely no fear. It was just one quick time event after the other, and was more action based than survival horror.

    Anyone who's played farther...does it get better? Does it actually start to feel "scary" at some point? Cuz that opening sequence sure didn't give me the impression it would.
    Shroob
    Shroob
    No, not really. It's pretty much kinda agreed that it's not a very good game IIRC. At the very least, 5 wasn't scary, but it was pretty fun if you had a co-op partner.... I haven't heard much praise for 6 outside of the Leon levels.
    Wunderwaft
    Wunderwaft
    6 is kind of a low point in the series, it and 0 are generally regarded as not good™ . At the bright side things can only get better from here since the rest of the series is better than those two games.
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    Why do I play better when I'm drunk? Earlier I was 2 and even 3 stocking folks as my Ganon left and right that I normally wouldn't. And while I wouldn't say I was completely smashed(intended), I certainly wasn't sober.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Maybe save some replays and see how you play when drunk? I don't know, I've never heard of anything like it.
    for any n64 owners out there...is there ANY replacement joysticks that are actually decent-good? Aside from SteelSticks of course(not really in my budget and the waiting list is insane anyway...)

    Seriously my original was worn to hell so I bought a replacement one, and it's almost as bad. I'm not even looking for one to play smash, just one that's decent enough to enjoy all my old games like mario 64 and quest64.
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    You ever heard of the Hori Pad Mini? It's N64 controller that's similar to a Gamecube controller with pretty much the exact joystick as the Gamecube's. It's pretty expensive compared to other N64 constrollers ranging from under $100 or above. I would recommend it if it's not too expensive for your taste. Or you buy a N64 Hori Pad Mini joystick on Ebay for a decent price if you cab find it like that and put it into your normal N64 controller.
    link2702
    link2702
    i've heard of em, but I was kinda hoping there was a version out there that was closer to the original N64 stick. the GCN style ones Just don't feel right to me. Like when I played my OoT/master quest disc years ago for preordering ww, GCN just didn't feel right for an n64 game to me. for GCN games yeah, of course it's perfect, but there's a certain "feel" to N64 style sticks that make a GCN one just not comfortable for me.

    But I guess at this point it's gotta be better than what I've got. My original is beyond repair, and this amazon replacement is garbage....
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    Well, I don't know what else to say. I would check out the N64 Sub-Reddit and ask there. There should be plenty of people there that can answer your question of finding the right joystick replacement.
    3 freaking games in a row and Nintendo still refuses to buff/fix ganondorf. In ultimate they've had tons of opportunities to already.

    I think it's safe to say that sadly....Ganondorf will never be a viable character in smash. Nintendo doesn't want him to be.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    Pretty sure it’s just a matter of you not being that good with him
    link2702
    link2702
    pretty big words from someone who's never seen me play as him.

    Also..yes clearly the entire community who has ranked him either dead last, or near dead last, on the tier lists in all 3 games over the years, yes CLEARLY they ALL just don't know how to use him. CLEARLY there's some "hidden potential" not discovered with ganondorf by top players over the last 10+ years spanning 3 games that is just there waiting to be unlocked.


    I'll let you think for a bit now on how idiotic that comment of yours earlier was.
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    You can play a good Ganon via severely large amounts of practice, but even then he's not exactly the most viable for tournaments. Far too slow, very little range, lots of end lag on most of his good moves, etc. Overall he's not the best, but at least you can dominate smash online.
    ever have something silly on the back of your mind that bugs you cuz you don't know where it came from?

    In my case it's all those "80s" inspired games on steam that have the neon/vector artwork with the sunset and palm trees in the backgrounds. Like....we all see that and we just "know" it's distinctively "80s." But.....like what was the original "source"? What was the piece of art/advertisement that first had that type of sunset/background, that instantly made it an icon of the 80s?

    https://image.shutterstock.com/image-vector/retro-futuristic-abstract-background-made-600w-713305225.jpg for reference, this is the type of thing I'm talking about.
    ANd smash's **** online screws me over again. I do not play item players and this asshole troll inkling decided to put FS meter's on. I d/c'd promptly but I get the ban for it.

    Why are this assholes becoming so common on elite smash lately, and more importantly why is the game ignoring my ruleset entirely?
    S
    StoicPhantom
    I'd say it's because the ranking system naturally props up those who are laggy or deal in abusive online strategies. They can cheese enough people who probably aren't too keen on a rematch. It's nearly impossible to play in the upper levels now.
    So I only just now learned of Pokemon Journeys, where apparently now that Ash finally met his lifelong goal in the last series(and only took him... over 2 decades to do...and never aging a bit), now decides his new goal is to "just travel the world"

    Well...at least this goal doesn't have a deadline....

    Not that I'd watch pokemon again anyway, after the orange league I just didn't care for the show anymore anyway.
    why is it a lot of bad-mediocre games actually have Decent-good soundtracks?

    Listen to the SMW theme remixes in Mario is missing for the snes, especially san francisco and Australia.

    And the CD-zelda games.

    ....Why? Mario is missing especially. About the only reason I ever went back to playing that game as a kid was for the soundtrack of each city.

    ...Well and the pixel art "photos" of each landmark luigi visited. Those were actually nice to look at too.
    Really wish a class action lawsuit could be filed against Nintendo for their ****ty online service much like one was for their terrible joycon designs. Yeah it probably wouldn't go anywhere, but the more bad publicity they get for it, the better.
    things that frustrate me to no end in ultimate;

    Why the hell do I GET punished for immediately D/Cing on people who have items/smashballs on at the start of the match? It's not the ruleset preference I have set, I'm not wasting my time with that. IF people have items off/on in their rulesets, that should be something that it ALWAYS finds another player with the setting on for. This is why I'd rather have for glory and for fun modes back, at least with those there was no randomness about which ruleset you would get.

    Why does it take so freaking long for my character's costume to change on the select screen? surely by now they should have figured out what causes this long delay that no other smash ever had to deal with.

    WHY HAVE THEY STILL NOT BUFFED MAC OR GANONDORF?!?!


    /rant
    Zachmac
    Zachmac
    Punishing D/Cing is a way to keep people from cheating the system by DCing every time you lose. People with poor connections often complain about that, but if you played Pokemon Black/White online as frequently as I did back in the day you'd know why it's a necessary evil.

    The issue is entirely with the match-making system. The devs wanted people to have more control over what rulesets they played but, but unfortunately in doing so they accidentally gave people less control. I agree with you here - they would have been better off building off of For Glory / For Fun modes instead of giving us the weird, experimental mess we have for an ranked online mode right now.
    is it just me or is DK's cargo throw harder to mash out of in ultimate than in any other smash? I can mash out of buries pretty reliably, and even some grabs when folks decided to pummel to much at low damage, and I remember being able to reliably mash out of the cargo in 4 and brawl whenever a DK tried to use it as a walk off KO. But I can't for the life of me mash out of DK's cargo throw in ultimate. And as a ganondorf main, it pretty much means death for me should he grab me at 50+ damage.

    Seriously can anyone out there verify this? or is my mind just playing tricks on me?
    I feel like an idiot. I got suckered into the whole "Happy hour Sling TV" promo. All because I wanted to watch TCM.

    I find out only after signing up "Oh you have to actually have the real sling blue + the movies package to get these 5 channels including TCM" when it's the only one i really wanted.

    Granted I don't have to pay for it still, from 5pm till midnight I still get the 'base package" of sling blue "free", but it's also got nothing else I really care for. I don't watch movies much at all anymore unless they're really old ones from like the 60s or older. Even then I don't watch much, but that's mostly cuz there's no way to access these films by themselves. If TCM just created their own streaming service that allowed me to just get those classic movies, i'd sub to it.
    It really bugs me when I run into players I know are actual tournament players by their name tag...and they use ****ty rulesets just to troll.

    Seriously some of us get excited when we see folks online that we know are actually tournament level players, only to be massively let down when they decide to choose 2:30 time matches as their ruleset, and/or put items on.

    If I wanted **** like that I’d go to arenas and look for it.

    If you’re gonna do that, least go incognito or something under a different name...
    anyone here know anything about C++ ? I'm desperate for help right now. I'm completely lost on my homework, I can't use the Lab at my school because its hours clash with my work hours, and the teacher himself isn't really any help.
    taking programming was the biggest mistake I could have made.....

    Teacher doesn't care and doesn't offer any real help when you're confused, either saying "go back and read the chapter" or "we covered it in class", Other students are just as lost as I am, the few who "get it" don't "have time to help anyone else"


    I'm now failing both my college algebra, and my beginning programming. Not exactly something I like seeing when I blazed through History, English comp 1 and 2, and Psychology all with 90+%...
    I see the spam bots are once again at it.


    Can smashboards not purge these things ?
    Strong Badam
    Strong Badam
    Dealing with them is manual endeavor by our volunteer staff. If you'd like to help out, hit the Report button on either the spam content itself or the account profiles to alert us. Usually they are dealt with rather quickly, though.
    link2702
    link2702
    I realize it all has to be done manually I Just feel like the site could have found a solution to greatly minimize them by now. It's been yeaaaaars since I joined so I don't know how different the process is now, but I know lots of other sites have that "captcha"(think that's what it is called) image system that does a decent job of weeding out bots. Some like ign have you redo them each time you need to relogin.

    I don't know if it's possible to integrate that into smashboards since IDK what software/company the site really uses(so they might not even offer it), but IMO it'd maybe be something worth investing in by the site's main staff some day....
    Strong Badam
    Strong Badam
    Thank you for that feedback. We do have a Captcha verification on registration in addition to Q&A human verification (where we ask the registrant questions about Super Smash Bros.). Even after this, we have IP, e-mail, and username searches that flag potential spam accounts and require manual approval from an administrator before they can post; many of them are rejected. Lastly, when posting any sort of content (post, thread, status update, profile comment), if any "spam phrase" is used in the content then the content gets flagged and needs manual approval. A significant majority of spam attempts are thwarted before a regular user would ever see them, and this percentage was increased rather recently as well. Unfortunately, a huge number of attempts at spamming our website take place every single day. It is my belief that spam accounts which successfully pass through all of these steps to post their spam are made by real humans who are being paid to do so.
    Hopefully this explanation and the transparency on why you might see quite a bit of spam is helpful for you!
    I often wonder why people online think they’ve made some major accomplishment when beating a character like ganondorf or little mac with someone like Palutena, Pikachu, greninja, joker etc.

    Like... you realize you went against some of the worst characters in the game right? If you’re opponent so much as got a stock off you with one of these characters that actually makes you look pretty bad. And if you even lose a match that makes it worse.
    You want to play mafia? We’re looking for a replacement, but only sign up if you can really commit to playing
    Just got screwed by Nintendo’s ****ty service again, twice it boots me off against a laggy opponent and I’m the one getting banned for it :/. Meanwhile my connection works just fine with no issues, yet I’m getting punished cuz my opponent has a garbage connection.
    Is it really that much to ask to have ganon be a decent character just once? 3 games in a row he’s been trash.
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    Wigglerman
    Wigglerman
    Heavyweight syndrome. Most fighting games (Including Smash) don't often let heavies be good. Heavies/grappler struggle is always real. Bowser has seemed to be the minor exception but even then he isn't good enough to be considered among the best in the game, though the best heavy for sure.
    link2702
    link2702
    So change him up? He doesn’t necessarily need to play like this slow hard hitting falcon knockoff anymore when all it does is hold him back.

    The core issue has more to do with his current moveset. Not only does it not truly fit him, but it’s clear it’s what is causing him to always be either the, or one of the worst characters in the games. So at this point give him something drastically different that actually feels like ganondorf. Maybe he ends up worse, but there’s also a very strong likelihood he ends up way better.

    The fact that Hyrule Warriors created a more accurate version of ganondorf than smash Bros has is kinda sad.

    Give him a trident(yes that’s technically his beast form ganons weapon but still), give him an energy ball projectile, make him use more of his dark magic that he’s shown to be capable of in the Zelda series, especially for his recovery.
    I’m just sick of how sakurai refuses to see that ganondorfs current moveset and core design is massively flawed.
    Anyone here who has a roku device and likes classic films/tv (specifically around 1930s-1970s) have any recommended channels? The ones I’m finding all have the same content and it’s usually the b-rated films and in poor quality, not to mention really limited.

    I wouldn’t even mind something that requires a subscription (though free is definitely better). I was hoping maybe turner classic movies would be on it but it’s not...

    EDIT: guess I should of googled it. I figured it would be under Turner Classic Movies when I searched my roku, turns out if I did tcm id find it. Problem is it seems i need cable to use...the whole point of getting a roku was for me to get rid of cable -_-
    To say i'm pissed right now would be an understatement. Nintendo's ****ty online service just banned me because my opponent D/C'd in the lobby.
    So...just wondering is there no way for smashboards to kill off the spam/adbots? Every night it’s the same.

    Idk how the system is now for joining up since I joined years ago, but does the site not have one of those “captcha” systems or w/e yet that forces you to select certain images to prove you’re a real person and not a bot? Or are those not actually that effective? I’m actually genuinely curious.
    For those who watch death battle, the newest video is up and damn it’s good.

    I won’t spoil it but all I’ll say is the comment at the end by the winner was the most disrespectful thing in history. Nothing will top that.
    RealPokeFan11
    RealPokeFan11
    I kind of lost interest after they royally screwed over Ben Tennyson, but Ganon vs Dracula sounds interesting.
    Spam is such a weird food...

    Like, 99% of the time just thinking about eating it makes you sick. But then there’s that 1% where you crave it like a crack addict suffering from withdrawal symptoms.
    D
    I love Super Mario RPG so much and I replayed some of it today. I was hoping some of the others in the Geno thread would as well. Have you started replaying it yet?
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    Deleted member
    Then you don't have to interfere. Simple as that

    Edit: the poster deleted his/her comment
    link2702
    link2702
    Nah actually I deleted it. I don’t bother with trolls.
    D
    Deleted member
    Oh, cool! I didn't know you could do that. Thanks
    I'm not staying on swf for long. No chance I'd ever play brawl competitive again. Just got on here to see if you got my youtube message. Head on skype or add me on steam if you wanna talk some more. I'll be leaving for Australia the 31st, so you have until then to catch up a bit lol.
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