phish-it
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oh of course it does not remedy his specific problems, i just think there are a variety of very cheezy kill setups that luigi could do with shine, more than most characters.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
It'd be a really, really bad choice when you could shine fair/nair/uair/side-b instead.
Purpletuce
Smash Lord
I think having a shine on any character would buff them quite a bit. . . it would allow most characters to shine after an aerial on shield, which makes them not need to worry about spacing in many instances, it protects characters from combos that don't quite work, or things like CG, ex: Yoshi with shine would probably see a drop in his vulnerability to CGs. Even if characters don't have the mechanics to do huge combos out of it, every character can probably get more than just the shine, with either Fox or Falco's shine. Ex: Yoshi shines but can't follow up, and can only throw an egg. With either shine he will get about 20% for a move that comes out in frame, so it becomes a threat of racking damage + gaining position, instead of starting a combo. Other instances would be like DK, who could probably get shine neutral B with fox shine, and not start a combo, but maybe get a finisher/damage/poke. Almost every character with either shine would have some sort of option on most characters that would become a super safe threat.
If any character gained a shine, either fox's or falco's they would benefit from it defensively alone by a huge margin. Yoshi would actually probably do really well, if you consider that his N-air comes out in 3 frames and goes +1 on shield, DJC Nair + shine would be unstoppable shield pressure, he wouldn't be CGed as hard, he could attack shields for free -> shield pressure and all that would be enough to make Yoshi really good, then add on shine combos and Yoshi would become a hugely viable character. It would probably play out like spacies, where nobody ever wants to shield because how disadvantageous it is, and Yoshi not jumping OoS isn't such a big deal.
Similar cases can probably be made for every character.
Shine is a good move for anyone, although some characters don't have the mechanics to use it to its full potential, that just means that they would only become really good, one of the strongest characters in the game. They might not become so overwhelmingly overpowered that the game is focused around countering them or playing them.
If any character gained a shine, either fox's or falco's they would benefit from it defensively alone by a huge margin. Yoshi would actually probably do really well, if you consider that his N-air comes out in 3 frames and goes +1 on shield, DJC Nair + shine would be unstoppable shield pressure, he wouldn't be CGed as hard, he could attack shields for free -> shield pressure and all that would be enough to make Yoshi really good, then add on shine combos and Yoshi would become a hugely viable character. It would probably play out like spacies, where nobody ever wants to shield because how disadvantageous it is, and Yoshi not jumping OoS isn't such a big deal.
Similar cases can probably be made for every character.
Shine is a good move for anyone, although some characters don't have the mechanics to use it to its full potential, that just means that they would only become really good, one of the strongest characters in the game. They might not become so overwhelmingly overpowered that the game is focused around countering them or playing them.
E-102 Gamma
Smash Journeyman
Archangel
Smash Hero
I think we should get off spaceballs for a bit. Lets start hypotheticals about other broken moves?
Peach's Dsmash? Floatcanceling? Puff's Rest? sheik's Dthrows?
Peach's Dsmash? Floatcanceling? Puff's Rest? sheik's Dthrows?
phish-it
Smash Champion
It wouldn't be unstoppable because the moves would stale thus having less shield stun.
DrinkingFood
Smash Hero
What if puff had falco's lasers
john!
Smash Hero
what if anyone had puff's anything
Archangel
Smash Hero
She'd be SS-tier.
Someone could have Puff's Dtilt or Dair and still suck......so...
Lets try to focus on 1 at a time though for lolz....so I'm going to go with....Puff's Rest.
Who gains? who loses?
Personally I say Pichu. And it has a damaging lighting attack after that wakes him up so he doesn't sleep more than half a second....rigged right?
Gea
Smash Master
Sheik's dthrow on Falco.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Captain Falcon with Peach's dash attack.
iRobinhoood
Smash Lord
Samus with Peach's usmash.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I think Mario with Marth's grab range is a monster.
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Falco with Falco's moveset is pretty damn good.
Wake
Smash Master
I want Ganon to be able to float and FC.
iRobinhoood
Smash Lord
Ice Climbers with Marth grab range.
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You lost me.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
Peach's usmash is probably more usable than samus's.
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It's definitely more useful than Samus's....but I don't see why you would go for an even better one, like Sheik/Fox. It was really random, hence my confusion.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I dunno why you wouldn't give her a proper grab.
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What? But her grab sucking is what makes her unique!!!
Archangel
Smash Hero
I just got an image of Ganon FC Bair'ing....oh dear...
SS-tier for sure with wobbling legalized.
Yoshi with samus's Tether, Pikachu's Up-B, Falco's lasers, and Marth's range on all of his attacks.
cannedbread
Smash Lord
falco climbers
Archangel
Smash Hero
What if Marth and Roy came attached together like IC's? Or Fox/Falco? Or Mario/Doc or Luigi O_O.
Bones0
Smash Legend
Characters being linked together is too broken to be interesting.
I'd rather flesh out my instant-transformation idea.
Marth fthrow on Jiggs, react to DI in, transform and reverse Blazer for 0% kill.
Mario fair spike, opponent tech rolls behind him, transform, misfire KO.
I'd rather flesh out my instant-transformation idea.
Roy dtilt, transform, Marth tipper.
Marth fthrow on Jiggs, react to DI in, transform and reverse Blazer for 0% kill.
Mario fair spike, opponent tech rolls behind him, transform, misfire KO.
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Purpletuce
Smash Lord
This thread is so silly but so fun. Yoshi eggs turn into more yoshis. I just want yoshi everywhere, maybe form a gang. With cute little armbands...
Gea
Smash Master
Max?
Smash Champion
KrIsP!
Smash Champion
Falco can have rollout. we don't want it.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Shine > Rollout on Spacies would be sick
Coffeeblack
Smash Journeyman
Falcon stomp, rollout
iRobinhoood
Smash Lord
My thoughts on this thread recently.
Mahone
Smash Champion
why would puff with falco's lasers be ss tier?
i dont even think thatd be good
i dont even think thatd be good
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Эикельманн [РУС]
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you should see a good kirby use falco's special
you'd change your mind.
you'd change your mind.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
You're ********
choknater
Smash Obsessed
i think ness with ice climbers' side-B would be legit
Svetsunov
Smash Apprentice
Almost anyone with falco lasers would be significantly better.