Official FL Counterpick Poll!!

[petey_did_it]

ps1 to ps2 shows how much the pokemon industry has declined.

 

[exarch]

So it's not that any one character is broken there, it's that it's annoying to play on?
That's no reason to ban a stage :/

 

[Noa.]

The transformations hinder battle and don't give any true advantage.

The air transformation just destroys everyone's airgame because when you shorthop it's as high as if you used both of your jumps under normal gravity.

The electric ruins the stage because staying on the treadmills leads to no where so camping in the middle is promoted.

Ice completely messes up the traction and spacing for moves.

Ground is more or less fine as it is.

PS2 just deters from the actual fight, making the players wait until the transformation is over. That's why I think it should be banned.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

What's so wrong with Bridge of Eldin?

 

[Noa.]

Permanent walk offs make DDD a very broken character on that stage, along with a few other chaingrabbers.

Plus, the size of it makes it very easy to camp which isn't good.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Okay... But there's nothing whrong with Pictochat.

 

[Noa.]

The effects are random and have KO ability.

While better than most banned stages, t still is a little too random for most players to accept.

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

Okay... But there's nothing whrong with Pictochat.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xcojcb7ZMxc

Just in case you don't believe Draconoa.

 

[N3XUS]

OMG I have a new and improved hatred for pictochat...

 

[Masky]

oh man I voted only for banned stages, what now ****ers?

 

[Noa.]

As it stands, most people in Florida have voted for the counterpick stages. If we allow all stages with 50% approval and over into the counterpick list, we get this:

Delfino plaza
Frigate Orpheon
Battleship Halberd
Lylat
Castle Siege
Brinstar
Jungle Japes
Pokemon Stadium 1
Rainbow Cruise

Addtions to the list are in green. These stages were taken out:

Pirate Ship
PS2
Luigi's Mansion
Norfair

We lose four stages, gain two stages and move a stage from the neutral list to counterpick.

This is the counterpick for Genesis:

Lylat Cruise
Delfino Plaza
Castle Siege
Frigate Orpheon
Jungle Japes
Battleship Halberd
Rainbow Cruise
Brinstar
Pokemon Stadium 1
Yoshi's Island

The only difference would be Yoshi's being on their counterpick list instead of neutral.

We could wait for the last few remaining Floridians to vote or go with this stage list. Either way, I don't think that waiting would change the results.

 

[actionblackbird]

ohhh snap, lylat for counter pick

 

[N3XUS]

Yes lylat for CP! I'm so tired of having to go to that dumb stage on game 1, so it can tilt away from me as I recover. Who's idea was it to make it neutral in the first place?

 

[Noa.]

Well, the only thing that makes Lylat a counterpick is tilting, but I honestly believe that tilting doesn't affect recovering that much.

 

[actionblackbird]

port town need hypes >.>;

 

[AfroQT]

Jungle Japes should not be played on ...rofl.

Neither should rainbow cruise.

 

[Fizzi]

Jungle Japes should not be played on ...rofl.

Neither should rainbow cruise.

Both above stated stages are bad for snake

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

How is japes bad for snake?


like to see someone MM my snake there

GO!

 

[Poltergust]

Seibrik, there was a reason I counterpicked Jungle Japes against you in our tournament match since you banned Rainbow Cruise. XD

 

[The Sex Puma]

Yes lylat for CP! I'm so tired of having to go to that dumb stage on game 1, so it can tilt away from me as I recover. Who's idea was it to make it neutral in the first place?

This.... <_<

 

[Retroend]

man i hate castle siege. and why the hell is pirate ship taken out?

 

[actionblackbird]

Well, I am guessing that once the poll close, we will have a brand new set of counter picks before brawl gigs, Frames? Just wondering how all this is going to work out at the end.

PICTOCHAT IS BAD!!! I herd you can do infinite wall ***** there....

or so I herd...

 

[Loto]

Counterpicks...


lol.

 

[h1roshi]

at the end of the day its still brawl.

-misshiro

 

[actionblackbird]

lol...why is everyone want yoshi's story as a counter pick? (non pipes)

 

[OmniOstrich]

Jungle Japes should not be played on ...rofl.

Neither should rainbow cruise.

Japes and Rainbow Cruise give a very select few characters very easy CP victories, allowing them to be legal basically allows them really easy wins.

-Japes is obscene for Falco(bc of phantasm spikes, and camping) and ROB(bc of camping).
-Rainbow Cruise is easy wins for MK, G&W, and Kirby.

I think that Rainbow Cruise/Jungle Japes should be banned not because its really broken or unfair, but because MK/Falco on that stage is.

 

[Sensei Seibrik]

Fight a mk/falco, ban the stages, thats how CP systems work.

We ban stages that are broken overall for all the cast, not stages that are broken for 1-2 characters.

 

[CaliburChamp]

We need Norfair for fighting against Diddy!!!!!! 0_0

We need Pokemon Stadium 2 for fighting against Snake, Wario and MK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 0_0

 

[Noa.]

Rainbow Cruise counterpicks Diddy.

And I don't think anyone used PS2 to counterpick.

 

[Ruuku]

Yo where's Green Greens at?

 

[AfroQT]

Fight a mk/falco, ban the stages, thats how CP systems work.

We ban stages that are broken overall for all the cast, not stages that are broken for 1-2 characters.

Thats ********, half the stages are banned because of ONE character, like d3 that can walk characters off the stage. Why isnt bridge of elden allowed, no character besides D3 can INFINITELY walk people off stages regardless of percent.

The CP system shouldnt be about getting a free easy win, it should be able taking the fight to a stage that your character prefers. Thats why japes and RC should be banned.

With such a horrible counterpick system all your going to see is more people picking up metaknight to deal with possible counterpicks that shouldnt be allowed in the first place.

 

[Ruuku]

Wouldn't any jab lock character be able to lock to death on Bridge of Elden?

 

[Noa.]

Bridge of Eldin is also banned because it's very campy and defensive. The size of the stage promotes not approaching the opponent.

And standing near the edges and bthrowing is also pretty broken. Olimar easily gets grabs against most characters and his bthrow is plenty strong.

We ban most stages for a combination of reasons and not just one reason.

 

[actionblackbird]

Bridge of Eldin is also banned because it's very campy and defensive. The size of the stage promotes not approaching the opponent.

And standing near the edges and bthrowing is also pretty broken. Olimar easily gets grabs against most characters and his bthrow is plenty strong.

We ban most stages for a combination of reasons and not just one reason.

doint forget king D and his broken chain grabs.

 

[ghaudephaede010]

Fight a mk/falco, ban the stages, thats how CP systems work.

We ban stages that are broken overall for all the cast, not stages that are broken for 1-2 characters.

I agree. But hey, I think Luigi's Mansion is not broken enough to be removed from the counterpick list. It totally fits into what you are saying there.

Sorry Seibrik, I probably just destroy'd your cred by going with you on this one.

 

[mohongwort]

man i hate castle siege. and why the hell is pirate ship taken out?

pirate ship would be a good stage nd probolly not banned if it wasnt for the bombs and the thing that pushes you of the stage

 

[mohongwort]

man i hate castle siege. and why the hell is pirate ship taken out?

pirate ship would be a good stage nd probolly not banned if it wasnt for the bombs and the thing that pushes you offthe stage

 

[VSC.D-Torr]

LOL @ Double post

Pirate Ship is dumb

 

[actionblackbird]

still, we need 25 votes for port town.

 

[Blatt Blvd]

Who still plays brawl?
*Votes to intentionally skew results*

Mwuahahaha

lol at this