bubba I see you posting in all these important threads and you just seems as though you aren't knowledgeable at all...
you put fox in C tier, really? oh and jiggly over ganon LOL good one
I also like your placement of icies at number 1, did you download the data at all?
Even not looking at the sheer data, who else other than Vinnie and ESAM show a domincance with the character? Almost every other top user of the character isn't as good as those two and the second you leave the top 5 and maybe about 3 more IC mains there's dropped grabs non-stop
I don't want to criticize the knowledge of others who I haven't seen post other things, unlike bubba (who in the previous tier list thread, v6 now closed) was just completely wrong about various things and seemed ignorant to me.
I like how you just lurk threads, never make relevant to thread posts and just wait for someone to post something you might not agree with and then follow up with your own criticism. You actually for the majority just comment on other comments, too scared to make your owns posts, or just worried that you're wrong about everything?
You're right, I come into this thread come read the last few pages and unlike you don't waste my life away scrolling through pages and pages looking for EVERY comment that talks about ICs and then follow by criticising everyone, also please link me to the "LOT of people" who claim ICs are 1. No really, I'm curious to see how many in this thread actually did say IC 1, because I don't have the time to wade through pages right now, and you seem to have no life so you can do it for me right?
but what I read was
So full of
because my trolling failed, so I'll try to get Luxord mad by calling him butt hurt.
I sense some more poor trolling, Ryker have you ever actually gotten anyone angry? And you try SO hard for it too. It seems like your comments are more laughable than annoying tbh, fail harder please?
Oh and if you were wondering why I even "targeted" bubbaking, you can see by his "conversation" with Twinkie on this/last page that he clearly ignores facts and he ignores people who are WAY more informed than he is.
@Ryker
you're right, my response was completely full of anger I'm sure, if you could be so kind identify where I wrote anything along the lines of anger? First part = me stating opinion, second = you being wrong which you always are, third = me stating I just go into the thread
inb4 confused why you think you succeed at anything
Holy cow, take a chill pill, man! I sense extreme salt in the air. I almost always use the disclaimer phrases "IMO...," "This is my opinion...," or some variation of those two. You can even see it in my post above. It's fine to put people on ignore lists and all, but can we at least maintain civility in how we discuss things on these forums. Otherwise, we discourage people from halting the "lurking" you speak of to actually post things in fear of being called out and put to shame. I always admit that my opinion is probably not the best, but I still like to voice my thoughts.
To address your points:
Yes, I think Fox is high tier worthy so I placed him in high tier. I'm sure you meant "Ganon over Jiggly" but the point I was making is that Ganon should not be last on the tier list. About the ICs, someone (I believe it was either Nick Riddle or FreESAM) said to a BBR member (CJ, I believe) that the ICs were probably the best char on paper and in my head, I agreed with this sentiment and reflected it in my
opinion of a MK-free tier list. Look at their MU spread. They destroy, beat, or go even with everyone in top tier, and aside from three random high/BL MUs that they barely lose, they have
no disadvantageous MUs. Their greatest check is MK and with MK gone,
I think they'd reign supreme. Is there something wrong with this logic? You cited results saying that Vinnie and ESAM are the only people showing great things with the ICs, but iirc, results only factored in about 12% of a char's placing on this tier list. The MU spread played a much bigger part in determining tier positions and the ICs have the best MU spread in the game after MK.
Oh, and my "'conversation' with Twinkie"? Well, this is all that was said:
Regardless, your original point was already foiled, the MK banned metagame is not a larger than the MK legal metagame.
But the MK banned tourneys have more money to their names as of now.
I wouldn't really go so far as to say I "clearly ignored facts and ignored people people who are WAY more informed than I am." Yes, he probably is more informed than me, but I
did look at the data (which you accused me of not looking at) and I consistently check John12346's winnings charts (we're college-mates, after all) and I observed all the money that MK-banned and MK-legal tourneys had. Of course, as was pointed out to me, I had not taken note of the MK-legal tourneys done before Apex.
Edit: tl;dr - Try to be nice about how you disagree with people. All I do is voice my opinions and I'll gladly accept the fact that I'm wrong.....if indeed I am.
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