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beating GnW is easy, just don't get hit
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Not really.Theyre not really COMPLETELY different. Theyre definitely connected.
What if he is consistent but he messed up because he was nervous? He screwed up.playing safe would have told the ddd player to just do back throw as opposed to going for a CG hes not completely consistent at.
ur dumb.beating GnW is easy, just don't get hit
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That's exactly what D3 is. A character with many strengths but a few weaknesses holding him back from top tier. And you think D3 is a mid tier and Game and Watch isn't? People have been learning the matchup for game and watch to go down. D3 had the same thing too. They've both imo have been lowering down at the same rate and they have very similar metagames and historys..... -____-
Well, anyway, I still think GW is decently good, and Vinnie has shown us he can do work. GW is no top tier character, and he has his problems, but hes still overall what I would consider slightly above average and imo should stay around where he currently is in high tier. If he moves at all, it should be due to the fact that other characters are going up/down, not anything about GW himself.
Could you not even slightly perceive the sarcasm?ur dumb.
You obv. haven't seen Doc King posting.Your posts still amaze me. My mind still can't get used to them.
I should take you out of ignore just so my brain can get used to this sort of nonsense.
Too good.beating GnW is easy, just don't get hit
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Then just do the safest throw option, or just don't mess up the simple chaingrabNot really.
Example: If DDD screws up the chain grab against Diddy, he'll take a banana to the face. This has nothing to do with playing safe at all.
thisplaying safe would have told the ddd player to just do back throw as opposed to going for a CG hes not completely consistent at.
what if the diddy's messed up because he's nervous? He screwed up.What if he is consistent but he messed up because he was nervous? He screwed up.
Or not playing safely.If you mess up due to nerves, you are _by definition_ not consistent.
When doesn't he??Than he screwed up like I said. You Jebus are contradicting yourself.
Then obviously you were playing safe enough while staying aggressive, hence not being punishedBut you can play aggressive, not screw up and get away with it. That's not to say your playing safe since one bad read can cost you
Or if he wasn't playing safely by being defensiveIf you mess up playing defensively, you're still likely to get punished. I dont see where youre going with that.
Don't see how you can get killed by any move playing safely or perfectly defensively.I don't see how you can get killed by any other move other than F-air by playing defensively.
GET EMThis is why nobody likes you and everybody wants you to stop posting.
No, it was. Shut up.They are somewhat related but not to the point where what I said is redundant
No u.ur dumb.
You're like one of the dumbest people I've seen on smashboards. Please stop posting.
You obviously don't know who you just quoted LOLCould you not even slightly perceive the sarcasm?
Don't worry, like always he will try to make some round-about way on how this makes him right. When it doesn't.Lol Jebus says stuff then realizes he isn't making sense, and then quickly changed the subject.
I read this website like a magazine, and don't particularly pay attention to who is the writer............DAMN IT NOT THIS THREAD TOO
You obv. haven't seen Doc King posting.
You obviously don't know who you just quoted LOL
It should be such a rare occurrence that there is NO feasible reason to attempt to use it as evidence in any discussion. Dedede chaingrab(at the very least vs diddy) has absolutely no reason to fail. It is extremely easy. And any competitive level of gameplay will not mess it up enough to use it as an argument let alone mess it up at all.its called pressure
Other than that, some people do mess up time to time, even on the basics. Not everyone plays perfectly all the time..
also you saying that DDD's don't dash shield grab their CGs?
nah. D3's a character with tons of weaknesses, but a few rediculous strengths that outweigh the rest of the crappiness and it lands him near the bottom of high tier.ur dumb.
That's exactly what D3 is. A character with many strengths but a few weaknesses holding him back from top tier. And you think D3 is a mid tier and Game and Watch isn't? People have been learning the matchup for game and watch to go down. D3 had the same thing too. They've both imo have been lowering down at the same rate and they have very similar metagames and historys.
You're like one of the dumbest people I've seen on smashboards. Please stop posting.
I read the whole conversation. Ik exactly what he's talking about. I'm not picking on jebus i just pointed out that d3 chaingrab just doesn't get messed up...and was responding to ussi's comment...like...come on now?kuro. stop, you came in halfway into the middle of a conversation, and are going on about something that wasnt even part of what the original topic was about.
Just because 2 characters are in a similar boat doesnt mean they have the same fate. You are correct in the fact that D3 also has multiple strengths and weaknesses much like GW, but D3's problem is that his weaknesses are slightly more prominent and harder to work around. Imo, D3 is THE top of mid tier, yes, but I wouldnt mind him being bottom of high, its basically the same position. So if you think im dumb for thinking him top of mid while you believe bottom of high, then youre saying im dumb for basically thinking near exactly like you.ur dumb.
That's exactly what D3 is. A character with many strengths but a few weaknesses holding him back from top tier. And you think D3 is a mid tier and Game and Watch isn't? People have been learning the matchup for game and watch to go down. D3 had the same thing too. They've both imo have been lowering down at the same rate and they have very similar metagames and historys.
You're like one of the dumbest people I've seen on smashboards. Please stop posting.
http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13738211&postcount=5558Lol Jebus says stuff then realizes he isn't making sense, and then quickly changed the subject.
I was pretty sure it was sarcasm. I hope it was.Could you not even slightly perceive the sarcasm?
U seriously think im dumber than Jebus.DAMN IT NOT THIS THREAD TOO
You obv. haven't seen Doc King posting.
Too good.
Then just do the safest throw option, or just don't mess up the simple chaingrab
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what if the diddy's messed up because he's nervous? He screwed up.
Or not playing safely.
When doesn't he??
Then obviously you were playing safe enough while staying aggressive, hence not being punished
Or if he wasn't playing safely by being defensive
Don't see how you can get killed by any move playing safely or perfectly defensively.
GET EM
No, it was. Shut up.
No u.
Oh and...
No u are.
You obviously don't know who you just quoted LOL
Don't worry, like always he will try to make some round-about way on how this makes him right. When it doesn't.
to be honest, chaingrabbin Pit isn't hard at all.How could anyone mess up the ddd cg...? Almost everyone can cg with him regardless of usage except for weird characters like pit where you have to do the SCG.
Btw, just wanna say...that metagame thing is so good for dedede. Why have dedede's STILL not bothered with something SO SIMPLE. It nets so many more grabs and it's easy as heck...
At least in the videos since it's been out...i haven't seen it being used much if at all.
I dash shield my chaingrabs 24/7.its called pressure
Other than that, some people do mess up time to time, even on the basics. Not everyone plays perfectly all the time..
also you saying that DDD's don't dash shield grab their CGs?
He doesn't have a ton of weaknesses, he just has a couple of major ones like huge hurtbox and being then second slowest character in the game (Only being faster than Ike). He has many strengths though like good combos, amazing survivalbility, good range, great edge guarding game, good spot dodge, good pivot grab, great ranged recovery, and great cps.nah. D3's a character with tons of weaknesses, but a few rediculous strengths that outweigh the rest of the crappiness and it lands him near the bottom of high tier.
Well you just changed you're bs opinion and actually came up with an opinion that actually makes sense now.Just because 2 characters are in a similar boat doesnt mean they have the same fate. You are correct in the fact that D3 also has multiple strengths and weaknesses much like GW, but D3's problem is that his weaknesses are slightly more prominent and harder to work around. Imo, D3 is THE top of mid tier, yes, but I wouldnt mind him being bottom of high, its basically the same position. So if you think im dumb for thinking him top of mid while you believe bottom of high, then youre saying im dumb for basically thinking near exactly like you.
Yeah even Ganon is faster than DDD. His Uair is too fast for DDD.being then second slowest character in the game (Only being faster than Ike).
I didn't say he was hard. He's easy. But you do have to stray from normal grabbing. I was saying someone who hardly if ever touches dedede can only mess up a few of those really specific timing cg like pit and to a lesser extent marth.I was pretty sure it was sarcasm. I hope it was.
U seriously think im dumber than Jebus.
The kind of crap talk you're giving, I'm gonna say ur the dumbest one on here. Please do smashboards a great favor and get out!
to be honest, chaingrabbin Pit isn't hard at all.
I dash shield my chaingrabs 24/7.
He doesn't have a ton of weaknesses, he just has a couple of major ones like huge hurtbox and being then second slowest character in the game (Only being faster than Ike). He has many strengths though like good combos, amazing survivalbility, good range, great edge guarding game, good spot dodge, good pivot grab, great ranged recovery, and great cps.
Well you just changed you're bs opinion and actually came up with an opinion that actually makes sense now.
So I take it back now.
Also Toon Link.I was saying someone who hardly if ever touches dedede can only mess up a few of those really specific timing cg like pit and to a lesser extent marth.
Dude, stop ranking people on smashboards. That's like the most sick in the mind thing anyone can do.Doc King, you are in fact in the same tier as Jebus.
Maybe a spot above him, but the same tier.
That's true.I didn't say he was hard. He's easy. But you do have to stray from normal grabbing. I was saying someone who hardly if ever touches dedede can only mess up a few of those really specific timing cg like pit and to a lesser extent marth.