Official BBR Tier List v6

[da K.I.D.]

You dont know that.

 

[Z'zgashi]

I guess its possible, but Ive never seen or heard anything about him ever even touching him. Pretty sure the second he selected him the first time he ever played Yoshi, he realized that you cant jump out of shield or anything that's basic to every other character in the game and then just said 'screw it' and never played him again.

 

[Tesh]

He went Lucario and 3-1'd Holy's ROB in Grand Finals.

I thought it was 3-0.

In any case, Holy got robbed that final game.

 

[NickRiddle]

I thought it was 3-0.

In any case, Holy got ROBbed that final game.

Oh you.

 

[1PokeMastr]

Ally DID win at our Tourney yesterday with Lucario, he just picks up a character each Tourney to Surprise us.

 

[AllyKnight]

I had to switch to Falco for Infinite (1st game was last hit but weak lucario is weak -.-)

Used ROB for Tinman, rest was Lucario.

 

[infiniteV115]

I was surprised that you didn't tech that last bair
And I really need to stop sucking against your Falco

 

[Steam]

and in one tourney ally accomplishes more than I ever will with lucario.

sad day.

 

[-LzR-]

I feel you bro.

 

[tekkie]

canada's best brawl player by a huge margin winning a canadian brawl tournament isn't that surprising regardless of character choice

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Fox and Wolf should be above G&W. Everyone in E tier should move up to D and there shouldn't really be an H tier.

 

[Ishiey]

I agree with everyone in E tier moving up actually... weird. And Ike moving up a tier as well. As for G&W, idk... he's a lot better in practice than on paper where you can't bait people into smashes for kills at 90%, but I can see the three characters being really close someday.

EDIT: Whoops, I meant D moving to C lol. Phew

 

[SaveMeJebus]

He would be better if there was no timer. The problem with G&W is that he can't force an approach. Characters with projectiles can just camp him until they get the lead and force him to make mistakes. He also has very few reliable kill moves

 

[-LzR-]

Except he has the bucket and the bacon. Never underestimate those two, the most awesome moves in the game.

 

[John12346]

Well, you could try to be saucy and purposely fill GaW's bucket so you can proceed to camp him, but that is BEYOND risky...

It's also worth mentioning that GaW lags really damn hard when he gets the first or second notch of his bucket filled... you can hit him with a lot of different heavy hitting attacks if you're close enough to do it. He doesn't get this lag when he gets his bucket completely filled, but w/e.

It's actually a legit tactic to bait out the bucket on kill percents, then fill him up so he lags long enough for you to pull out your finishing move.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Bacon is horrible and will never force an approach. Also, if G&W fills up his bucket, he loses his bucket break.

 

[Life]

Waiting for Ally to win a tournament on random

 

[Xubble]

You can bait an approach with Bacon if your opponent is the "PUNISH ALL THE THINGS!!" kind of person. You have to be JUST out of punishment range.

Bacon mindgames, son.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

You can bait an approach with Bacon if your opponent is the "PUNISH ALL THE THINGS!!" kind of person. You have to be JUST out of punishment range.

Bacon mindgames, son.

If you fall for that, then you're not playing the match up correctly

 

[da K.I.D.]

Well, you could try to be saucy and purposely fill GaW's bucket so you can proceed to camp him, but that is BEYOND risky...

Im compelled to disagree here... but I play fox...

He would be better if there was no timer. The problem with G&W is that he can't force an approach. Characters with projectiles can just camp him until they get the lead and force him to make mistakes. He also has very few reliable kill moves

1. All game and watch has is kill moves. and theyre generally all safe most of the time.
2.

Bacon is horrible and will never force an approach. Also, if G&W fills up his bucket, he loses his bucket break.

that doesnt change the fact that the bucket disuades people from projectile camping him .

 

[SaveMeJebus]

G&W may have kill moves, but most of them are not reliable and require the opponent to approach. Also, bucket doesn't really help since it only works three times, is a bad option at higher percents and it doesn't work against certain characters.

 

[Ripple]

G&W's bucket should fill with the blood of his enemies.

 

[Laem]

Baconator is pretty good when the opponent is on the ledge.

 

[Ishiey]

What Ripple said. Also, idk about everyone else, but in my experience a knowledgeable G&W will stay by the ledge so that they can runoff bucket when you shoot a projectile and remain safe from punishment. It's pretty effective.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

But what do they do when their bucket is full?

 

[Ussi]

Waiting for Ally to win a tournament on random

That'd be the day



Also this page is empty to me loooool that's the first time I've seen that, i got a chuckle

 

[Z'zgashi]

But what do they do when their bucket is full?

Dump it if they dont need it.

 

[Doc King]

Does anybody find it hilarious how Jebus thinks that game and watch has poor kill moves and Peach has good kill moves. It's like the other way around.

I find bacon an alright move. It can be good for comboing and spacing at times.

 

[Doc King]

Does anybody find it hilarious how Jebus thinks that game and watch has poor kill moves and Peach has good kill moves. It's like the other way around.

I find bacon an alright move. It can be good for comboing and spacing at times.

Edit: Thing glitched up again!

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Dump it if they dont need it.

This.

I gotta wonder: Is G-Dub safe when he dumps it...? Like, even if the opponent manages to shield or powershield the bucket dump, could he be in a potentially advantageous position afterward? Or in the event the opponent jumps over it...?

I know nothing about Game & Watch; I hope this is a legit question.

Smooth Criminal

 

[NickRiddle]

This.

I gotta wonder: Is G-Dub safe when he dumps it...? Like, even if the opponent manages to shield or powershield the bucket dump, could he be in a potentially advantageous position afterward? Or in the event the opponent jumps over it...?

I know nothing about Game & Watch; I hope this is a legit question.

Smooth Criminal

I don't have a direct answer to the question... but... if GW was unsafe if he used a weak bucket, wouldn't he just bucket after getting launched away/launching the opponent away?

 

[Chuee]

Does anybody find it hilarious how Jebus thinks that game and watch has poor kill moves and Peach has good kill moves. It's like the other way around.

I find bacon an alright move. It can be good for comboing and spacing at times.

Edit: Thing glitched up again!

Yes, I find it hilarious.
but I also find it hilarious how you think bacon can combo.

 

[da K.I.D.]

no such thing as a weak bucket. even with 3 fox lasers its still a solid kill move that probably about as strong as Samus' charge shot.

 

[NickRiddle]

no such thing as a weak bucket. even with 3 fox lasers its still a solid kill move that probably about as strong as Samus' charge shot.

A solid kill move at 140%.
This might help Peach kill.
GW... doesn't need another kill move for 140...

 

[Hylian]

no such thing as a weak bucket. even with 3 fox lasers its still a solid kill move that probably about as strong as Samus' charge shot.

Not really. 3 fox shots does 15% and doesn't kill till around 200%.

 

[Judo777]

Yes, I find it hilarious.
but I also find it hilarious how you think bacon can combo.

It DOES combo. If it has hitstun and is that slow it can combo. Lob a bacon, wait for it to hit, 9 hammer. It's a legit combo if your opponent is dumb enough to get hit by the bacon (which happens more than you think).

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Does anybody find it hilarious how Jebus thinks that game and watch has poor kill moves and Peach has good kill moves. It's like the other way around.

I find bacon an alright move. It can be good for comboing and spacing at times.

The difference between Peach's and G&W's kill moves is that Peach has a safe F-air on shield and a N-air that is great OOS while G&W has to find a way to make his opponents run into his kill moves.

 

[smashkng]

G&W also has Fair for killing, which isn't that hard to land because it has a big hitbox and has fast start-up. G&W's Fair also great OoS.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

That's really all he has that's reliable though.Almost all of Peach's moves will eventually kill. G&W has to force an approach to kill or kill them with F-air.

 

[smashkng]

Most of Peach's kill moves won't do that until very late unless she somehow can land her Usmash. Peach's Nair isn't even that strong and every Peach stale her Fair so much that it barely kills. At least if G&W gets the opponent into a bad position to land his smashes, it hurts much more than anything Peach has for killing besides a Bob-omb or a Stitch face turnip. They aren't fully reliable but they either have very little lag or the ending of the smashes are covered by hitboxes and their start-up are only just below the slow line so they'll eventually hit if the G&W is smart with them.