Official BBR Matchup Chart v1.0

[infiniteV115]

Oh be quiet Steam. You wouldn't stop posting if your IP was perma banned, even Hitler knows that.
And Hitler's a Marth main, so you know he's telling the truth. No delusion or prejudice coming out of the mouth of that man, no siree.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

from what I've heard about V2... lucario's matchups got all kinds of ****ed up...

Didn't you hear? Ganondorf vs Lucario is +4 now for Ganon.

 

[-LzR-]

I'm with Hitler. That video is soooo godlike.

 

[Cassio]

Well Pikachu is now the 5th best character or better, Lucario has no -2's while pikachu does. As SSE told us Lucario beats MK on Summit, so Lucario is now the best character in the game and therefore banned from competitive play. Sorry Lucarios.

 

[Nike.]

Uh oh, Doc King is viewing the thread

 

[da K.I.D.]

as long as nobody says anything about D3 we'll be fine.

 

[Doc King]

@ Doc King's stupid infinites, No one is going to fall for that stupid slope infinite once they know about it, The pivot infinite is near impossible to do and is only legit at higher percents and this is only going to make his already good match up better. It's not going to do anything for his horrible match ups

@The Japan argument, I don't think any American Diddys are going to want to run into Otori in bracket. Ally is now going to be harder to take out since he has so many characters now so I'm not too sure if it is going to be as easy for Brood this time around. If Kakara really practices using the Apex stage list, I don't think he will do that bad.

D3 doesn't have a horrible matchup anymore with mk gone. He has bad ones that are pretty hard, but nothing horrible for him (like Oli, Falco, and Climbers). Halberd and Frigate look pretty hard to avoid slope infinites since you can just chain grab people into them into pretty much like everywhere on the stage. Brinstar is debatable.

The infinite also doesn't matter on percents since D3's d throw has set knockback and the Wario infinite is pretty easy to do.

Somebody should do a Hitler finds out that D3 vs. Wario is -2 for Wario. I would laugh.

 

[Nike.]

But D3 is a bad character.

 

[Doc King]

But D3 is a bad character.

D3 is BAD

Spoiler

***

 

[Conviction]

as long as nobody says anything about D3 we'll be fine.

LOL

10dyings

 

[Espy Rose]

And Hitler's a Marth main, so you know he's telling the truth. No delusion or prejudice coming out of the mouth of that man, no siree.

Replace Hitler and Marth with any Pikachu main and Pikachu, and you'd have the same thing.

It was like watching an unstoppable object hitting an immoveable wall.

 

[Yink]

i liked the part where yink started crying

I like the part where I was even in that video lmao. It was a sensitive moment...I had to cry.

 

[Espy Rose]

The injustice brought me to tears.

 

[Steam]

I was laughing at hitler from afar, posting from multiple IPs

 

[C.J.]

The infinite also doesn't matter on percents since D3's d throw has set knockback and the Wario infinite is pretty easy to do.

Except percents do matter. Set knockback is accurate, however your frame (dis)advantage changes with the staleness of dthrow. Since dthrow needs to be kept fresh, you have to pummel. The determining factor in whether or not you can manage a dthrow after the pummel(s) is based on percent.

 

[Doc King]

Except percents do matter. Set knockback is accurate, however your frame (dis)advantage changes with the staleness of dthrow. Since dthrow needs to be kept fresh, you have to pummel. The determining factor in whether or not you can manage a dthrow after the pummel(s) is based on percent.

CJ, I did the most stale d throw and was still able to infinite Wario, so staleness doesn't matter for that infinite.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Im excited for V2. Yoshi shouldnt have anything worse than a -2 anymore outside of MK.

 

[Steam]

Im excited for V2. Yoshi shouldnt have anything worse than a -2 anymore outside of MK.

see? Lucario's matchups ARE ****ed up now!

lol.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Lucario is Yoshi's 3rd hardest MU imo (if you count MK, if not 2nd hardest) and is a solid -2. Imo, Falco is worse, also a -2.

 

[Steam]

Lucario vs. yoshi MM when/if you come to colorado? ;D

I actually kinda think it can be -2. lucario is too... versatile to really destroy a character like that

 

[Z'zgashi]

Lol sure, Im actually pretty confident in that MU, Ill mm you.

 

[hichez50]

Lucario vs. yoshi MM when/if you come to colorado? ;D

I actually kinda think it can be -2. lucario is too... versatile to really destroy a character like that

That statement doesn't make sense. How can a character be too versatile? I do agree that it could be -2 the match up just hasn't happened often enough vs. notable players for obvious reasons.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Polt plays Trela all the time, also Ive played multiple Lucarios (my #1 in state seconds him), and Yoshiken plays it almost every day, his wife even plays Lucario.

 

[Ussi]

Well Pikachu is now the 5th best character or better, Lucario has no -2's while pikachu does. As SSE told us Lucario beats MK on Summit, so Lucario is now the best character in the game and therefore banned from competitive play. Sorry Lucarios.

you can switch who you pick between Lucario and MK just like picking between Mario and Kirby in the beginning

 

[Sinister Slush]

Polt plays Trela all the time, also Ive played multiple Lucarios (my #1 in state seconds him), and Yoshiken plays it almost every day, his wife even plays Lucario.

Polt does not play trela all the time, I think you meant to type Espy.

Also Polt and I playing trela alot doesn't change the fact Lucario isn't our hardest, I really really do not think Falco is our hardest MU.
Then again Utah has no decent lucario mains...

 

[M@v]

Okay. So.
Got permission from Marc to post a teaser for everyone.

Here's one of the changed matchups for v2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJLmgnFpJg8

Destroyed me.

 

[dean.]

Slow Brawl under Custom game modifiers? (you know, the ones where you can set curry, heavy, flower, metal, invisible, etc.)

Edit: video was gdlk

I tend to forget these exist sometimes.

 

[M@v]

Ignore. I'm derping

 

[infiniteV115]

He was talking about Falco vs Yoshi, not Falco vs Lucario

 

[Jimmyfosho]

Do explain why you think Falco is so bad for Lucario. I hate the mu. I prefer fox much more in it. Falco vs lucario goes likethis for me usually:

1.He cant do anything to me when I camp!

2.*camps*

3.Ok! Now I have to kill him! I'm mediocre at killing so I need to make sure he's pretty high percent!

4.*is now dealing with a supercario*

5.*gets killed in 4-10 hits*


Fox is pretty much the same process, except I can kill him under 120 very easily, so no Supercario problems :/

Yo Mav bro I think he is talking about falco vs yoshi

 

[M@v]

T_T derp. Ignore that post LOL

 

[Steam]

yeah fox kinda... wrecks lucario... falco goes even with luc.

@fluttershy- X doesn't live in utah anymore? :0

@hichez- rather... Lucario can't play simple enough to make it a -3 IMO... he can't just play basic. he still has to do a good amount to outsmart the yoshi to really beat him.

 

[Tesh]

That video was amazing. I loved the ending.

__X__ is in Cali losing to Ness I hear.

 

[Espy Rose]

X has been in California, from last I heard.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Polt does not play trela all the time, I think you meant to type Espy.

Also Polt and I playing trela alot doesn't change the fact Lucario isn't our hardest, I really really do not think Falco is our hardest MU.
Then again Utah has no decent lucario mains...

My bad on that then, I thought Polt played him more often.

And no, Utah doesnt have many good Lucarios, but I have played multiple out of state ones like Kitamerby, Pitbull, etc, all of whom I have beaten (I lost to Kitamerby twice back in 2010 though, but my last encounter with him early this year around March I won. Beat Pitbull the one and only time I played him at Genesis) Wanted to play Trela, but time flies and I didnt keep track of it.

@fluttershy- X doesn't live in utah anymore? :0

No, he doesnt.

X has been in California, from last I heard.

Yep, hes in SoCal atm, and I believe he's #9 on their PR atm: http://a3.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hpho...182130578_726575577_21682395_1368149760_n.jpg

 

[Steam]

Colorado has two decent lucarios... me and fishbait.

and a lot of bad yoshis. a looooooot.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Utah has only one Yoshi and hes ****ing amazing. Lol.

But yeah, we dont have any legit Lucario mains here, but we do have people who second him. PhilNye also visits, hes coming down here for Christmas Break as a matter of fact.

 

[Nike.]

Glad ppl liked the vid lol.
Def takes away from the pain.

 

[Yink]

That video was amazing. I loved the ending.

__X__ is in Cali losing to Ness I hear.

Oh really? Which one? ViceGrip?

 

[Z'zgashi]

He lost to ViceGrip and FOW in the same tournament lol.