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Meta Knight Q&A Thread

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After a few SLs -> Glide Attack -> D-smashes on shield, does anyone else like to mix it up by using a f-smash instead of a D-smash? I find the opponent "punishing" the wrong one, and getting hit.

Good idea?
 
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should i use c-stick for aerials or just traditional a button?
 
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c-stick is usually better because it allows you to move around while performing the aerial better, for instance you can do a retreated forward air attack. other times you might want to use the A button like it really makes no difference if you're doing a rising uair string, but if you want to falling uair spam, you'd want to use the cstick, and using the cstick allows you to perform aerials while jumping most easily
 
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Nic64 said:
using the cstick allows you to perform aerials while jumping most easily
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do you mean with tap jump? i find it hard to move my thumb to the c-stick and back to X between each jump, any tips? or do i just need to practice.
 
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How much should spot-dodging or shielding be a part of MK's game? Should it be a large part, or only used in certain situations?
 
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Kaenon said:
do you mean with tap jump? i find it hard to move my thumb to the c-stick and back to X between each jump, any tips? or do i just need to practice.
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you could do that, I actually use my index finger a lot for this

How much should spot-dodging or shielding be a part of MK's game? Should it be a large part, or only used in certain situations?
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depends on your opponent, MK does have really good out of shield options so it's a valuable tool but sometimes you don't need it as much. spot dodge is good but with any of your defensive options you don't want to get predictable, any time you can dodge or perfect shield an attack on reaction is good though
 
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Nic64 said:
depends on your opponent, MK does have really good out of shield options so it's a valuable tool but sometimes you don't need it as much. spot dodge is good but with any of your defensive options you don't want to get predictable, any time you can dodge or perfect shield an attack on reaction is good though
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Thanks for the reply; where can I go to learn more about MK's out of shield options?
 
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MK does not have a CG. If you're good at landing grabs, sometimes you can get another grab in after a dthrow. That's the closest you'll get.
 
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Kazz@ said:
Can MK CG? Just asking. I tried it on CPUs with Dthrow, it works.
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This has to be the 10,000th time this has been asked. Remember to use the search function.


No, MKs D-throw does not chain-grab. You can do it to CPUs because they don't DI. Humans can avoid it easily.
 
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You can re-grab them as they land. That is all M2K did. He read Ally and re-grabbed him.

MK.Has.No.Chaingrab.

My question: I was watching some B.I.O. 2 videos, and I saw a MK do an air release against a Wario.. standing in the middle of battlefield. It was in the losers finals, and he did it multiple times! Is there a way to make this happen, or is it just a mistake on the Wario's part?

I would normally assume it was a mistake, but it happened twice and I would figure Futile would know how to force a ground break...
 
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_Phloat_ said:
MK.Has.No.Chaingrab.
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Actually, he has a ground-release chaingrab on Ness and Lucas and can end it with a guaranteed D-smash.

_Phloat_ said:
My question: I was watching some B.I.O. 2 videos, and I saw a MK do an air release against a Wario.. standing in the middle of battlefield. It was in the losers finals, and he did it multiple times! Is there a way to make this happen, or is it just a mistake on the Wario's part?

I would normally assume it was a mistake, but it happened twice and I would figure Futile would know how to force a ground break...
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Futile must've inputted a jump command while trying to break out. That's the only way he could've jump-breaked in that situation.
 
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Does MK gain a frame advantage from auto canceling an f-air or b-air hitting with only the first or the first and second hits? If so what is the advantage?
 
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-Affinity- said:
Actually, he has a ground-release chaingrab on Ness and Lucas and can end it with a guaranteed D-smash.
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OH BOY, NESS AND LUCAS. I'M SO GLAD YOU TOLD US ALL THIS BECAUSE I WAS GETTING ***** SO HARD BY THEM ALL THE TIME. NOW THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GRAB RELEASE ON THEM THERE'S NO WAY I'LL LOSE TO SUCH LOW-TIER, LIGHTWEIGHT CHARACTERS WITH POOR RECOVERIES AGAIN. THANK YOU AFFINITY FOR SHEDDING LIGHT ON THIS EPIC DILLEMA.

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We haven't even finished our own Shiek match-up because no one posted anything

I can't help because I've never fought Shiek 1 v 1 before
 
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Gates said:
OH BOY, NESS AND LUCAS. I'M SO GLAD YOU TOLD US ALL THIS BECAUSE I WAS GETTING ***** SO HARD BY THEM ALL THE TIME. NOW THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GRAB RELEASE ON THEM THERE'S NO WAY I'LL LOSE TO SUCH LOW-TIER, LIGHTWEIGHT CHARACTERS WITH POOR RECOVERIES AGAIN. THANK YOU AFFINITY FOR SHEDDING LIGHT ON THIS EPIC DILLEMA.

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Well, Lucas at least does "pretty well" against mk.
I use to play french's best ness and lucas, and, even though ness isn't that much troublesome, lucas can be pretty deadly to mk.
 
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Gates said:
OH BOY, NESS AND LUCAS. I'M SO GLAD YOU TOLD US ALL THIS BECAUSE I WAS GETTING ***** SO HARD BY THEM ALL THE TIME. NOW THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GRAB RELEASE ON THEM THERE'S NO WAY I'LL LOSE TO SUCH LOW-TIER, LIGHTWEIGHT CHARACTERS WITH POOR RECOVERIES AGAIN. THANK YOU AFFINITY FOR SHEDDING LIGHT ON THIS EPIC DILLEMA.

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You're welcome :p
 
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seriously, I think you could take grabbing out of the equation entirely and lucas would still be one of MK's easiest matchups
 
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Nic64 said:
seriously, I think you could take grabbing out of the equation entirely and lucas would still be one of MK's easiest matchups
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It depends there are few amazing lucas mains(that i know of...)

But one thing iv found is that MK is kinda weak to a strong spike and lucas can follow you out off the stage with 3 of em (2 bair and a dair)

So its not as easy as you may think.....
 
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Babar-Thorbald said:
Even m2k get reduced to one stock vs. lucas!
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LMAO, it's cause he was doing it wrong... or probably wasn't trying hard cause he doesn't need to... either way, if you just jump camp him and poke with dairs and fairs then it makes it extremely hard for the lucas to even touch MK. My roommate's Levitas. I play against his Lucas quite a bit. This is seriously a ******** bad matchup.
 
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Gates said:
OH BOY, NESS AND LUCAS. I'M SO GLAD YOU TOLD US ALL THIS BECAUSE I WAS GETTING ***** SO HARD BY THEM ALL THE TIME. NOW THAT I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A GRAB RELEASE ON THEM THERE'S NO WAY I'LL LOSE TO SUCH LOW-TIER, LIGHTWEIGHT CHARACTERS WITH POOR RECOVERIES AGAIN. THANK YOU AFFINITY FOR SHEDDING LIGHT ON THIS EPIC DILLEMA.

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lololooolololol <3
 
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Babar-Thorbald said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yn5ZRouWqI&translated=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46XGCyKMR6Y


Even m2k get reduced to one stock vs. lucas!

And ****ty mks can be screwed by lucas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KneFURqWQ6w


(Well, I previously (a looong loooong time ago, before I started to enter tourneys, but whatever) mained Lucas... I can't say he sucks that much ><).
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M2K is known for not being amazing at low-tier match-ups.

Meta Knight destroys Lucas once the MK knows what to do, as with every match-up that's strongly in his favor.
 
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Hi, I have a noob question.

How do some MK's (DSF would be a good example) controll the tornado so well? They make it last longer (tap b more for that I'm guessing) but they also make it go DOWN instead of up (which happens whenever I hit B repeatedly even when I'm holding down on the analog stick).
 
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What is the best attack for meta knight if your opponent is handing off the edge of the stage and yourself(mk) are recovering. I know shuttle loop is pretty good but it can be lethal to yourself if your opponent knows what he is doing.
So what is a safe way to attack your opponent(who is grabbing the edge[preferably pushing him downward]) while recovering?
Thanks in advance
 
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thexcheat said:
What is the best attack for meta knight if your opponent is handing off the edge of the stage and yourself(mk) are recovering. I know shuttle loop is pretty good but it can be lethal to yourself if your opponent knows what he is doing.
So what is a safe way to attack your opponent(who is grabbing the edge[preferably pushing him downward]) while recovering?
Thanks in advance
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Drill Rush and Tornado are both good. Any of MK's specials aside from dimensional cape can work here.

Hype said:
Is grab boosting and Reverse grab boosting at all useful with MK?
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What?

I've never heard of either of those. Grab boosting sounds like Dash Attack Canceled Grabs, which I believe is not possible in Brawl, and reverse grab boosting sounds like pivot grabbing, which is situationally useful for every character.
 
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