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[idea]

$12 000 000 canadian dollars on zelda

that'll get you like...2 cokes...with high fructose corn syrup or whatever the ****

 

[KAOSTAR]

...every twelve hours.

LMAO. only had 15 hrs of work this week. sorry.

Im not tryna do a 500$ mm with anyone lol. But Im definitely down for a mm. Me and sum homies are getting ready to purchase tickets to pound. Hype! Zelda is gettin ****ed up. and YL.

 

[x After Dawn x]

$12 000 000 canadian dollars on zelda

that'll get you like...2 cokes...with high fructose corn syrup or whatever the ****

that joke might've been funny when the american dollar wasn't weaker than the canadian dollar

get at me nga

 

[rhan]

LMAO. only had 15 hrs of work this week. sorry.

Im not tryna do a 500$ mm with anyone lol. But Im definitely down for a mm. Me and sum homies are getting ready to purchase tickets to pound. Hype! Zelda is gettin ****ed up. and YL.

Get ****ed up.

I work 36 hours a week.

I'm awesome.

Also I'll **** yo **** up so hard.

 

[KAOSTAR]

Get ****ed up.

I work 36 hours a week.

I'm awesome.

Also I'll **** yo **** up so hard.

I worked 36 last week. but yea can't wait to play.

 

[TheManaLord]

ill def take the mm ive one stocked taj in friendlies.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

omfg. i thought you guys would know that i was trolling when i started the m2/zelda debate up again

look what you've started john! also, you gonna be in naperville now that its winter break?

 

[KirbyKaze]

There is only one logical way to settle this.

JPleal10 TAS match perfect Zelda vs perfect Mewtwo.

Let's make it happen guys.

 

[rhan]

That's a time out match.

Cuz no one would hit each other...

 

[john!]

in a week or so sveet

 

[KirbyKaze]

That's a time out match.

Cuz no one would hit each other...

I am aware.

That's sort of the point lololol.

 

[rhan]

Mewtwo would still win it though...

That's the sad part.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Mewtwo is broke

He wins even when they both time out at 0

 

[Beat!]

I wanna see cosmo vs taj.
and kaostar vs dark hart.
settle it once and for all.

 

[rhan]

Kao would win.

Taj would win.

And I'd **** all of the above with YL.

OHAHAHAOAOAHAOHAOA

I just made a new argument guys. :3

 

[GOD!]

So I think yl>mewtwo and yl>>zelda.

But yl<kirby. Kirby's tiny body can be hard to hit with bombs, so its hard to get stage control

 

[rhan]

Kirby's pretty bad... And the projectiles aren't that hard to hit when the target is tiny.

 

[x After Dawn x]

guys kirby isn't bad at all. everybody else is just way too good!

 

[KirbyKaze]

kirby sux dik vs ylink

 

[boardsmash]

yall dont know about 5uck's kirby!

 

[rhan]

More like...

No one cares about 5uck's Kirby.

Shoo troll.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

the thing about tiny charcters is they make it harder to lock down and if you're big like let's say DK(his jumps aren't slowen down like gannon's/bowsers so he makes a better case for it plus he's somewhat fast) that fat body makes it harder for the user to move it out of the way/close self. Really you'd be surprised how much of a difference size makes. However to say that souly will make it harder to camp? no it just makes it easier for them to avoid the projectile won't make them get to the camper much faster.

you need a combo of beating out camping moves+speed. i'd argee kirby is the slowest in the game(bowser on YS is faster than kirby.)

 

[x After Dawn x]

itt insane carzy pichu thinks hurtboxes = hitboxes

pichu sucks

discuss

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

itt insane carzy pichu thinks hurtboxes = hitboxes

pichu sucks

discuss

I think anyone from mario and lower sucks. However in most cases the player sucks much more.

hurtbox can =hitbox

 

[x After Dawn x]

no, that just means they coincidentally take up the same placement, but otherwise there is technically no placement correlation between the two

also pichu sucks more bawlz than every other character combined.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Pichu might be better than Kirby.

Though that's really not saying much. And he could also be worse than Kirby.

Other than Yoshi being at the top of it, ordering the bottom tier is weird.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I think the warp star counts but whatever. Also I've been smoking after that my mind takes like a few days to a week to recover and my mind is terrible. I shouldn't ever smoke. I'm horriblely confused and depressed. yoshi is better than the rest of the bottom I argee.

pichu is better just not in real play because kirby is far easier to get down and people don't know how to fight kirby. but yeah puff is harder to understand than kirby. I don't know, I think puff is harder to play as than kirby. Once you've played enough kirby I feel like there aren't any more surprises worth doing. stone mindgames aren't as cleaver as they seem i've rested people out of that.

crap i'm ranting again.

short story pichu's nair is safer than anything kirby has and punishes decently like nair to up-tilt to nair even works on puff I played in training mode doing combos and junk today.

 

[Divinokage]

Pretty sure Kirby's bair beats Pichus nair. If you put 2 low tiers together, then its like playing Fox/Sheik except way worse... and that also means its all about the player.

 

[NJzFinest]

Pichu is better then Kirby.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I'm pretty sure ness's d-smash can beat fox's nair which move is better?

get that logic out of here. nair has greater distance covered so pichu's nair hitbox is fact longer in shorter brusts of time. Pichu's SH is safer than kirby's bair you can nair or 2nd jump back jolt seriously beats out like every option other than marth WD forward f-smash or something like that.

You can't do everything with kirby's bair and besides most people have a baetter bair to camp with DK, luigi, puff, space animals, marios, and not counting the great fair campers like marth, ness(XD) or gannon.

you can seriously win a match with just nair as pichu.

 

[t3h Icy]

We ought to see Unknown522 vs Armada one day to end this silly debate.

 

[x After Dawn x]

you can seriously win a match with just nair as pichu.

AHAHAHAHA

i was waiting for something like this

welcome to my new sig

 

[None Shall Pass]

Pichu is better then Kirby.

In my honest opinion, I also think Pichu is better than Roy.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

roy has like 3 moves worth uses a fair amount he has B, d-tilt and grabs to small combos all of them aren't to easy to CC. But roy is incrediblely terrible. but his awful match-ups feel worse to me. I don't know I like pichu vs sheik even if it's so terrible it makes you want to cry.

no Pichu's nair if used right is safer than fox's nair I didn't say that first catuar did. even if you're ******** and can't can nair upair/jab on a sheild you can sstill buffer rolls/spot dodges and they can't really punish it oos unless they predict your roll and WD after and are marth and grab you cause you're still sheilding from after the roll. pichu has monster rolls compared to most of the cast it's like 33rd or something better than falcon rolls i'm pretty sure.

Really if you last the 1st part that damages on their sheild you can in fact bet them to the sheild grab from having a frame adavance.

as for being tilted XD if that happens you're to predictable and could easily mix-up with jolts and d-tilts. or full hop FF nair or whatever. there are only a few more spamable moves. however this is the most spamable non camping move in the game.

 

[The Good Doctor]

In my honest opinion, I also think Pichu is better than Roy.

You would be wrong, very, very wrong...

 

[VGmasta]

In my honest opinion, I also think Pichu is better than Roy.

I doubt this. Roy spacing game is so much better. Roy has side-B gimmicks, amazing grab reach.

 

[x After Dawn x]

Roy is definitely better than Pichu without a doubt, and I'm pretty sure most people at this point believe Pichu is better than Kirby.

The thing is, no one cares because they both suck ****. One of them just gets ***** slightly harder than the other.

 

[None Shall Pass]

You would be wrong, very, very wrong...

I doubt this. Roy spacing game is so much better. Roy has side-B gimmicks, amazing grab reach.

Roy is definitely better than Pichu without a doubt, and I'm pretty sure most people at this point believe Pichu is better than Kirby.

The thing is, no one cares because they both suck ****. One of them just gets ***** slightly harder than the other.

Really? I thought about it quite a bit, so hear me out.

Roy can't approach, has horrendous fall speed, and has weight perfect for getting combo *****.

In terms of spacing, Roy is better. But all those negative factors even that 'positive' to a neutral.

I remember Mew2King stating how terrible Roy was, possibly bottom 2.

 

[john!]

i have seen great players of every bottom tier character except ness. i really think ness might be the very worst. name me a ness player that could beat armada's kirby or kdj's pichu.

i hear hungrybox has a good ness, but i've never seen it...

 

[None Shall Pass]

i have seen great players of every bottom tier character except ness. i really think ness might be the very worst. name me a ness player that could beat armada's kirby or kdj's pichu.

i hear hungrybox has a good ness, but i've never seen it...

I've heard of good Ness players. MoFo, for one.

But good Roy players? Was Sethlon decent?