The Good Doctor
Smash Champion
Do you know about Neo?
I think he plays Brawl now though
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I think he plays Brawl now though
kdj's pichu got 4 stocked by some random link in tourney. Thats not a jab at kdj, pichu is just ****ing terrible lmao.
None Shall Pass
Smash Apprentice
I know him. Plays Marth in Brawl, but does anybody have videos of Neo's Roy?
The Good Doctor
Smash Champion
youtube has matches between him and Ken
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
IMO pichu is better than kirby just on the basic level of hit ppl while not getting hit. They both still suck **** and balls tho.
The Good Doctor
Smash Champion
As does Mewtwo
*Runs away*
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Yea m2 has some problems. but he be gettin off tho
x After Dawn x
Smash Master
mew2king has also changed his mind a billion times in terms of tiers, and last time i checked he does not think roy is bottom 2.
there's simna (i think that's how you spell it). i think he took a match off kage at genesis lolol. then there was also some sick ness player that was almost going even with hax at some east coast tourney earlier this year. the latter was recorded and uploaded to youtube.
None Shall Pass
Smash Apprentice
The Good Doctor
Smash Champion
I think they Roy dittoed in one set and NEO won.
I havent watched them in a while...
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
To be fair KDJ didn't main pichu or anything, He was just smart and knew a little more than the basics. Really I don't think anyone has really tapped pichu all too much.
x After Dawn x
Smash Master
That's because Pichu likes big ****s up his ***.
john!
Smash Hero
oh mah gawd. just watched mofo vs. hax. i take back what i said about ness.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
I don't say pichu is better than ness becaus eI don't know ness inside and out. I know when to STFU.
No you're thinking of pikachu seriously you are. go to training mode pick pikachu and pichu have pichu get the scope shoot or whatever it's called run out of ammo then walk up as close as you can to pikachu from behide as he ducks and start shooting
No you're thinking of pikachu seriously you are. go to training mode pick pikachu and pichu have pichu get the scope shoot or whatever it's called run out of ammo then walk up as close as you can to pikachu from behide as he ducks and start shooting
x After Dawn x
Smash Master
yes that was the one. now you know!
i don't think you understand the concept of a censorship
it means there was a very bad word that was filtered out
there are more than guns that go up pichu's ***
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
You're pretty sick to be watching pichu like that.
why would you stalk pichu like that?
But pichu vs puff is seriously like a 20-80 match-up. should be changed
why would you stalk pichu like that?
But pichu vs puff is seriously like a 20-80 match-up. should be changed
LOL no
Go watch Sethlon, **** NEO.
The fact that Roy has a sword, a real grab, and a good dash dance automatically makes him better then the entirety of the bottom tier.
Prolly dash dance to forward b > most of bottom tier.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
roy's matchups with good characters are much better than pichu's
and his matchups with bad characters are probably better too
and his matchups with bad characters are probably better too
Divinokage
Smash Legend
I dont know.. man Ganon/Roy is as bad as Ganon/Pichu. =P There's no way in hell a Ganon will lose to Roy. Sethlon got 3-4 stocked by me every single time. lol.
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
who do you count as good? I only count 4 charcters. you're full of yourself if you say forward B> any charcter is pretty extreme. Also bowser's side-B is pretty good and if G&W's metagame was totally centered around side-B that would be funny and pretty good I guess. XD d/up-tilt/d-throw, up-smash to side-B spam.
I'm pretty sure pichu does better vs gannondorf maybe it's just me but projectiles and a great recovery helps. Plus ducking under jabs and grabs is helpful. As long as you keep moving and don't use a move he can punish once hit even if he sheilds you're alright. Just take your time and ban YS so he can't caught you(POKE'MON).
didn't see kage post I was playing with a cat as I posted so it took a long time.
I'm pretty sure pichu does better vs gannondorf maybe it's just me but projectiles and a great recovery helps. Plus ducking under jabs and grabs is helpful. As long as you keep moving and don't use a move he can punish once hit even if he sheilds you're alright. Just take your time and ban YS so he can't caught you(POKE'MON).
didn't see kage post I was playing with a cat as I posted so it took a long time.
None Shall Pass
Smash Apprentice
I'm assuming you missed my previous post? Sethlon was mentioned first for a reason, he's notable.
Roy still has horrendous fall speed, doesn't have any adequate tools for spacing or keeping opponents out of his safe zone, and have you tried recovering?
Granted, Pichu is pretty bad. Roy for 3rd worst then?
Hmm.
Since this is coming from you, it's probably correct.
ness vs hax was pretty fun to watch but wasn't that great of a set.
hax didn't do basic stuff like fh uair/knee/aerial oos whenever mofo fullhop faired over him.
hax didn't do basic stuff like fh uair/knee/aerial oos whenever mofo fullhop faired over him.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
You never played me, so.. how can you know Ganon's full potential? =)
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
roy has a few moves he can stop SHFFLed approach. his spaceing tools aren't too bad look at his WD, DD and junk. also use B more if you're getting CC ***** d-tilt isn't bad for beating CCs either. I've been playing a lot of roy dittos lately and I basically spam the ssafer moves DD grab, d-tilt, and SH B or sh 2nd jump to something. I ruin their CC game till I can do whatever I can fair if I wanted then I go off kills. normally up-throw : P
He's just extremely limited in the air doesn't make him totally worthless
I've never played a pichu better than lori's how can I know pichu's true potential? no he's hella slow it's not hard to avoid him on KJ64. yeah I'm pretty gay.
None Shall Pass
Smash Apprentice
Makes sense. It was only a suggestion in the first place, though.
So: Roy for 3rd worst? I do think Ness and Bowser are better.
Also, opinions on Luigi and Mario. Just curious.
So: Roy for 3rd worst? I do think Ness and Bowser are better.
Also, opinions on Luigi and Mario. Just curious.
Stevo
Smash Champion
Although it doesn't really matter
I think Roy is better than negligible tier
I think Roy is better than negligible tier
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
Try to f*** around vs a good roy player it won't work I git 4 stocked by ripple by laughing at the fact he used roy and CCed everything I got *****. Yeah I learned not to laugh at people for who they main unless it's ness. wait roy is ***** hardcore by sheik, ice climbers, gannon, marth, then ***** just hard by like puff, and i'd expect samus/peach and i'm pretty sure space naimals are debateable but in the end they still win even if they teat him like marth with just no fair worth using.
then pichu is just hardcore ***** by peach/sheik/ice climbers but I think sheik is the most dealable with any more then pichu has problems with marios (play it trust me if you want to win you'll have to d*** near time out but what's funny is how you outrange luigi/dr. mario with d-tilt) then other match-ups are like 20-80 but really I feel like those are more bareable than you'd think I don't know I love fighting people who have meat walls like puff/marth/gannon/roy becaus eyou can slowly tear them down and get your hits.
don't know 20-80 match-ups are winable within reaosn I think.
roy suffers a little worse in some places I guess.
then pichu is just hardcore ***** by peach/sheik/ice climbers but I think sheik is the most dealable with any more then pichu has problems with marios (play it trust me if you want to win you'll have to d*** near time out but what's funny is how you outrange luigi/dr. mario with d-tilt) then other match-ups are like 20-80 but really I feel like those are more bareable than you'd think I don't know I love fighting people who have meat walls like puff/marth/gannon/roy becaus eyou can slowly tear them down and get your hits.
don't know 20-80 match-ups are winable within reaosn I think.
roy suffers a little worse in some places I guess.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
80-20 is def winnable lol
Stevo
Smash Champion
1:0 or 0:1 sounds good
Fortress | Sveet
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why not damage output per hit
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Yea how bout that advantage system lol.
Or Icy....just talk with a few of hte ppl u think are smart ninjas and come up with a definition for those numbers. It was the biggest problem, nobody knew what the numbers meant and therefore couldnt possibly finish a MU chart.
1 give meaning to the numbers
2 revise MUs already done
3 finish chart.
4 success
Or Icy....just talk with a few of hte ppl u think are smart ninjas and come up with a definition for those numbers. It was the biggest problem, nobody knew what the numbers meant and therefore couldnt possibly finish a MU chart.
1 give meaning to the numbers
2 revise MUs already done
3 finish chart.
4 success
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
the problem with going off of stocks is it takes stages out of of the problem. puff on JK64 and DL64 vs fox is different. or links on YS YS or PS chnges the MU completlely then if you try to count all the stage with the stock system it becomes even more theory based then whatever we're doing now
Dark Hart
Rejected by Azua
Beat!
Smash Master
Can't watch it right now, but I guess it's pp's jv5 vs tubes.
PP has always been good at that matchup, moreso then pretty much any Falco.
He is the 2010 Forward.
None Shall Pass, I'm not sure how you think Roy has terrible spacing if his sword is basically the same in length compared to Marth's and he can dash dance camp just as good as Marth lol.
Roy is bad since he sucks at racking up damage (only a few moves actually lead into anything and it's character dependent), struggles to get the kill most of the time (he can only combo into a KOing move at certain %s on certain characters), and crouch canceling completely destroys the one good setup he has (dtilt).
He is the 2010 Forward.
None Shall Pass, I'm not sure how you think Roy has terrible spacing if his sword is basically the same in length compared to Marth's and he can dash dance camp just as good as Marth lol.
Roy is bad since he sucks at racking up damage (only a few moves actually lead into anything and it's character dependent), struggles to get the kill most of the time (he can only combo into a KOing move at certain %s on certain characters), and crouch canceling completely destroys the one good setup he has (dtilt).
x After Dawn x
Smash Master
roy seems okay in the first 30 seconds of the match
but then you realize he's not okay when you're on your last stock and you still haven't killed your opponent and he's at 900 %
but then you realize he's not okay when you're on your last stock and you still haven't killed your opponent and he's at 900 %
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
I think he was referring to usable range. the tips are terrible to trade with.
I just don't see roys tipper anything to be all that worthy of the title "range"
None Shall Pass
Smash Apprentice
Therefore, these 'tools' you're suggesting Roy has for good spacing become irrelevant.
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