League of Legends

[Sieg]

Shyv dominated, she will be FotM. TSM just got outplayed by a more well-coordinated team who had weird team composition. Shyv will fail at FotM because you actually need a good team to play her in the style that she was played, and obviously all the solo q heroes won't realise this.

Ward your goddamn red.

Add me: Sieg00

 

[Rad]

Every game in the finals snowballed purely off of a single stupid mistake. Of course, it was aggressive plays that forced these mistakes, but it made for a very disappointing series in my eyes. (And then there was the picks and bans...)

Idk, I'm not convinced League of Legends works well as an e-sport. Still a nail-biter though!

 

[Sieg]

160k views on stream during finals and you don't think it'll work?

 

[Rad]

I haven't fully considered my thoughts on the subject, but there's something off with the game as a spectator sport and I haven't put my finger on it.

 

[Remastered]

The problem I find with spectating is that you can't watch all the action at once unless it is all occuring in one place.

After the finals, I had 3 teams last night try the backdoor red attempt and failed everytime. People will try and replicate it, but it will never be as successful without the full map awareness of a co-ordinated team.

Shyv in my opinion is an incredibly strong champ. Used her this week in her free week and basically ***** face out of the jungle. Her ganks are fantastic (especially with red) and it's almost unfair how quickly she clears the jungle. Very underrated champ, well not anymore.

 

[Shaya]

1. Shyvana isn't a good ganker. In uncoordinated examples (i.e. our level of play), she's pretty fine camping top to be a complete nuisance.
Red buff doesn't proc her E any more, which has hurt her ganking noticeably in most other lanes.

2. Incredibly strong? She's a fine character, but she still has fundamental issues in her kit (mostly relating to her E spell) that need to be addressed to stabilise her + truly make her shine. Unfortunately, they will now likely never come because she was USED IN A TOURNAMENT.

3. Her jungle clear speeds are fantastic. Mundo does actually jungle faster than her now though, but is about half the awesome of Shyvana.

 

[Remastered]

I have seen a lot of top level players ganking with her fantastically well. You just have to gank from angles. She obviously isn't as strong as rammus or lee sin etc at ganking. But they are far from bad and well above average with her flashfire gap closer which is up the entire gank if you time it to begin your AA's. It's no worse than jungle Master Yi.

Her ganking is fine, but what makes up for her just above par ganking, is her amazing clear speed. I have a friend of mine who jungles regularly with Mundo now, and he keeps up with the rest of the map so incredibly well. Not to mention cleavers slow and range making ganks easier. I'm a big fan of jungle Mundo too.

 

[SethT]

I strongly disagree when you say Shyvanna isn't a good ganker. Sitting there watching Domo play her is something to be seen. Her ult gives her such a strong form of initiation and allows for her dive towers with a fair amount of success. Her movement speed increase/damage ability is also really good.

What makes her shine though is her ability to counter jungle as everybody saw throughout the tournament by M5.

In fact a lot of the top Aussie junglers have been using her a lot.

Mundo clears the jungle fast but gets way to low on the first run :[ but if he gets through the start, well, he then just goes where he pleases.

 

[Shaya]

</maining shyvana since ever>

If I'm to even attempt to compare what shyvana can do to what shaco can do....

</would be maining shaco if he wasn't perma banned>

 

[SethT]

Shacos ganks are in a different league. However at the end of the day, I'd prefer having a good shyvanna on my team then a good shaco.

 

[Remastered]

Thanks for the game last night Ace. Glad Crypts and I could keep up with your team. Sad we had to have 3 ring ins.

My mate fixed his hard drive, so we should have our full kit together again one night this week I hope.

 

[Aussierob123]

I feel the same way as Rad kinda, I just don't feel like there's enough punishing in LoL. The only reason I feel like that is because I played hon first though and you are always punished for things. Having said that I love playing LoL and can respect that it is indeed competitive, just not in the nature that I enjoy to watch.

 

[xXArrowXx]

heeey i was keeping up with the singed. and i recieved no ganks like he did =P

 

[SethT]

Thanks for the game last night Ace. Glad Crypts and I could keep up with your team. Sad we had to have 3 ring ins.

My mate fixed his hard drive, so we should have our full kit together again one night this week I hope.

Anytime, give me a heads up when you can get your team online and we'd be keen to scrim again.

 

[Remastered]

Yeh we really could have done with Slim in the jungle, or even me. Popdart going 0/8 didn't help us at all. I remember when I played Shaya and his group for the first time about 3 weeks after I started on LoL and getting dominated in a scrim.

 

[Shaya]

I don't recall playing with you before you hit 30, I could be wrong though.

 

[Remastered]

It was just as I hit lvl 30, I bought XP boosts lol.

 

[Rad]

I want to vs. other states again.

Also we did play with Ad3pt before he hit 30 I remember because I wasn't 30 yet either or was just barely 30.

NSW 3v3 team is the worst 3v3 team in the world also. We want to get schooled at 3v3 by someone.

 

[xXArrowXx]

yeah i remember shyvana gank wrecking XD
i was like under lvl 20 at the time.

 

[Redact]

melbourne would **** u guys

too bad we play dota now instead (the good ones at least, apart from sam)

 

[Rad]

Walking into a thread and saying "This team who doesn't even play this game because this game sucks would totally **** you guys" is a really ****ing rude thing to do. Who asked?

That's right, no one.

 

[Ledge_g2]

lol, LoL rage already.

 

[Redact]

ur a littl mad (n a littl bad)

 

[SethT]

melbourne would **** u guys

too bad we play dota now instead (the good ones at least, apart from sam)

That DotA ego 2op. Checked out DotA2 and had more fun playing LoL. Soz.

 

[Redact]

That's because you're bad at video games

you guys can stick to lol, rather keep the baddies in 1 game aye

 

[Rad]

Are you trying to incite a response of some kind? o.O

 

[Redact]

Well you are the one who said you want to vs other states again, so being in another state i came and said what i thought about the other states along with what would happen if we did vs you (:

 

[Splice]

I'm not sure why Rad got so mad in the first place, then I think aces was the first one to actually incite any kind of DotA vs LoL talk. Phil just said he plays DotA2 now whereas Aces was more insulting.

And if you act like that it's pretty hard for Redact not to troll you (a.k.a his response to Aces), I mean come on guys, Rad calm the **** down rofl

 

[Leisha]

Dota2 Vs LoL

Kay go!

New computer arrives monday <3! I'll take a pic of setup.

 

[SethT]

I'm not sure why Rad got so mad in the first place, then I think aces was the first one to actually incite any kind of DotA vs LoL talk. Phil just said he plays DotA2 now whereas Aces was more insulting.

And if you act like that it's pretty hard for Redact not to troll you (a.k.a his response to Aces), I mean come on guys, Rad calm the **** down rofl

Unintentional inciting, but yah perhaps. More a comment towards redacts ego/my experience of egotistical DotA players. If I wanted to incite DotA2 vs LoL I'd talk about how buying items in DotA2 makes me want to cut myself. I don't mind DotA, I just like the game mechanics/metagame of LoL more. Even if its easier.

:D

but srsmode, there's a line between trolling and just being a ****.

That's because you're bad at video games

you guys can stick to lol, rather keep the baddies in 1 game aye

I rest my case.

 

[Splice]

That was after you insulted him though :/

Also the shop in Dota2 makes me want to cut myself too. I will learn it though, when I stop playing the original altogether I will get used to the Dota2 shop properly.

 

[Pete278]

Once you edit your item builds you never have to use the shop again so its okay.

 

[Redact]

dota 2 shop isnt even finished from what i understand

just sayin

 

[Splice]

Dota2 Beta

 

[SethT]

That was after you insulted him though :/

Also the shop in Dota2 makes me want to cut myself too. I will learn it though, when I stop playing the original altogether I will get used to the Dota2 shop properly.

Insulted? Saying Melbourne would **** everybody seemed a little egotistical to me and so I just expressed what I thought :D

Yah when they improve it I'll probably take another look.

 

[Aussierob123]

Dota2 ego 2op is a really harsh insulting thing to say aces. Like really really insulting. I'm extremely offended that you would even say such a thing. I hope your mother doesn't have to listen to such fowl language. Please clean up your act.

 

[Darkwing SykeDuk]

dun make me get halo out..

 

[SethT]

Soz :[ I've been attending regular sessions in an attempt to curve my dastardly ways, alas to no avail.

 

[Splice]

Dota2 ego 2op is a really harsh insulting thing to say aces. Like really really insulting. I'm extremely offended that you would even say such a thing. I hope your mother doesn't have to listen to such fowl language. Please clean up your act.

Yeah, and I was totally unprepared when I waltzed into this thread to read that. As someone who plays DotA I cried so much, but I only had 3 plush toys and to wipe up this amount of tears and console my self, I would certainly need 5 or more.

 

[Shaya]

Friendly reminder to stop talking about dota in this thread.