Jigglypuff General Discussion Thread (Q&A)

[Airgemini]

I believe its her best neutral, I'm not sure though...
Dacus and Rollout are kind of better since there arent any platforms, um...

 

[GeneralWoodman]

battlefield is her best neutral

 

[illinialex24]

Ignore this post unless your trashy Woody.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

i think SV is best neurtal, not large enough to camp on like FD, and it has the ballon

 

[PND]

My run down on the neutrals

If the character lacks good platform pressure, then I like BF. Characters that I like playing on BF include Captain, Ganon, Fox, and Lucario, and Ice Climbers. For everyone else, there's FD / SV. Don't fight a Diddy on this level, take him anywhere else.

FD has larger blastzones (good for us) and the lip to mess with people's recoveries. Great level for her.

SV is better against campier characters due to the size reduction, and resting the balloon is the best taunt ever. The floating platform can lead to tech chased rests, and you can uair them safely through it if it's moving away from you, provided you drift the uair away from the direction it's moving. Note: this shield pokes if they're shield is low, and sets them up in the air for further chasing.

Yoshis is good against characters with multiple jumps and PK kids, as it allows their recoveries to be intercepted much easier. The platform constantly moves, preventing it from being exploited too much, except for the likes of Snake, G&W, and Marth. Avoid them here, if you can. Work on using the wall to stage spike.

Lylat is great against characters with crap recoveries. Characters like Snake, G&W, and from my experience, Lucario, are really good on this stage. Don't take them here either.

 

[RhedKing]

I likes Battlefield for the platform sharking, and Fd for the simplicity and epic edges.
Sv is a great cross between the two, but lacks the stationary platforms and the epic edges.

(picto-chat is still the best stage though)

10pictochatbombs

 

[t3h n00b]

I was talking to some people about momentum canceling, and I always use uair to momentum cancel with Captain Falcon because it ends faster than his other aerials. Someone said that the second kick of his nair counteracts more knockback. I also remember hearing that fair was supposed to be the best move to cancel momentum for Jiggs, even though it doesn't end the fastest. I don't see how aerial moves can counteract knockback. So I guess my question is, what is the best aerial for Jigglypuff to momentum cancel with and why is it the best?

 

[Airgemini]

I asked the same question when I came to the boards.
Apparently it's Fair, then Uair is supposed to be the second best..

I don't know why though.

 

[Frolossus]

Is there a thread for good secondaries for a jiggs main?

 

[HiddenBowser]

m k

 

[PND]

MK or Snake.

I go with Snake.

 

[Spoonbob]

I went with D3, lol. He covers or goes even with most of Jiggs' bad matchups, and isn't annoying as hell to pick up.

 

[Noobicidal]

I went with D3, lol. He covers or goes even with most of Jiggs' bad matchups, and is annoying as hell.

Fixed.

10notthathardtopickup.

 

[t3h n00b]

I MAIN D3 NOW because he's unstoppable on wifi and I pull more gordos than waddle dees.

His true reason

 

[kirbywizard]

I use Luigi, Olimar and JIgglypuff but the problem with all three of them is they have trouble with characters that have swords >_>. I say you go with Snake or D3 they cover up the match ups pretty well.

 

[Egg Fu Yung]

Yeah, just wondering if anything about Jiggz' meta game has changed since September 08. I dont really like Brawl but I decided I might as well come back XD. Also whose the best Jigglypuff player(s) out there at the moment?

- Tyser

EDIT: Just noticed there was a thread for "advanced techs", but whose the best Jiggz at the moment?

 

[Man of Popsicle]

Jigglypuff shield break in HRC. Try it. What happens in: Subspace? Target Test? And Boss Battles? Or on the bottom of spear pillar?

 

[Frolossus]

Yeah, just wondering if anything about Jiggz' meta game has changed since September 08. I dont really like Brawl but I decided I might as well come back XD. Also whose the best Jigglypuff player(s) out there at the moment?

- Tyser

EDIT: Just noticed there was a thread for "advanced techs", but whose the best Jiggz at the moment?

The best jiggs right now are probably pnd mike thinkaman and g-reg

 

[PND]

As for the shieldbreak thing, when you do it in Spear Pillar or Weegees Mansion you just spin right round (like a record baby) against the ceiling. You take some damage as well, IIRC. Shield Break and Rollout breaks SSE.

As for the best Jiggs, top 5, in no particular order, would probably be G-Reg, Thinkaman, Woody, Glick, and I. Meta and Jigglymaster/Dapuffster are definitely contenders, and I've seen Jiggernaut play really, really well before.

Those are probably the top Jiggs

 

[san.]

Just wondering: Has there ever been a jigglypuff gimp topic? or something along those lines. I just want to make sure I didn't miss anything like that.

 

[Spoonbob]

Just wondering: Has there ever been a jigglypuff gimp topic? or something along those lines. I just want to make sure I didn't miss anything like that.

There hasn't been one since I've been here, which is December. Gimping is generally discussed in matchup discussions.

 

[Cold Fusion]

When/will the matchup discussions resume?

 

[Spoonbob]

When/will the matchup discussions resume?

When someone feels like taking the reins and resuming them, lol.

Most leading Jiggs players left (for B+, or TIERZZZ) or are just inactive for whatever reasons. There's no one really running anything right now.

 

[t3h n00b]

When someone feels like taking the reins and resuming them, lol. Like me, right now, since I'm not addicted to Brawl+

WOW! Great idea!

 

[-Axle-]

Quick questions:
1. Is it a good idea to use rollout to pressure/ fake out other players? I've been able to shrink people's shields a lot by just charging rollout out of range, and I find that if I jump forward and charge a rollout people expect a bair or pound and react accordingly and leave themselves open.
2. Would anyone want to arrange some friendlies some time, since I'm sort of new to brawl. You could tell me what to work on and I could see what you're doing right.

 

[PND]

1) A lot of characters can punish it. But learning to use rollout to fake out the other player, as you mentioned, gives the move some use. Just, don't overuse it. It's really easily punishable.

 

[Thinkaman]

The key to Rollout is that it charges really fast and makes people freak out so that they respond in non-optimal manners. Also, in many cases the worst-case scenario is finishing Rollout off the stage to reset the situation.

If you Rollout high, chances are you are going to finish on the far side of the stage. If there were platforms along the way you go your jumps back, and either way you are now lower.

It is almost *ALWAYS* better to be lower than your opponent in Brawl.

 

[Cold Fusion]

In general, how effective is planking with Jigglypuff?

 

[Thinkaman]

I never really plank except in the more general sense of retreating to the edge against aggressive respawning opponents. She's pretty safe on the edge though--the ability to jump around far and low safely let's her stall without grabbign the ledge that often, if that's your thing. I've never really investigated it.

 

[-Axle-]

The key to Rollout is that it charges really fast and makes people freak out so that they respond in non-optimal manners. Also, in many cases the worst-case scenario is finishing Rollout off the stage to reset the situation.

If you Rollout high, chances are you are going to finish on the far side of the stage. If there were platforms along the way you go your jumps back, and either way you are now lower.

It is almost *ALWAYS* better to be lower than your opponent in Brawl.

ya rly

It sucks when you land on a platform above your opponent, especially small ones >_<

 

[RhedKing]

I've got a question (derp why else would I be here):

A train leaves Michigan at 2:30 traveling 56Mph, a second train-

I think you get the idea...

anyway, I've really changed my play style around a lot and I find breaking sheilds happens to be one of my favorite passtimes, However, it usually takes 5 or so hits to kill a shielder (considering they're regen rate)

Besides pound, what breaking moves should I be doing?

 

[t3h n00b]

Rest takes out about 1/4 of a shield and has its hitbox expand when someone shields. Or you could just hit them with something that has range and shield poking would be useful, unless you really want to break their shield before you kill them for some reason.

 

[Noobicidal]

Besides pound, what breaking moves should I be doing?

Dair. Her aerial mobility combined with it's killer disjoint create a fairly safe shield poker/breaker.

SH retreating Dairs are too lulzy.

 

[illinialex24]

I see that Woody has been gone for 5 days now.... I might post once a week or once a day in here now.....

 

[Icyo]

Is it possible to do a d-tilt lock against walls?

 

[Cold Fusion]

Is it possible to do a d-tilt lock against walls?

Not that I know of. F-tilt locks semi-work against walls though.

 

[Metatitan]

This is brawl, unless you are charging a smash and they are trying to shield it, there should be no shieldbreaking. On occasion it may happen but your main shield pressure attacks will be Dair and Bair. Dair eats up shield and is safe, Bair is safer than Dair but does not eat up as much.

 

[Icyo]

Not that I know of. F-tilt locks semi-work against walls though.

Just did it against a Peach for a little on Frigate Orpheon. Someone should look into this because I think it's possible.

 

[illinialex24]

This is brawl, unless you are charging a smash and they are trying to shield it, there should be no shieldbreaking. On occasion it may happen but your main shield pressure attacks will be Dair and Bair. Dair eats up shield and is safe, Bair is safer than Dair but does not eat up as much.

I had the funniest clip for this. Playing a good opponent, catch him on a shield with shieldbreaker. He lands on BF the platform above. Footstool him on the way up accidentally and he's free.........

 

[Icyo]

I had the funniest clip for this. Playing a good opponent, catch him on a shield with shieldbreaker. He lands on BF the platform above. Footstool him on the way up accidentally and he's free.........

You should of used that as a john and blamed sakurai.