Anyone know if we can get 0 lag from QD sometimes like MK nado? It seems like it sometimes to me, but I can't tell just from eyeballing it.
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Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread
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Ussi
Smash Legend
Isn't that landing before you fall into freefall on QD, or some auto cancel thing?
YagamiLight
Smash Champion
I am not 100% sure of what Ike's Aerial non-hit QD finishing animation looks like (like, the last frame), but I am certain that there should be a lagless point somewhere.
Or actually, there might not be as what would be the lagless 'becomes' the grounded sliding animation if Ike touches the ground. A strange cosmetic change that affects gameplay, maybe.
For an example that doesn't affect gameplay, jump high into the air and begin charging Eruption. Look at Ike's knees as he goes from the air to the ground. Weird, huh?
Or actually, there might not be as what would be the lagless 'becomes' the grounded sliding animation if Ike touches the ground. A strange cosmetic change that affects gameplay, maybe.
For an example that doesn't affect gameplay, jump high into the air and begin charging Eruption. Look at Ike's knees as he goes from the air to the ground. Weird, huh?
Ussi
Smash Legend
I think doing SH back flips to bair actually makes a difference when landing.
YagamiLight
Smash Champion
Yeah I was considering testing that as well but then I just said **** it.
Slaps
Smash Lord
Ok so Xyro msged me after I asked about Whobo3 and said that he is holding it earlier to try and get more people to go (aka. Mr. Doom XD) so he said Spring Break in the message so I am guessing it will not be held at the anime convention =\ but am asking him that now... Also yeah Red I figured you could do that just never spent time testing it.... The timing is hard but possible.. very risky if you miss since any kind of edge grab= edgeguarded aether XD lol
theeboredone
Smash Legend
The whole doing d-air off the edge hang thing does sound too risky. Personally, I try to just foot stool them. Works well, especially on enemies with average to poor recoveries.
Nidtendofreak
Smash Hero
So, if I saw that "may or may not be true" leaked tier list...Ike > Sheik, PT, Ness, Lucas, Bowser for a +5 jump. Though Sheik/Zelda is > Ike.
Yeah I saw it. LOL @ Fox though. He *might* deserve to be around that high, but why not put Sonic or Luigi there, when they've proven more than fox have so far?
Anyways, I recently put the stale moves in training mode code, which helps a lot. Learned that FULLY stale bthrow to dash attack works on MK until 137%, falco until like 138%, and DDD until like 163% lol. That means that partially stale bthrow-> dash attack probably works well into the 100s for most characters =D
Anyways, I recently put the stale moves in training mode code, which helps a lot. Learned that FULLY stale bthrow to dash attack works on MK until 137%, falco until like 138%, and DDD until like 163% lol. That means that partially stale bthrow-> dash attack probably works well into the 100s for most characters =D
RedX you can easily google it. Training mode is a lot more helpful with stale moves.
Not that I know of.
YagamiLight
Smash Champion
I was predicting something similar to this except I was saying that Ike > Wolf + Sonic but Zelda/ Sheik > Ike.
I told you you were being too sluggish in not putting Ike above Ness and Pokemon Trainer!
Hist
Smash Cadet
Agreed.
BTW !!!
Found something out right now, if fox gets a dair in the face at around 20%-30% He can still recover when he is spiked down ward.
My face when this happend : http://myfacewhen.com/181/
Mr. Doom
Smash Hero
Did you or did you not try those b-throw to dash attack setups on standing CPUs?
I just looked until it went to tumble, and tried it a few times when I turned CPU on They might be able to act out, but testing on CPU that specifically is kind of annoying.
Only played around with it enough to tell that stale bthrow works until much higher %s. In match, if you've already used bthrow a few times, bthrow-> dash attack might work 5-10% higher than normal, so don't be afraid to bthrow at higher percents.
Only played around with it enough to tell that stale bthrow works until much higher %s. In match, if you've already used bthrow a few times, bthrow-> dash attack might work 5-10% higher than normal, so don't be afraid to bthrow at higher percents.
Tech-Nelium the Shark
Smash Ace
I just wanted to put this up here in case it is possible for Ike to do anything to him. This was for snake boards but it might be possible with other characters to have options.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDCRKc7tMPQ#t=50s
Hey look, it's a good Tales game that's never coming to the US. :[
Hey look, it's a good Tales game that's never coming to the US. :[
theeboredone
Smash Legend
Wtf? Why not just shoot a kamehameha and end it all? Freaking unnecessary fighting.
Edit: Totally random, but while reading my childhood development book, a study showed that in the US 1/10 women smoke while pregnant. In another, specifically in England, the rate is 1/4th. British Boy, I need an explanation on why London women are so...smoky.
Edit: Totally random, but while reading my childhood development book, a study showed that in the US 1/10 women smoke while pregnant. In another, specifically in England, the rate is 1/4th. British Boy, I need an explanation on why London women are so...smoky.
YagamiLight
Smash Champion
I, on the other hand, will accept an explanation as to why they are so ugly.
Nysyarc
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You guys ask too much, I'll settle for an explanation of why they exist at all.
Teh Brettster
Smash Master
Oh mai. This would be really awesome. Grab release to Utilt would work, I hope. I have to see for myself now.
Yeah, this was one of my first "real" pieces to play and it's one of Rach's most popular (sadly so, because also one of his less complex IMO) pieces. I think most people play it too metronomically.
Every once in a while when I'm in a rough spot, I whip it out and re-learn it again for Hulk mode (takes a day to re-learn each time + BANG BANG = efficient choice).
Heartstring
Smash Legend
i've only been to london a few time4s, and yes i agree that they are all pretty pointless.You guys ask too much, I'll settle for an explanation of why they exist at all.
however the smoking thing...
you probably know by now that the uk has its own equilivent to wiggers, and they are chavs (or neds to scottish people) its a well known fact that if you are a chav, you MUST smoke at all times, this include the pregnant 13y.o chav girls who get pregnant just for the child benefits (srs)
london is so overrun with them, that 25% ios pretty much all them (i think)
the same ones are the ugly ones, and they have no reason in life either.
i have to live with these abominations being everywhere. lord save me
theeboredone
Smash Legend
Actually, the research showed adults had a 25% rate of pregnant women smoking...teenagers were higher. But that does sound pretty bad...these "Chavs" as you like to call them.
Heartstring
Smash Legend
they are literally scum of the earth. i could go on with the stereotype, but that there was enough
Slaps
Smash Lord
The band of a school from England came to NY last year to play at Carnegie hall when I was in NY playing there and a lot of the girls were not ugly XD
lol darn school banned youtube DX ill have to edit it in later XD haha
lol darn school banned youtube DX ill have to edit it in later XD haha
Mr. Doom
Smash Hero
I might upload another video soon about QD. >_> Someone asked a question about 0 lag if QD is canceled onto the ground correctly, and my best explanation is through a video.
theeboredone
Smash Legend
Needs more Hermione...
I've seriously been pondering on using foot stool more often. Certain opponent that comes to mind is how ROB can simply up-air our edge hanging D-air attempt. Rather, I think it would take them by surprise to simply fall on them and foot stool. Granted they have a great recovery, but it may put them on a bit of panic.
Can you foot stool Pit's recovery? Just wanted to make sure.
I've seriously been pondering on using foot stool more often. Certain opponent that comes to mind is how ROB can simply up-air our edge hanging D-air attempt. Rather, I think it would take them by surprise to simply fall on them and foot stool. Granted they have a great recovery, but it may put them on a bit of panic.
Can you foot stool Pit's recovery? Just wanted to make sure.
Mr. Doom
Smash Hero
As long as Pit has his blue wings out, he cannot be foot-stooled.
Heartstring
Smash Legend
also be warned, if you hit pit out of his up-b within the first 10ish frames (not quite sure how long it lasts) he can still do it again.
r.o.b is generally an asswipe to try and edguard, the point of edgeguarding a r.o.b is less trying to gimp him and more trying to rack damage.
but both of these two have this wierd thing that means their recovery isnt refreshed when the grab the edge, a.k.a, r.o.b can only 'refuel' when onstage, and if pit grbas the edge while in up-b, if he tries to drop off the edge and do it again, the time he can do it is 'max normal time-time spent in blue wings before grabbing the edge' and this effect stacks too, so as long as you keep them off the stage rather than off the ledge, you can deal with edgeguarding them, jsut read the getup with r.o.b and youre cooking by gas
r.o.b is generally an asswipe to try and edguard, the point of edgeguarding a r.o.b is less trying to gimp him and more trying to rack damage.
but both of these two have this wierd thing that means their recovery isnt refreshed when the grab the edge, a.k.a, r.o.b can only 'refuel' when onstage, and if pit grbas the edge while in up-b, if he tries to drop off the edge and do it again, the time he can do it is 'max normal time-time spent in blue wings before grabbing the edge' and this effect stacks too, so as long as you keep them off the stage rather than off the ledge, you can deal with edgeguarding them, jsut read the getup with r.o.b and youre cooking by gas
Mr. Doom
Smash Hero
theeboredone
Smash Legend
Wow, total fail at :59. Good stuff lol.
•Col•
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Im pretty sure you can footstool him, but it wont send him into free-fall... Its kind of like when you footstool MK when he's using tornado.
You jump up, but he isnt affected at all.
Mr. Doom
Smash Hero
^ This. Plus the fact that I can't word anything correctly. >_>
Heartstring
Smash Legend
lol, meta knight challenge.
uk has a similar thing, 3v1, the team of 3 all use ganon and suicide their first stock. and then lulz ensues
uk has a similar thing, 3v1, the team of 3 all use ganon and suicide their first stock. and then lulz ensues
metroid1117
Smash Master
Are you supposed to just survive as long as possible?
Melee had the Bowser Challenge... 3 Bowsers vs 1 person on Fountain of Dreams, team attack OFF and you were supposed to take off as many stocks as possible.
Mr. Doom
Smash Hero
That's the basic idea.
The snake jokingly said that he could take on all three of us if we went MK, so we took him on his offer. The funny thing is that he actually took off two stocks. Join "The SD Club" today.
The snake jokingly said that he could take on all three of us if we went MK, so we took him on his offer. The funny thing is that he actually took off two stocks. Join "The SD Club" today.
