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Ike Boards General/Q&A Thread

theeboredone

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You might as well just get Homebrew/Gecko OS, it makes everything so much easier. A simple google search usually does the trick for finding a download, and having a Mac or PC makes no difference since your computer is only acting as an intermediary for the files.

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Actually, if you have a Mac, there is no current program that manages mp3 conversion to brstm, and stores them on your sd card to boot.

Niddo, I doubt there's a homebrew for the latest firmware...you're gonna have to like Nys said, google.

Though on the plus side, once you get it all working, there is a Mac program for managing games on your external via USB loader.
 

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You've just got to get him off-stage and take advantage of his bad recovery by making good reads. Fox's recovery isn't too great as it is and Falco is just Fox with a shorter range upB and no Shine-stalling. Also, avoiding Falco's kill moves isn't too difficult since his only really reliable one is Usmash; as long as you're aware of his DACUS range and whether or not that particular player likes to use it for KOs, you're set.

You do have to watch out for his jab, but it's not much better than your own and if he likes to jab a lot, just space him with aerials and he'll eventually start camping. Then the patience game begins while you just need to repeatedly approach and try to take as little damage as possible before you can bait a mistake from him. Falco has to approach you in order to KO, and most Falco's will try to approach with SHL or SHDL (which your DA can go under to punish).

The chaingrab in my opinion isn't too much of a threat to us aside from the damage racking, because we can easily meteor cancel the spike high enough to land on-stage with Aether even at around 50% damage. Just be careful of some Falco players who like to go for a footstool after you meteor cancel and before you can Aether.

It is an uphill battle for Ike, no doubt about that, but it's far from un-winnable due to his recovery being basically as bad as ours and his lack of safe/unpredictable KO moves.


Actually, if you have a Mac, there is no current program that manages mp3 conversion to brstm, and stores them on your sd card to boot.
Oh I know, I just meant for downloading the files necessary for Homebrew/GeckoOS and transferring them to your SD card. I was able to that through my Mac.

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Ya, I can just download the music already in brstm format and throw it in there. It's more about finding a Homebrew/Gecko OS that will work. I need both of those, don't I? Do I have to play the game through homebrew to get the different music?
 

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Ya, I can just download the music already in brstm format and throw it in there. It's more about finding a Homebrew/Gecko OS that will work. I need both of those, don't I? Do I have to play the game through homebrew to get the different music?
Yah, essentially you'll load up the Homebrew channel from the Wii menu, open the GeckoOS application within Homebrew, and then launch Brawl through GeckoOS. This launches the game via the SD card rather than the disc itself, allowing custom music/textures/whatever.

I forget what the site was that I found Homebrew and GeckoOS downloads from, otherwise I would link you. But it basically has to still exist somewhere, and if you find a Homebrew download, there's a very good chance the same site will have a download for GeckoOS.

If not, you can download the Homebrew Browser application for Homebrew, and then launch that through Homebrew on your Wii. You can then find all kinds of different Homebrew applications including the latest GeckoOS and Cheat Manager, and download them directly to your SD card from your Wii, meaning you can use them right away without having to go through your computer.


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I'll take no viruses and cheaper OS upgrades (obviously talking about changes equivalent to XP -> Vista) over a more popular brand. I also don't have to deal with Vista ever existing on my computer and the company claiming it's actually good. :laugh:
 

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I'll take no viruses and cheaper OS upgrades (obviously talking about changes equivalent to XP -> Vista) over a more popular brand. I also don't have to deal with Vista ever existing on my computer and the company claiming it's actually good. :laugh:
A solid anti-virus application will effectively shield you from computer infection to a very high degree. And it isn't like people don't develop viruses for the Apple OS; it's simply that since 90% of the people use Windows -> 90% of the malware is on Windows. Plus most of the people infected by spyware are fairly foolish. "Porn.exe" is probably not a good thing to download and click on.

And the relative cheapness of the OS is a bit of a moot point considering that you can probably find a excellent copy of Windows 7 online.

The downsides of a Mac outweigh the benefits, to be honest.

But Linux is better than both!
 

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So what are these downsides of a Mac? The only things that come to mind is price and limitations on gaming and customization in general. However, it's not hard to get a Hackintosh where the specs can easily be beefed up for a reasonable price.

Windows Vista was definitely a dark time for Microsoft. My old XP laptop finally fave out after 5 years, and because I didn't want to deal with Vista, I got a Mac instead. Love it, enjoy it, and have found plenty of uses for it.

And torrenting Windows 7 is not a justification for cheapness, because that's not what the majority go by when upgrading.
 

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A good anti-virus costs more money that you need to add to the price tag of your Windows computer. And it's more like somewhere between 75% and 80% of people use Windows as their OS, not 90%. 90% was a while ago.

While there are less video games for Mac (and as already pointed out: easy to get around), Macs tend to be the preferred platform for arts based stuff, such as music and movie making, though I don't know why seeing as I don't look for those types of programs. >_> I do know that the default media stuff on Mac > default media stuff on Windows however.

You can also get a Mac for quite cheap actually, if you already have a keyboard, monitor, and mouse you like: just buy one of those Mini-Mac things...forget the exact name. IIRC, they cost about $500. Not comparing apples to apples here (lol stealth pun), but it does prove that not every option to get a new Mac is an expensive one.

A slightly different, funny note: apparently, according to Best Buy, they have lost 1/3 of their PC sales to the iPad. And I thought that thing was going to flop. :laugh:
 

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Mac products will never flop because of their fanboys and fangirls. They are all a pile of crap.

And actually Niddo, AVG is a free Anti-Virus program that works really well. You will rarely (by rarely, I mean never) get a virus with that program running. However, the problem I see with anti-virus and anti-spyware programs is that unless you have a good computer, it's gonna suck up a lot of memory while you try to run other programs. Since I don't have to worry about having an anti-virus program running on my Mac, it allows me to run multiple programs at once without worrying about any slow down.
 

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I've heard of AVG, I thought it would have been nearly as bad as Norton by now, seeing as I saw it a good 7 years ago. Free/cheap programs often get worked around the easiest. I know Norton was worthless the short while we had a PC: ran checks often and still got a virus within a month...while visiting Addicting Games, Armor Games, and GameFAQs. That was it, I was the only one who really used that computer. >_>

However, I had forgotten about the slowing down of the computer by having the program open.
 

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So what are these downsides of a Mac? The only things that come to mind is price and limitations on gaming and customization in general. However, it's not hard to get a Hackintosh where the specs can easily be beefed up for a reasonable price.

Windows Vista was definitely a dark time for Microsoft. My old XP laptop finally fave out after 5 years, and because I didn't want to deal with Vista, I got a Mac instead. Love it, enjoy it, and have found plenty of uses for it.

And torrenting Windows 7 is not a justification for cheapness, because that's not what the majority go by when upgrading.
- You act as if a system that costs 1.5x as much as its counterparts (not to mention more rigid as well) isn't really that big of a deal. Granted, a Hackintosh avoids the issues somewhat but the fact remains that Apple computers are expensive and their parts are expensive.

- Vista was super bad. Won't see me denying that (then again I'm no MS fanboy so I call it like it is). Thing is, though, XP (and now Win 7) are very solid operating systems. They are both fast (enough) and are (in the case of Win7) very pleasant to look at.

- Just because the majority doesn't take a route doesn't mean it isn't a valid route to take. See: Hackintosh example. While I'm on the subject of torrents I'd like to add that the torrent clients for the Mac suck. Trust me, I spent hours trying to find a good one on my old MacBook.

A good anti-virus costs more money that you need to add to the price tag of your Windows computer. And it's more like somewhere between 75% and 80% of people use Windows as their OS, not 90%. 90% was a while ago.

While there are less video games for Mac (and as already pointed out: easy to get around), Macs tend to be the preferred platform for arts based stuff, such as music and movie making, though I don't know why seeing as I don't look for those types of programs. >_> I do know that the default media stuff on Mac > default media stuff on Windows however.

You can also get a Mac for quite cheap actually, if you already have a keyboard, monitor, and mouse you like: just buy one of those Mini-Mac things...forget the exact name. IIRC, they cost about $500. Not comparing apples to apples here (lol stealth pun), but it does prove that not every option to get a new Mac is an expensive one.

A slightly different, funny note: apparently, according to Best Buy, they have lost 1/3 of their PC sales to the iPad. And I thought that thing was going to flop. :laugh:
- The best anti-virus programs are the ones with an MSRP of zero. Microsoft's official anti-malware program is actually NOT a steaming pile, much to my surprise. And most of them are lightweight, to be honest. They don't require many resources.

- The default stuff on Windows blows. Again, I don't deny this sort of thing. Windows has many more programs that you can download and use to customize the computer thanks to the larger user base, naturally. And I guess the 'arts and music' image is sort of due to Macs being 'more liberal' than other computers, as if one metallic case can be more liberal than another, haha.

- If you already have a keyboard, monitor and mouse you can build a PC for like 300 dollars, lol. Won't be a GOOD PC but it'll still have better specs than the Mac Mini. My sister had one of those (before it broke randomly) and it was ridiculously underpowered. But it looked nice, so I guess I can see why she liked it.

- As far as the iPad goes, it had no chance of flopping. Mac fanatics wouldn't permit that sort of thing. That said, I used an iPad a while ago and was impressed by it. Still too expensive for my tastes but I may look into it later.




Just to reiterate my take on this: I don't think Macs are a bad choice if you don't mind shelling out extra cash for the sake of simplicity (and if all you're going to do is listen to iTunes, go ahead!) but I figure that the rigidity of the Mac platform makes it look less appealing than Windows and much less appealing than Linux. I've tried to use Linux several times, however, and it lacks that 'It just works!' feel that PCs and Macs have, so I'm sort of bummed out. Even the mainstream Linux stuff like Fedora or Ubuntu needs a ton of customization that you wouldn't even think twice about on a more mainstream platform.
 

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Nyke you have no idea how hard it was last night, out of the 20+ games we played i only beat him a few, it was really hard yo. Its easy for you to say that but this was seriously the most trouble I have ever had with falco, it was so impossibly hard to do anything. Pretty much the only way to get through was to get either a jab off or read him illusioning past me. It was soooo difficult.

Also, PC>Mac.. That is all.
 

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- You act as if a system that costs 1.5x as much as its counterparts (not to mention more rigid as well) isn't really that big of a deal. Granted, a Hackintosh avoids the issues somewhat but the fact remains that Apple computers are expensive and their parts are expensive.

- Vista was super bad. Won't see me denying that (then again I'm no MS fanboy so I call it like it is). Thing is, though, XP (and now Win 7) are very solid operating systems. They are both fast (enough) and are (in the case of Win7) very pleasant to look at.

- Just because the majority doesn't take a route doesn't mean it isn't a valid route to take. See: Hackintosh example. While I'm on the subject of torrents I'd like to add that the torrent clients for the Mac suck. Trust me, I spent hours trying to find a good one on my old MacBook.
1. First of all, the Mac OS runs way more smoother than 7. People scoff when they see a Macbook with only 2 GB of ram, but in reality, the OS does not need that much ram to run smoothly to begin with. The minimum requirement is 2 GB. For a Snow Leopard it's 1 GB. I find it funny when those PC ads had people saying, "Oh, my PC has 4 GB of ram". Well that's because you need that much just to run close in performance to OSX. Put 4GB of memory on a Mac, and you got a powerhouse in terms of arts and visuals programs. So honestly, I don't mind dishing out the money for parts that are "lesser", but still perform much better as a whole than a PC at that price.

2. Windows7 is good, but still buggy. My friend who builds computers and is a tech always complains about how the 64bit Windows 7 is still buggy. It's still gonna be a while before everything starts running smoothly.

3. Ever heard of Transmission? It's so legit. Me and a bunch of friends use that as a torrent client...

Oh and on my Windows XP Bootcamp, I can run Fallout 3, Borderlands, and Dragon Age on medium settings no problem xP. Also could play SC2 on Medium settings as well. So basically...I'm satisfied when it comes to gaming.
 

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2 pages ago for me. Didn't feel like searching through spam and drama. Thx though, lurker powers activate.
 

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So much text, didn't read. That counts as signs of drama/things I don't care about to me.
 

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I read the Mac vs PC debate
because unlike San, I love that kind of stuff
and then this made my day.

Mac vs PC arguments are like religious debates. At the end of the day, we all go home with the same stubborn point of view we had when we started. That said, I've never met a single person who legitimately switched to a Mac and missed their PC, and I know a lot of people who've switched to a Mac. People are just really devoted to their PCs and refuse to try anything else (likely for cost reasons).


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i use macs for my animation class in school and its so fuggin impossible to navigate around.. its rediculous, why must they change the keyboard just for their computer? Why can't they make macs a type of computer or make an OS rather than making you get all this different **** for it. But honestly i don't care that much since im always gonna have a PC
 

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I dislike Macs because I had to go through hell for 2 years to use one for a Lit. Mag. class.
There's just TOO MANY subtle differences between PCs and Macs, and I'm far too lazy to learn a bunch of new commands for a computer-type I will never own.
 

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i use macs for my animation class in school and its so fuggin impossible to navigate around.. its rediculous, why must they change the keyboard just for their computer?
What kind of Mac are you using? My laptop and iMac both have a keyboard that's basically identical to a PC keyboard. Literally the only differences are: command instead of Windows key and the 'Enter' key is called 'Return'... and of course no number pad on my laptop.

And the layout of the screen is essentially exactly the same too... just the minimize/close boxes for an open window are in the top left instead of the top right. I still use my old PC once in awhile, and I have no problem adjusting instantly between the two interfaces.

tl;dr L 2 adapt to tiny changes.


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Well...at least Nys is on the ball. Good stuff.
You're still no fun, though. :p

@Bored: We need friendlies at HOBO. I wanna fight some Ike without campin'.
 

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1. First of all, the Mac OS runs way more smoother than 7. People scoff when they see a Macbook with only 2 GB of ram, but in reality, the OS does not need that much ram to run smoothly to begin with. The minimum requirement is 2 GB. For a Snow Leopard it's 1 GB. I find it funny when those PC ads had people saying, "Oh, my PC has 4 GB of ram". Well that's because you need that much just to run close in performance to OSX. Put 4GB of memory on a Mac, and you got a powerhouse in terms of arts and visuals programs. So honestly, I don't mind dishing out the money for parts that are "lesser", but still perform much better as a whole than a PC at that price.

2. Windows7 is good, but still buggy. My friend who builds computers and is a tech always complains about how the 64bit Windows 7 is still buggy. It's still gonna be a while before everything starts running smoothly.

3. Ever heard of Transmission? It's so legit. Me and a bunch of friends use that as a torrent client...

Oh and on my Windows XP Bootcamp, I can run Fallout 3, Borderlands, and Dragon Age on medium settings no problem xP. Also could play SC2 on Medium settings as well. So basically...I'm satisfied when it comes to gaming.
Was waiting for a response from Niddo but I guess I'll answer these points now.

- The OS might not use as much memory but applications like Photoshop love the stuff and, while the memory management of a Mac is more efficient, I would much rather take the 4GB of a PC than the 2 GB of a Mac. Plus there is plenty of room for upgrading in a PC, where the sky (read: your wallet) is the limit. Macs are very rigid in how much you can customize them, especially with RAM limits. If I wanted to right now I could make my PC have like 32 GB of RAM. Most Macs have a max of like 4GB or 8GB.

- All software is buggy. Apple OS has a ton of bugs, crashes and errors. I owned a MacBook for a year and a half (before I gave it to my sister) and quite honestly it crashed more than my current PC has.

- Transmission was pretty legit but it didn't come close to uTorrent, or at least that's how I felt.

I read the Mac vs PC debate
because unlike San, I love that kind of stuff
and then this made my day.

Mac vs PC arguments are like religious debates. At the end of the day, we all go home with the same stubborn point of view we had when we started. That said, I've never met a single person who legitimately switched to a Mac and missed their PC, and I know a lot of people who've switched to a Mac. People are just really devoted to their PCs and refuse to try anything else (likely for cost reasons).


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I used a Mac for a year and a half and, while I appreciated the finer points, some of the aspects just didn't please me. I've tried numerous Windows versions, numerous Linux distros, quite a few Mac OSes. None of them really please me on all counts (ease of use, flexibility, style, speed) but I'm going to wait 3 years or so for my PC to become ancient before I try a Mac again. Plus I need to save up the cash. Stuff is even more expensive than I though, haha.
 

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So, normally I'd just wait and see how long it took you guys to notice the new postbit icons, but I'm too excited. So I'll just tell you (again):

There's new postbit icons!


Edit: Just realized Light may be the only other regular here inclined to celebrate with me at the moment. Gain access to some user groups guys!

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lol, new postbits, its funny how the most trivial of things can mak people at least seem excited
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posting to see if i have any >.<

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