Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vayne and trist still turn into hyper carries late game.

Just gotta work with that landing phase.

 

[MrEh]

The problem with Vayne in solo queue is that the facebreaker supports that she goes well with are usually banned, such as Alistar. If Vayne and her support can't flat out kill you to get ahead, the laning phase is gonna be rough for her. The rise of Ezreal and Corki makes this even more difficult nowadays as well, since they're a lot harder to catch.

Unless you can somehow get a kill or you have constant help from your jungle, it's difficult to keep up as Vayne during laning. You get bullied easily and it's hard to get stuff done.

And of course, if you somehow get to late game, you roll around and kill everyone. That's pretty difficult in solo queue though, since teams are less organized and will do a poor job protecting you compared to an organized team.

I saw your name in my user cp and got really hyped for another cheesy video. Sad face.

Maybe soon...

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Most if my games hit late game or end early.

No in between.

 

[MrEh]

Choose Twitch. Game is over at champ select.

*snicker*

 

[Lovage]

MEH vayne has always been good

limited by how bad people are is all

 

[DMG]

Well also limited by having to lane vs gay stuff early on.

 

[Asdioh]

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30253565#30253565 linked to the most interesting post I've seen so far in this thread
if supports can actually start making gold that should open up more viable supports and make supporting less frustrating

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=30263557#30263557

What a shock, Sona nerfs incoming.

 

[Asdioh]

man, i feel like not long ago people were saying janna >>> sona.
but that was before janna was nerfed and sona was buffed. Did that global cooldown reduction on sona push her over the edge or what?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Sucks since I was a Sona player when people said she was worthless, oh well needs to happen, her poke ability is a tad too good with the CD reductions she got.

 

[Lovage]

supporting is supposed to be frustrating thats the point of the game

 

[Asdioh]

supporting is supposed to be frustrating thats the point of the game

 

[Faithkeeper]

Why can't all supports be as relevant as sona instead of lessening sona's impact?

 

[Pluvia]

Really need to do something about leavers. I don't know why you can't just surrender fast when it's 3v5.

 

[Vyke]

Really need to do something about leavers. I don't know why you can't just surrender fast when it's 3v5.

Be happy that you can surrender at all!

 

[victra♥]

^yeah its a real annoyance. Even 4v5 is silly and is usually a lose before the game even begins.

 

[Ussi]

The problem is Sona is good at laning and in teamfights. Other supports are good in laning phase or good in team fights.. Not both like Sona

Though you can say Alistar, Blitzcrank, and Leona except the first two are banned and Leona gets poked down by Sona really hard.

i was reading through that thread and Morello said AP Lulu will not be rebuffed to be viable ;_;

 

[victra♥]

Ali, Blitz and Taric are pretty good.

But that crescendo changes games man

 

[Teh Brettster]

I've never understood why her ult's name is Crescendo. Other than the fact that it's louder than the rest of her abilities. In which case, it would make sense to call it sforzando or fortissimo.
How about fermata because it holds people still?

Dumb naming choice.

 

[Pluvia]

On a different note, someone awarded me with honor for teamwork. Never knew this even existed, I need to hand it out more.

 

[victra♥]

Isn't the crescendo literally a crescendo? It's not so much just a load sudden burst of sound like sforzando or fortissimo. I can't imagine it atm but I always thought that it built up and faded.

fermata is clever but even though theyre "still" they're grooving out haha

 

[Ussi]

Ali, Blitz and Taric are pretty good.

But that crescendo changes games man

Taric isn't outstanding late game like Lulu, Janna, Sona and Alistar. Taric stuns a person then empowers his team with fabulousness by pressing W + R.

 

[Pluvia]

I got awarded again! Aw yeah, I love my Alistar, and I'm glad people are noticing I put the team first by using him.

 

[Jazriel]

Played a couple of games. Played top lane, remembered why I don't like this game anymore. Udyr 3 shotting you at level 2, so much fun playing without jungler support.

 

[Zero_Gamer]

How do I contact customer service? I bought Commando Garen a long time ago, but I can't select it now. It's probably been like this for a while, but I haven't noticed until now because he blows chodes and I never pick him.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Why can't all supports be as relevant as sona instead of lessening sona's impact?

Honestly, supports as an archtype are really really powerful, at least in my opinion.

Like, look at how much damage sona puts out early game, look at the how many bot lanes get 1-shoted by taric or ali level 2 if they're with a partner that can put out damage.

I'm oversimplifying I know, but I think supports pretty much define the conditions of what you can't in laning phase because they're the ones with initiation, the laning phase partner defines what happens if you make a mistake as defined by their lane opponent but you're taking a lot of damage from anyone when you're cc'd for 2 seconds.

Those that don't initiate, instead have other equally broken factors, like sona's heal which when it's leveled becomes strong enough that she'll heal off any trade.


And the other thing is since this archtype tends to bring long-term value that generally doesn't require gold to scale (or simply requires very little) it's very difficult to actually shut supports down.




I dunno, this is a reletively uneducated prospective, but I think that supports could do with some across the board nerfs.

 

[Lovage]

dont nerf supports buff everything else, unless you want a ****ty game

 

[voorhese]

I heard that riot wants to eliminate adc taking all the creep, and making supports HAVE to have cs to work.

 

[Scamp]

I heard that riot wants to eliminate adc taking all the creep, and making supports HAVE to have cs to work.

I don't think this is true. But let's just say it is.

The only way to make ADCs not take all the creep is to make it so the ADCs aren't the most powerful characters when farmed. If supports have to get farm to work they're going to take it from somewhere else.

But in theory, the only way to change this is to add some other means of farming. GP5 items and runes can be considered an example of that. But anyway, right now there's 4 places to farm and 5 characters on a team. Supports have always been the character that can do the most without any items.

 

[adumbrodeus]

dont nerf supports buff everything else, unless you want a ****ty game

Buff all the top laners?

Jesus christ *runs for the hills*

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I heard that riot wants to eliminate adc taking all the creep, and making supports HAVE to have cs to work.

From what I read Morello said in general, they are making more alternative ways for supports to gain gold.

~

On a personal note, what do you do vs anivia post 6, it's really hard when he just presses R and pushes it hard.

 

[Okuser]

I am now the highest elo smasher muahaha.

I'm going to bed, but tomorrow if anybody wants help with their AD, support or toplane add me and I'll play a couple games with you and do some free coaching.

 

[Ussi]

I'll take you up on that

 

[Player-3]

teach me how to blitzcrank

 

[Sinister Slush]

I'd bother with maybe top and AD. But I haven't been able to play a decent game on this computer since the release of Hecarim.

 

[Ussi]

I hope it doesn't ruin Hecarim jungle cause i'm loving Hecarim jungle.

Also do you deal with Shaco jungle as a tanky jungler?

 

[Teh Brettster]

I'm the world's worst jungler.

I'd lose a whole game for my team if I went into the jungle at 500 elo.

And I can't learn how to jungle because I'm likely to find myself in the tribunal if I try.


Guess I'll just mid Kat every game for the rest of my life on League.

 

[adumbrodeus]

I'm worse then you at jungling, lol


It's wierd, because as a midlaner I love roaming, but I can't seem to properly balance farming and ganking.

 

[Boofy!]

MOGWAIIIIII

dude thats excellent, seriously, idk what the position entails but Riot is only going up. Amazing opportunity, big congrats.

#late

 

[ShroudedOne]

Nah, I'm worse at jungling than both of you.

It's hard to have one of those games where the enemy jungle has been out 3 times, and you've only been out once, but you've got camps up, and lanes are never quite ready for ganks (pushed up to enemy tower) and then team blames you for never ganking, etc. etc. etc. (and they don't respond to ganks well)

About to just start going Annie again and exploding things.