Grand Old Thread: League of Legends!

[Teh Brettster]

I'm worse then you at jungling, lol


It's wierd, because as a midlaner I love roaming, but I can't seem to properly balance farming and ganking.

The perfect response to this post for me would actually be to just copy/paste it back at you.


Edit: We need to go to jungling school, guys.

 

[JTB]

Stop being so scared of jungling and just do it, watch streams if you don't know how to gank

 

[adumbrodeus]

I used to jungle a lot actually, I just gradually realized I sucked at it.


Here's the thing, beyond the simple balance thing, being aware of when lanes are gankable by a given jungler is really difficult for me or when the enemy team is gonna gank.

As midlane I just feel powerful enough to just force it, and maybe that's because I've been play ap eve mainly when I got on this roaming mid binge, but it's also easier to realize when a lane is gankable because when you clear a lane you don't have to worry about going to the next jungle camp so it's easier to check the lanes.

Probably an issue of being bad at multitasking and just something I need to work on.

 

[What's The Point]

Top is always gankable unless he's at full health on his tower. Nobody ever wards the lane so you can go from lane brushes if needed.

For bot ask where the enemy warded. Generally lanes don't get warded unless your lane is already winning. If you are blue and the enemy warded river and lane just go somewhere else.

Mid is always gankable but it's a short lane. Just go in once, use no summoners but make your enemy use theirs. Then walk our of lane but just wait in the brush for like 15 seconds then go kill him. Mids rarely have both sides warded so just know which side they warded.

Early on skip double golems unless you have smite. They do alot of damage.

Never use a summoners spell unless it garuntees a kill. Jungle flash/exhaust is more imortant than your enemy's flash.

Worst case just ping a lot and run at enemies. Either your teammates come or you zone the enemy for a bit then leave.

 

[Skadorski]

If you have problems ganking I'd pick derp-easy gankers like Nautilus, Maokai, or Skarner (personal opinion).
Also don't worry about guaranteed kills since even wasting a flash or ult will help out your lane a lot and could possibly push the enemy out of lane.

 

[JTB]

Generally if you gank mid very early, you can force a free flash. Go farm a camp, then come back and gank again for the kill

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why do people not ward top?

A lane where you are effectively an island.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Top is always gankable unless he's at full health on his tower. Nobody ever wards the lane so you can go from lane brushes if needed.

For bot ask where the enemy warded. Generally lanes don't get warded unless your lane is already winning. If you are blue and the enemy warded river and lane just go somewhere else.

Mid is always gankable but it's a short lane. Just go in once, use no summoners but make your enemy use theirs. Then walk our of lane but just wait in the brush for like 15 seconds then go kill him. Mids rarely have both sides warded so just know which side they warded.

Early on skip double golems unless you have smite. They do alot of damage.

Never use a summoners spell unless it garuntees a kill. Jungle flash/exhaust is more imortant than your enemy's flash.

Worst case just ping a lot and run at enemies. Either your teammates come or you zone the enemy for a bit then leave.

Apparently my normal elo is higher then yours, top usually gets warded after their first back.

Mid it's a toss-up if any given bush is warded.

 

[What's The Point]

I mean lane wards. A ward in their lane brushes. River, sometimes tri, is always warded.

Unless the jungler is also warding mid will rarely have both.sides warded. You or the mid should know where he warded.

If you don't know where a ward is try to gank. If they obviously see you then you know where the ward is.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Oh alright, then your comments make a lot more sense about every lane I mean.

 

[Pluvia]

What does AD carry mean?

 

[Raziek]

Attack Damage Carry. Ranged pew pews. Ez, Ashe, mf, etc

 

[ToferTheHuman]

I had a question about Fiddlesticks.
I was wondering if he is better played as a jungler or mid lane?

 

[Raziek]

Jungle. Middle sticks is pretty meh.

He's also an alright support, fear and silence are pretty strong. Needs items though, which is why you don't see it super often.

 

[Pluvia]

Thanks.

Also I'm still a bit iffy on what exactly Junglers do.

 

[Deleted member]

Thanks.

Also I'm still a bit iffy on what exactly Junglers do.

If you're on skype I can run you through all the basic/intermediate stuff if you want.

edit: to give a more direct answer, Junglers roam around the map and try to score kills for the team by ganking any of the 3 lanes

 

[victra♥]

Yeah junglers farm what they can in the jungle, secure buffs, roam, and gank the lanes.

Typically from what i've noticed, junglers usually opt for gp10 items to make up for how little farm they get. They're usually on the tankier side with heavy cc to give kills to their lanes.

I like playing the support role so typically feel like another support when I jungle.

 

[ToferTheHuman]

I have tried jungling a few times, and I love it, it's like I am playing a completely different game.

 

[Vyke]

I think the real big question is this: Will Mogwai use Pantheon or Jarvan as his red avatar on the GD?

 

[Asdioh]

I think the real big question is this: Will Mogwai use Pantheon or Jarvan as his red avatar on the GD?

if it's not Pantheon I don't even

 

[JTB]

dream team lets go hit plat sometime this week mmmmm

 

[adumbrodeus]

A jarvan vs pantheon avatar!

 

[ToferTheHuman]

Jarman, of course.

 

[S l o X]

nunuuuuuuuuuuuu

 

[Ussi]

Darius cause thats what game him to his elo

 

[Lovage]

middlesticks ***** 100:0 matchup with vlad

 

[Ussi]

Win lane, lose game

 

[Deleted member]

Jungle. Middle sticks is pretty meh.

He's also an alright support, fear and silence are pretty strong. Needs items though, which is why you don't see it super often.

fiddle usually sucks at laning but he is arguably vlads hardest counter

 

[adumbrodeus]

Vlad doesn't strike me as a ridiculously difficult character to counter laning phase.


Honestly, the issue I see with middlesticks more then anything else is his low pushing power, putting him in the same category as leblanc.

 

[Vyke]

Swain is totally a better counter. Two DoTs instead of one! zomg ravens > crows

 

[adumbrodeus]

I like Vyke's thought process, ravens da best.

 

[victra♥]

that's so ravens

 

[Zero_Gamer]

You could say his laning is ensnaring.

You might say his ult is straight murder.

You could say his kit is really lame.

You might say all his enemies will be Swain.

 

[adumbrodeus]

Zero_gamer, worst puns NA

 

[Zero_Gamer]

I bring swift punishment.

Oh, please give me more puns. I get my rocks off to them.

 

[Mogwai]

I think the real big question is this: Will Mogwai use Pantheon or Jarvan as his red avatar on the GD?

If at all possible, it will be this:

 

[Saki-]

X The Derp is king of worst puns.

 

[Dekar173]

All I got from that is swain is lame.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Middlesticks is just a different variant of Leblanc, Strong CP potential, some stupid hard MUs in return.

Though giving credit his push via E is far better than what Leblanc can attempt.

 

[Vyke]

What? Leblanc can W - > R and wave is gone. Don't even argue her 20 second cooldown on ult, either. >:C

@Mogwai: Should be Dragonslayer Jarvan /w Charmander face shooped on.