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The main one I remember is Lucien down threw Hax, Hax missed the tech on purpose, Lucien tried to jab reset him, Hax did the hit up and jump trick thing to escape and you were like "Falcon has x number of frames to press up and z number of frames to hold up after x percent".
I'll get you next time, Oscar!
<333333 ty brosShoutout to Lovage winning the Big house! Great to see you man.
Though, didn't get to play any singles games
have you played me yet??? I draw the whole tournament place to watch my matches, :D
Waveshine oos using the c stick is really, really, easy. Like it is arguably easier than learning to SH out of shine. It's really just a timing thing like links in traditional fighters, doesn't really require any speed whatsoever. That and I'm new to fox, and haven't played people much, just grinding tech skill for the moment.I don't see how you would be good enough to reliably use waveshine oos but not know what to do after waveshine lol.
What got you ***** in the first match was that you didn't hit him with your shine once. You had so, so many oppurtunities, like shield pressure or after an aerial on him at low %. Aerials put him on the ground, which is a bad place for anyone. You did this more in match 3 (didn't want any other matches than these, I don't have the time) and therefore it was closer.
1. This is the only negative I can forsee, but even then you're looking at a trade at worst (assuming they up and then attack asap) bc fox is fast enuff to just nair in space or put out some hitbox
omfg i remember i read your post and i coulda swore i pressed "multiquote" LOL -.-
best stage: stadium - transformations **** her, you can't get up+b'd to dsmashed on the small platforms, she dies really early
i only skimmed thru ur set with johnny but the biggest mistake i saw was never using nair -> bair on his shield, it's infinitely better than nair -> shine for like 8/10 situations, the other 2 situations is where you actually have to use your brain and do like 6 different things really well
Are you holding the C-stick to buffer the jump? because that would make waveshine oos ridiculously difficult against real opponents because you're have to anticipate when your shieldstun is going to end frameperfectly in order to land the waveshine.
Oh yeah... I forgot you can tech the shine...1. This is the only negative I can forsee, but even then you're looking at a trade at worst (assuming they up and then attack asap) bc fox is fast enuff to just nair in space or put out some hitbox
2. From my experience, since you start up another run prior to the second thunders, sdi doesn't really matter. They di away, they fall right into your space. They sdi behind you, they still get hit with the shine and end up a lil farther. Tho if the sdi and then tech the shine its game over for the combo, word up on the tech read.
3. Stage size doesn't matter, this set up can be controlled to go either way at either time*, since the goal isn't to throw the opponent off stage or infinite them, just mix them up
*tech skill depending
Then if they think they're super cool and try and up to mindgames, just do another drill and bam, remindgamed
I'm using the Cstick to jump, but I'm not just holding up and buffering. As far as I can tell it's just like using the control stick only way easier. The only other person I've had do it said it was definitely easier, it just seemed really slow and weird for him, so he didn't like it. (he can already waveshine out of sheild)
Welp, I never was a professional critiquer.
Thanks! To me, it felt like it was more of a spacing-problem in the first match. I think getting openings is more important than capitalizing on them, since the latter is somewhat easier to improve. Things that tend to get me is when i just can't get into Marth's range (i feel that if they time their attack right, they will always win), and when he decides to overshoot something like an Fsmash which can jinx my spacing. Thoughts on that?
i find it a lot harder to reverse SDHL, or do a running SDHL, if I were to use control stick to sh. for shine SHDL flashiness i use control stick but for any other situation, i use Y.
