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Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-

crush

crush

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Sveet said:
yeah i think i told that story. Surprised you remembered crush
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I have photographic memory I remember every percent and stock of the ending of all of my games which helps me recall like the whole entire match. But you never talked about that reverse shinegrab oos here on the boards I was just that black guy standing behind you watching that match.

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crush

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ICG was cute and funny, and his posts were all great because nobody took him seriously.









Crush you're stupid - sveet

Also icg never seemed very cute if anything he was a bit on the scary side because of his long hair/beanie

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KAOSTAR

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Winston said:
Sure, but they aren't forced into fading away. It's still a mixed strategy thing where they have the options of doing regular pillaring, doubleshining, fadeaway aerial, waveshine back, shinegrab, whatever.

And shine OOS beats some of those things and gets punished by others.

If your point is that forcing them to deal with it is valuable, then I agree. Just trying to put its real value into perspective
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Yea, thats fair. but shine grab is the hardest to beat by far(easiest to beat technically, but u cant really react to it, and then ur left open to EVERYthing else). Everything else isnt that much of a problem if you know what to look for. Mix ups make it more difficult, but you just gotta wait for your opening, it will be there. Shine oos is gay as ****.

I think alot of ppl look at the situation wrong. When you are getting effectively shield pressured by a space animal alot of ppl try to turn that situation into an offensive. often it results in them getting punished. IMO the majority of the time I think ppl should focus on simply getting away, not punishing them for attacking. and combine with basic things like WD oos, effective rolling, shield angling and simple shield DI away, then shine oos is pretty dam good. I dont really think there are alot of situations where u cant use it, other than the ones where they are too far away, and generally u can jump out of the shine and keep it movin.
 
Fortress | Sveet

Fortress | Sveet

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Yeah it went pretty much like he said. I remember it clearly, we were on the setup in the middle that was supposed to go on the projector. This was like at the beginning of the day before anything happened. We were on FD and I forced you to shield and I faired the back of it. Then my mind was blown when I was grabbed anyways
 
Sinji

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I have a question.

In terms of stage defending on the other side, which move has the advantage?

shine>turn around>WD backwards to the edge, or moon walk to the edge?
 
voorhese

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ive been trying to learn the style pointless gay style of fox, its sooo boring. It is however harder than i thought to just upthrow chaingrab, upthrow uptilt, upthrow upsmash, and tech chase people with the same things over and over.
 
ArcNatural

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Sveet said:
voorhese can also grounded oos reverse shine grab
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I'm working on the consistency of grounded oos shine. I've already done shine oos wavedash jab reset and shine oos wavedash backwards grab. It's pretty fun when you get them.

One of my favorite things to do for the lulz lately is what I call the spinning thunders.

some type of approach (running, aerial, etc.) shine turnaround wavedash turn around jab reset to w/e. Easiest to do running since you get more momentum.

Easily one of the coolest things I've come up with myself.
 
Jake13

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ArcNatural said:
Easily one of the coolest things I've come up with myself.
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For some reason like 20% of my drillshines/waveshine have this happen where I drill > shine > turnaround in my shine (for like a frame) > turnback around and wavedash out

And I can't replicate it on purpose

//cool but useless

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Lovage

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yo sup fox boards havn't been here in a while

my president is black, my lambos blue
AND ILL BE GOD DAMMED IF MY RIMS AINT TOOO
 
KirbyKaze

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Lovage I want to Fox ditto you in friendlies at The Big House. I've worked a lot on Fox lately and I wanna try him against someone that isn't from my region.

Rather not MM, just 'cuz I lost a lot of money to school a few days ago.

:)
 
Strong Badam

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would only be ~2 frames slower than grab/upsmash/nair so I don't see why not. without calculating (I have other things to do atm), you might be pushing it on Bowser, DK, or maybe Samus though because they have less hitstun (higher weight).
 
JPOBS

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velynn plays puff, trail plays ics i think (maybe ganon), the lake plays zelda.

hope u got your jank matchups down pat :troll:
 
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