Silent Wolf
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sliding off as in they get shined, land on the platform while moving sideways and edge cancel off
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Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-
- Thread starter Silent Wolf
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omgwtfToph
Smash Master
oh. k @.@
Silent Wolf
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usually people dont know to react to it and they just grab the ledge. on stages with standard platform height theyll usually end up near the ledge with limited options on the ground (thats why its good int he first place)
shining them towards the stage and wavelanding on a low platform is good tho; you can get to them faster.
shining them towards the stage and wavelanding on a low platform is good tho; you can get to them faster.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
ehh..
how you play is determined almost entirely by whatever bodily condition you're used to.
words like "sleep deprived", "half asleep", "in the zone" are just lamens terms for more complicated physiological processes, and are almost meaningless when being transfered from person to person when trying to assess how it will affect their respective play.
Emotion 100% can have a role in your quality of play as well, but this also varies from person to person for a number of reasons. some people will play better when mad for example, some will play worst.
how you play is determined almost entirely by whatever bodily condition you're used to.
words like "sleep deprived", "half asleep", "in the zone" are just lamens terms for more complicated physiological processes, and are almost meaningless when being transfered from person to person when trying to assess how it will affect their respective play.
Emotion 100% can have a role in your quality of play as well, but this also varies from person to person for a number of reasons. some people will play better when mad for example, some will play worst.
Fortress | Sveet
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JPOBS knows whats up.
shazbot
Smash Apprentice
Lol Joe i saw your name from the title page
This is Ed Honey Btw
haven't played in ages, nobody in at saint louis university likes melee
This is Ed Honey Btw
haven't played in ages, nobody in at saint louis university likes melee
Fortress | Sveet
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Sup ed! I didnt know you go to school in st louis O_O
FoxLisk
Smash Lord
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psst... youd sound smarter if you spelled laymen right
jealousy rears its ugly head
Tomacawk
Smash Master
I live in Edwardsville. Do you have a car?Lol Joe i saw your name from the title page
This is Ed Honey Btw
haven't played in ages, nobody in at saint louis university likes melee
If you take a bus to Edwardsville I will pick you up. You could walk to my house from the station (20 minute walk if you're slow) but I won't make you do that in the winter.
WashU has a good amount of melee players. Have you talked to them/do you know them?
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=92583
JPOBS
Smash Hero
hahapsst... youd sound smarter if you spelled laymen right
its true, i can't spell worth ****
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
ahh
just turned 21
get at me.
just turned 21
get at me.
Kanelol
Smash Lord
this was the last post by the famed RaynEX before he started his brutal spiral into alcoholism
happy birthday
Silent Wolf
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happy bday raynex. =D
JPOBS
Smash Hero
chea, happy birthday bernard
omgwtfToph
Smash Master
happy birthday raynex o.O
edit: kanelol, the drinking age in canada isn't 21
edit: kanelol, the drinking age in canada isn't 21
RaynEX
Colonel RTSD
its 19.
Thanks guys!
Thanks guys!
PB&J
Smash Hero
happy bday raynex
KILLA.FOR.CASH.
Smash Champion
i dont know you raynex, but happy birthday!
TheDekuNut
Smash Journeyman
i'm terrible it at DIing fox's up throw in fox dittos and fox falco. I always get thrown straight up and am helplessly comboed with whatever he chooses. what do i need to do with my dumb thumbs? and yah RaynEX woo Hap-E-berf-dai
Sinji
Smash Master
Im terrible at deciding whether to ugrab or usmash peach after a waveshine. Any advice.
I'll draw a flow chart for you. too lazy to draw it so I'll just write:
For the out line, asssume you are facing towards the right edge in all situations.
you shine peach:
I. Close to the edge
a. she fell to the edge > resetting position
b. she fell off the stage, missing the edge > edge guard opportunity*
c. she is still on stage
_____ci. is she at kill percent?
________yes. up smash
________no.
_____cii. is she at medium percent?
________yes. down smash
________no.
_____ciii. are you good?
________yes. Drill cross up > shine to the other side of the stage
________no. grab
II. Center Stage
a. waveshine to the edge > see section I.
III. Opposite side of the stage.
a. waveshine to the edge > see section I.
TheDekuNut
Smash Journeyman
he got a flow chart and i got "don't get grabbed"
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JPOBS
Smash Hero
well to be fair, theres no way to explain how to DI fox's upthrow. if you keep not DI'ing it, the only solution, is to DI it. so.....i mean if you really want a flow chart :/
-Did you get grabbed?
no:
yes:
--->Did you DI?
-----no: get death combo'd.
----yes: escape is a possibility.
thats about it.
his question was about decision making.
-Did you get grabbed?
no:
yes:
--->Did you DI?
-----no: get death combo'd.
----yes: escape is a possibility.
thats about it.
his question was about decision making.
TheDekuNut
Smash Journeyman
i feel a little better now thanks for my own flow chart
It really doenst matter whether you DI or not when it comes to fox's up throw. I suppose the best would be to DI behind him @ very low percents because people can get tripped up in the turn animation. Aside from that. . . honestly, just don't let your opponent grab you.
Winston
Smash Master
JPOBS
Smash Hero
meh. do it better.
not at lowish percents (i assume thats what he's talking about but i guess i could be wrong)
DI'ing is the best way to escape at low percents cuz it gives them the best chance to mess up. like even great players sometimes to upsmash at 0% when their opponent DI's away. then you just tech away and ta-da, you're out of the ****.
small chance of escape (by them miscalculating slightly) > garuntee upsmash/regrab imo
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I think turn around U-tilt is really good out of Shine vs Peach.
omgwtfToph
Smash Master
I agree. I don't do it enough, unfortunately. Maybe I'll start.
leffen
Smash Champion
Yeah except:
Why would you ever turn around?
Turning around is slower than just walking forward for 1-3 frames and doing reversed, and easier to be consistent with. And if you do it reversed and they DI forward, you can either turnaround utilt again or start dair /nair.
Oh utilting at ~ 50% is **** since it combos into second hit uair ( which kills ).
PS: Waveshine to grab is a crime at low percents vs peach, use something else!
omgwtfToph
Smash Master
Eh, not necessarily on platform stages. You can get like 2 or 3 uairs sometimes.
leffen
Smash Champion
Eh, with the peach being how drunk?
Try doing that vs armada, smash DI + good DI on the throws / uairs = impossible.
I dont even know if it true combos, even if they miss the DI.
Try doing that vs armada, smash DI + good DI on the throws / uairs = impossible.
I dont even know if it true combos, even if they miss the DI.
Palpi
Smash Hero
Oh...my god...I forgot about this!
Winston
Smash Master
Can't you hold down on the Cstick or something and stay grounded from the utilt until a pretty high percent?
Yeah people don't really do this so it's good, but holding down on the Cstick doesn't really cost Peach anything since it doesn't mess up her DI on other moves.
Yeah people don't really do this so it's good, but holding down on the Cstick doesn't really cost Peach anything since it doesn't mess up her DI on other moves.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
??
turning around takes one frame, its not slow at all.
and since when have fox players concerned themselves with ease of use