i like wd walk pc :D
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Q&A -Fox Advice/Questions Topic-
- Thread starter Silent Wolf
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Tomacawk
Smash Master
To be honest I'm not sure which would be the fastest. I think that SHL ledge cancel is probably the fastest, but if you shine turn wd and fastfall to the ledge it's really fast as well
FluxWolf
Smash Lord
i like shine hog cuz sometimes the shine hits them and theres also the barrier of fire surrounding u for a little bit lawl, and since its a little slower than some of the others it feels like you get more invincibility time since you just grab the edge a little later from the firefawx stall
ive found that way to be the most reliable since turnaround waveshine/shl are harder to be consistent with in a real match and in order for it to even be faster you gotta fast fall between the time your off the stage and grab the edge.
ive found that way to be the most reliable since turnaround waveshine/shl are harder to be consistent with in a real match and in order for it to even be faster you gotta fast fall between the time your off the stage and grab the edge.
Silent Wolf
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depends how far from the ledge you are. if youre far enough, the edge canceled side b, side b sweet spot would be the fastest. otherwise im pretty sure shl is the fastest.
FluxWolf
Smash Lord
i was figuring out ways that u can grab the edge with fox up b from the stage lol like u can do it from any part of the stage as long as its at the end (sweet spot)
voorhese
Smash Master
if u do that running shine off stage thing, you can running shine -> shinespike
edit: ^ bro found first time playing (fluxwolf)
edit: ^ bro found first time playing (fluxwolf)
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Is there a percent range during which Fox can chaingrab a Falcon DI'ing away/behind? I know there's a range where it can work. I just want to know if Falcon can always jump out of it.
mastermoo420
Smash Ace
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Okay, get ready for a really broad question because I'm ready for whatever flame/hate that might come.
Alright, so what're some shine combos? :D
Ahaha more specifically, what are the basic shine combos (waveshine included)? Waveshine > up-smash is, like, the only one I know, but I can only do that one on people who have enough traction so that I can use one WD to reach them. At the least, how can I reach people who get sent a crazy distance with some kind of attack (such as Marth or, at the highest extremity, Luigi)?
I also kinda wanna learn some regular shine (without the WD) combos that exist. Shine > Uair is one, right?
EDIT: Oh yeah, also, how can one continually waveshine on characters whose traction sends them so far that one WD can't reach them? Kinda goes with the longer paragraph I wrote.
Alright, so what're some shine combos? :D
Ahaha more specifically, what are the basic shine combos (waveshine included)? Waveshine > up-smash is, like, the only one I know, but I can only do that one on people who have enough traction so that I can use one WD to reach them. At the least, how can I reach people who get sent a crazy distance with some kind of attack (such as Marth or, at the highest extremity, Luigi)?
I also kinda wanna learn some regular shine (without the WD) combos that exist. Shine > Uair is one, right?
EDIT: Oh yeah, also, how can one continually waveshine on characters whose traction sends them so far that one WD can't reach them? Kinda goes with the longer paragraph I wrote.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Jupz
Smash Master
When should I use Dair with fox? From the videos I've seen people don't use it too often.
mastermoo420
Smash Ace
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Oh wow, I've looked at that thread before, too. Don't know how I missed/forgot that. Thanks 
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
@tomacawk
edit: i just saw the link. ill checkthe thread
edit: i just saw the link. ill checkthe thread
TresChikon
Smash Lord
When people start to CC -> D-smash/grab/shield->up+b/d-tilt/shine/rest/**** your nairs.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Basically, always against Peach.
hubble
Smash Ace
And samus, dont miss l-cancels vs these two. I know from experience
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Samus is weird to play against, sometimes drillshine doesn't work because of the way drill makes her flinch.
Lovage
Smash Hero
it goes away eventually
i don't know how to help you get over it, but with experience you will
i think thats all it really is
consistent tourney experience
consistent tourney experience
Blistering Speed
Smash Champion
I've discovered edgeguarding illusions with reverse F Tilt is the greatest thing ever.
First, yes it is a stupid thing and i never recommended this technique.
Second, my point was that you don't get the same spacing when you just run off/jump out and shine turn bair (in the same amount of time)
Third, i don't edgeguard with Chillin Dashs, i can't do them consistently (i never bothered learning them) and even if i could i prolly wouldnt use them in serious matches
@Ruby: Ill change my sig
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Lol, no way. I have to try that out.
Magus posted a .gif where a Ganon edgeuarded an illusion with a reverse jab once.
In regards to just discovering Ftilt: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYW4GuwM1uI#t=1m11s
QFT. Lambchops made me realize this
INSANE CARZY GUY
Banned via Warnings
http://www.smashboards.com/member.php?u=164061 tell this guy to master SHFFLing and to tell him how to DD he is left handed and wants to be flashy with his uber fast DD and not the kind where it's hard to punish.
Also I love to do a running shine turn around to SHFFL bair are there any major problems with that? I would think if you space it It would be pretty hard to CC for falco.
Also I love to do a running shine turn around to SHFFL bair are there any major problems with that? I would think if you space it It would be pretty hard to CC for falco.
Scidadle
Smash Champion
... Dash Dancing isn't hard. It's not someone someone should have to tell you how to do.
Scidadle
Smash Champion
Thats just like pure finger strength or something.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
my question was specifically on the glitch.First, yes it is a stupid thing and i never recommended this technique.
Second, my point was that you don't get the same spacing when you just run off/jump out and shine turn bair (in the same amount of time)
Third, i don't edgeguard with Chillin Dashs, i can't do them consistently (i never bothered learning them) and even if i could i prolly wouldnt use them in serious matches
@Ruby: Ill change my sig
its quite easy to run out and shine and keep your momentum. and it can def be useful.
running shine somebody and they DI away. you are right there to **** b4 they know whats going on.
I only meant the part where the shine disappears and fox looks slightly blue, but everything else is the same. I was referring this as chillin dashing, thinking about it now, I could be wrong and its just running off and shining while keeping momentum.
TresChikon
Smash Lord
So what are the mechanics of a chillin dash?
Doesn't seem like the animation could get cancelled since the shine is, well... one frame.
Doesn't seem like the animation could get cancelled since the shine is, well... one frame.
Hey guys, is it possible to do shine bair when the opponent is on the ground?
Look at 2:04 in the moneymatch I had with an IC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtHAPz0hJrc
Look at 2:04 in the moneymatch I had with an IC:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtHAPz0hJrc
yeah it is, but ive enver seen one like that @_@
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
voorhese
Smash Master
dont think the shine hit dude, and i have not done shine bair on someone while they are on the ground (lying down), just wait for them to get up...
shine bair is easy while they are standing up, just get used to the timing of turning around b4 the jump
shine bair is easy while they are standing up, just get used to the timing of turning around b4 the jump
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
oh, by on the ground you meant standing lol.
yea, all the same variations of shine with bair can be done while they are grounded depending on speed and direction.
yea, all the same variations of shine with bair can be done while they are grounded depending on speed and direction.
kinda need momentum too bud
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
its pretty much implied or a calculation of the two factors +[in addition too] weight.
at the right speed/direction you have enough momentum. I dont need to get more because I chose not to use the word momentum in my post.