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Falco Beats Fox!!
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doubleshining when you leave the ground can also be useful
JPOBS
Smash Hero
if you're under a platform just waveland onto it and gogogo
teh_spamerer
Smash Master
D1
Banned via Administration
What a liar. We had a convo in front of the bathroom at the No Johns venue yesterday, and he said Fox is better. Maybe he was salty cuz he lost to Chopz the weekend before.
Nah, I played him last Monday and he said he thinks Falco is better now(not from playing me though)
Eggm
Smash Hero
Fox is better, falcos just BS at the matchup. xD
Fox is better at CP stages and overall and in doubles.
Fox is better at CP stages and overall and in doubles.
Kanelol
Smash Lord
But falco can combo better
Kanelol
Smash Lord
I switched from Fox to Falco a week or two ago
It's weird :<
It's weird :<
Kason Birdman
Smash Champion
i think its just that its easier to combo fox with falco than it is to combo falco with fox.
so gettin off in that match-up at not as high level play is easier for falco.
or atleast i find falco easier comboing fox.. but i main falco.. and not really much of a fox
so gettin off in that match-up at not as high level play is easier for falco.
or atleast i find falco easier comboing fox.. but i main falco.. and not really much of a fox
Kason Birdman
Smash Champion
yeah i agree. falco getting off like a monster is just a hell of a lot more obvious than fox in most cases.
but fox is still pretty ruthless when it comes to comboing everyone.
whos better at comboing sheik?
but fox is still pretty ruthless when it comes to comboing everyone.
whos better at comboing sheik?
Kason Birdman
Smash Champion
yeah i was leaning towards fox. I just have like, vurtially no sheik experience. nobody at all 'round here mains her.
FluxWolf
Smash Lord
LOL too busy playing cs just now noticed this 
D1
Banned via Administration
DEHF aka Larry (the same **** Brawl Falco) got off on Lucky at the 2GG event Falco vs. Fox.
God**** such a hard matchup for Fox.
God**** such a hard matchup for Fox.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Falco's cheap.
Blistering Speed
Smash Champion
Larry's really really good though. He just didn't practice Melee for ages.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
i think people underestimate fox's combos on falco. they can be just as brutal if not more so.
any grab or knockdown should lead to massive damage.
any grab or knockdown should lead to massive damage.
Lovage
Smash Hero
the problem is that fox's combos on falco are 10000x harder to execute consistently because they require super tight reaction times on your tech chasing.
where as falco combos are super easy just get a cc shine into some stuff and then dair onto platform and then do a super easy tech chase dair/utilt/grab/bair on the platform and then edgeguard (also super easy) EASY AS PIE
where as falco combos are super easy just get a cc shine into some stuff and then dair onto platform and then do a super easy tech chase dair/utilt/grab/bair on the platform and then edgeguard (also super easy) EASY AS PIE
JPOBS
Smash Hero
Kanelol
Smash Lord
Falco combos are mad easy compared to Fox
It's just like, do some dairs and ****
oh no get up attack shield
shine shine shine
dair a few more times
fsmash
It's just like, do some dairs and ****
oh no get up attack shield
shine shine shine
dair a few more times
fsmash
This is one of the best and truest posts I've ever read on smashboards.
Not **** riding or anything but that was amazing.
Kason Birdman
Smash Champion
...that **** was awesome..
Silent Wolf
...
word .
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
unknown522
Some guy
THANK YOU!!
Someone finally gets it.
not to mention that falco hits fox much easier, on top of having easier/better combos (and better setups).
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
idk Falco can like dair shine to 40 then u-tilt and do a big launch combo or shine around on platforms for a big platform tech chase combo with u-tilts thrown in or dair them into the ground and force tech chases that he can react to and hit (if we're saying fox can, idk, i think it's fair to say falco can too) and he can start his combos from defensive positions easy because of cc shine really easily.
Kanelol
Smash Lord
Note that Falco combo videos are usually awesome
and Fox combo videos are usually 20 minutes of shine spikes
and Fox combo videos are usually 20 minutes of shine spikes
JPOBS
Smash Hero
man you guys are acting like the falcon boards up in here.
Fletch
Smash Master
No one is arguing that Fox is the worst character in the game.
Lovage
Smash Hero
LOL
yea i kinda grimaced while i wrote my last post, i dont want to be a whiny ***** when i'm playing the best character in the game lol
just gets kinda annoying when people think fox is perfect and don't realize that he does have (some) weaknesses.
but w/e
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Here i thought fox had really good auto combos on falco like uthrow->usmash/uair depending on percent which eventually is a kill combo, the 2nd best speed in the game for tech chasing, one of the best edge guards on falco, chaingrabs, ect.
TBH i think fox can stay on falco's *** better after a hit than falco can do to fox. If you SDI the shine or dair you're pretty much out of the combo. Even regular DI will get you to the point where you get a few choices in. With fox if you get a shine on falco his choices are do a getup attack or choose between one of a few laggy standup animations. You chase him down and hit him a few times and he is either off the stage or back on the ground.
TBH i think fox can stay on falco's *** better after a hit than falco can do to fox. If you SDI the shine or dair you're pretty much out of the combo. Even regular DI will get you to the point where you get a few choices in. With fox if you get a shine on falco his choices are do a getup attack or choose between one of a few laggy standup animations. You chase him down and hit him a few times and he is either off the stage or back on the ground.
Tomacawk
Smash Master
You forget teching the shine, in which case falco has tons of options to get out.
True, but it means hard to play, literally impossible to play at max potential.
Falco can execute very consistently with waveshine/pillar/tech chase/utilt combos/laser combos, whereas fox must not only be solid on the inputs but also be fast enough to hit tightly timed tech chase grabs, usmashes, DI reads during combos, etc
Kanelol
Smash Lord
Fox is mad sexy, buy combo'ing is hard
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