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Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!

Dogysamich

The Designated Hype Man!
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I almost got setup to play some melee tomorrow. Almost.
dogy used to have a combo vid

i watched it a few times when i first started out

i liked the song and forgot what it was tho

dogy remind me <3

AND VGMASTARICKY IS THA ****IN BOSS
I dont know. Some guy made a combo video for me.

So all I did was get salty that he used some Azumanga Daioh for the intro, and be half amazed/half upset that it was some random happy-go-lucky weeaboo music.


 

ranmaru

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Do you think that Smash4 will be so baddd that melee community and brawl community will love each other? oh wait waht about the 64dudes? :3
 

BigWenz

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Do you think that Smash4 will be so baddd that melee community and brawl community will love each other? oh wait waht about the 64dudes? :3

if sakurai makes smash 4 i dont think it will be fit to be competitive. Like he tried to make brawl not competitive and he kinda of succeeded. However since people play brawl competitively i guess he failed. I feel smash4 will be so bad that a competitive seen wont be able to take root.
 

ChivalRuse

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Shroomed

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Shroomed

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ive never seen an axe vs hbox match so i doubt it

but if jman beats me ima be mad salty cuz i pride myself on the fox matchup lol
 

Palpi

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i almost got setup to play some melee tomorrow. Almost.

i dont know. Some guy made a combo video for me.

So all i did was get salty that he used some azumanga daioh for the intro, and be half amazed/half upset that it was some random happy-go-lucky weeaboo music.


i hate weeaboos!
 

Dogysamich

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that's hard since i've barely posted on here since TO6. (Hell, really I could get away with saying since APEX, or since i quit modding).

__

Not to mention my sig is one of my secondaries in MBAA. Miyako is ****in hilarious.
 

VGmasta

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This OTG guy thinks he can turn Doc into MetaKnight. Then, I watched his combo video, saw Fox get cape-***** + 4-stocked + ragequit, and then remembered why PC Jona hated fighting Dr Mario.

Of course Shroomed approves of the upsmash gimmick.

Speaking of upsmash, I've been using that more. It's just really good when your opponent doesn't expect it. Like at around 80%, I like to make Ganon miss some laggy attack (his up-B, side-B, or down-B) on the stage. This is where I'd almost always just run up and grab -> throw offstage or run up and d-smash/f-smash. Now I just run up and up-smash -> f-air.

Sometimes, I edgehog Marth to force him to Up-B on the stage purposely if I see he's at around 80%, cuz now I know I can just upsmash -> f-air him off the top just for fun.
 

Shroomed

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i dont use upsmash to punish enough

i normally punish with grab to some type of combo

ima start punishing with usmash fairs
 

otg

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On my 5th 4 Loko and still ****** you.
Doc's bad, but pc jona is ****ing hilarious.

Also Shroomed, whats your thoughts on stages in the Sheik matchup? What do you strike, ban, cp, etc? Is it player specific or do you have a set idea in mind for the matchup in general?

This is my toughest matchup right now and I'm starting to get the hang of it, but I def have a lot to learn.
 

Shroomed

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i dont like to play on big stages vs sheik cuz she'll jus gimp u anyways

i like yoshi's most of all vs sheik
FoD is small but it's FoD which i hate and i ban that vs just about every character/player

and also places w/o a top platform cuz she can use it so much better than you

so stadium/FD
 

otg

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On my 5th 4 Loko and still ****** you.
maybe yaneev is just better than you
That's definitely true, but it doesn't mean I can't learn and get better foool.

good **** shroomed, tho I'm sorta confused as to how you say you don't like big stages then suggest Stadium and FD lol. I'm fine with both those stages, tho Stadium's transformations are way better for her.
 

Shroomed

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yea im terrible at advice

i dont like top platforms at all

im a head to head type player, not all that smart ****

i jus wanna ****!!!! lol
 

DRD

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Would everyone say that doc is a bad character, or simply an underrated one, or both

edit: totally unrelated question that i thought about while watching a match

will the cape ever turn fox or falco's illusion around while its going, or just cause them to stop and fall? I know that I have ******** timing and can almost never cape it directly in the middle of its course, but it seems like when I do (or I think I do), they just sort of trip up in the air.

weird
 

VGmasta

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Would everyone say that doc is a bad character, or simply an underrated one, or both

edit: totally unrelated question that i thought about while watching a match

will the cape ever turn fox or falco's illusion around while its going, or just cause them to stop and fall? I know that I have ******** timing and can almost never cape it directly in the middle of its course, but it seems like when I do (or I think I do), they just sort of trip up in the air.

weird
Doc's not an awful character. But characters like Marth, Fox and Sheik are wayy better.

The cape only turns Fox/Falco around if the cape hits them during their illusion start up (right before they take off vertically). Hitting them with the cape at any point of the illusion after the start up puts Fox/Falco in hitstun, which causes them fall straight down out of the illusion.

Just keep in mind that there are other ways for Doc to disrupt Fox/Falco illusions: b-airs/f-tilt/up-tilt/f-smash/d-smash/pills
 

DRD

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I didn't realize so many moves out-prioritize it; I just need to get the timing down then. Seems like illusion is the only thing I can never edgeguard well, that and shiek's up-b. I have no idea which frames are and aren't invincible, seems like they all are, so hard to cape it.
 

The Good Doctor

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I didn't realize so many moves out-prioritize it; I just need to get the timing down then. Seems like illusion is the only thing I can never edgeguard well, that and shiek's up-b. I have no idea which frames are and aren't invincible, seems like they all are, so hard to cape it.
There is a youtube video out there of 18spikes caping the hell out of my sheik...
 

Rostigalen

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DRD, Illusion has the lowest priority in the game. The hitbox is behind the hurtbox, so timed correctly, all moves beat it.

I like F-tilt against Illusions.
 
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