Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!

[HomeMadeWaffles]

im just going to accept the fact that no matter how good i get or anything, i can't beat brandon in doc dittos

ima gay it up with ****** *** characters lol

epic choking on my part

that tournament made me accept im not good with doc anymore

next time tho, i got u son =)

 

[KirbyKaze]

step it up docs

 

[Desh]

Alright I willll.

 

[ChivalRuse]

So I hear f-tilt is good vs Marf.

 

[otg]

I'm stepping it up hardcore. I hope to **** at HoG this weekend.

 

[DJ Nintendo]

F-tilt is definitely good against Marth.

Come on Doc players. Ya definitely need to step it up. I can help step it up for ya by using Doc again in tourney.

By the way, me and Sir O-T-G's double Doc is something not to be ****ed with LOL!

 

[Shroomed]

doc blows so ****ing bad

Dr. PP pushed my **** in HARD

 

[otg]

DJ our Double Doc is probably the gayest thing ever. At the next No Johns we def have to do some MM's with people.

 

[DJ Nintendo]

*****s definitely need to stop complaining about how bad their character is. Who gives a **** if PP or anyone ****ed up a person's Doc or whatever? Get better prepared for next time, get those mindgames up, and of course always try your best. We all have our good days and bad of course too. I've used characters like Bowser, Doc, Mario and Pikachu for years and beat mad high level players and didn't complain that my characters are horrible whenever I lost or got ***** because I obviously know they're horrible. Pretty much every fighting game is gonna have characters that are far worse than others.

OTG: Yeah son, its pretty gay lol. I'm definitely down to do some team money matches.

 

[ranmaru]

F-tilt is definitely good against Marth.

Come on Doc players. Ya definitely need to step it up. I can help step it up for ya by using Doc again in tourney.

By the way, me and Sir O-T-G's double Doc is something not to be ****ed with LOL!

You right. I gotta step it up. at pound5. At my tournie. And talwinds.

Shroomed, how did Dr Pp mess you up? Cmon, it's up to YOU (now) to step it up against PP as a doc.

I wanna do a double doc team as well... Although we both have to be the same skill level. LOL

 

[Shroomed]

if you knew me DJ, you'd know i never say things about how bad my character is

then i played PP and after the set, the way he plays i literally could not THINK of any solutions that i missed to his spacing/choice of moves/any of that stuff

@Ranmaru: I got 3 stocked twice (low percents)

 

[ranmaru]

Kk. We should ask him what he does to docs. : D

 

[otg]

Doc vs. Falco is tough enough as it is. Against someone like PP I can't even fathom how gay it got. Was it recorded?

 

[DJ Nintendo]

I feel you Shroomed. Doc vs. Falco is tough, especially playing PP. Although I believe you can beat him.

 

[Shroomed]

Yeah it was recorded, and normally I go back and watch what I did wrong to try to improve for next time but I seriously don't know how much it's going to help this time.

The spaced bairs and utlits on top of the lasers and never missing an L cancel. Even when I caped a laser he spaced himself to where he could short hop over the caped laser, and hit me while im still in cape lag.

You guys should watch and give me any advice you can when they're up because falco's my worst matchup but that was seriously ********.

Thanks DJ, I definitely don't want that to ever happen again.

 

[otg]

Word I mean, Ive been saying Doc vs. Falco is Doc's worst matchup forever. bair/utilt/lasers/platform camping is so hard to get around. Caping lasers isn't safe at all imo, **** is stupid hard. Thankfully most falcos are terrible at the matchup. I'll watch and see what's good. As of right now my strategy is to go Fox vs. Campy falcos and marth vs. aggressive ones. Works out.

 

[ranmaru]

I feel as though for Doc, it's better for us if we get to the opponent first and capitalize before we are... capitalized. ;-;

Falco can deff get to us before we get to him. So if Dr PP is on spot with his tech, he can **** us...

Thing is, Shroomed if you were near him, do you think you'd gimp him fast before he can **** you up? lol.

 

[Shroomed]

i dont think i got a single grab the entire set so that's a no on the gimp

 

[otg]

You can land gimps without grabs tho.....

Recently I've been focusing my gameplay on working without landing grabs because realistically, vs a player of PP's caliber it's going to be damn near impossible to land them as Doc.

 

[ChivalRuse]

To gimp without grabs, you pretty much need a poorly DI'ed d-smash or a bair that hits them without their double jump, right?

 

[TemPesT-]

don't forget docs multitool the down tilt

 

[otg]

To gimp without grabs, you just have to get someone offstage and be smart, it doesn't matter how you do it.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Yes, but Doc's grabless methods of doing so usually involve his higher-knockback moves, or I'm gravely mistaken.

 

[Shroomed]

i rarely get edgeguard opportunities w/o grabs

but i need all the advice i can get vs a falco like pp

 

[ChivalRuse]

I pretty much know nothing about Doc. He's an okay character, I guess. But I'm not gonna pretend like I can give advice to ... anyone. Lol.

 

[DJ Nintendo]

I get edgeguards with Doc without grabs all the time. Step it up guys.

 

[otg]

I get edgeguards with Doc without grabs all the time. Step it up guys.

I'm saying, if you can only get gimps via grabs your gimp game is probably horrible.

 

[Shroomed]

oh i know my gimp game is horrible

all my kills are 100% and above pretty much lol

 

[ranmaru]

I get edgeguards with Doc without grabs all the time. Step it up guys.

Yeah but we talking about PP.

Do you edgeguard him? lol.

 

[VGmasta]

Yeah but we talking about PP.

Do you edgeguard him? lol.

It doesn't really matter who the Falco player is whether it's Dr. PP, Mang0, or VGmasta (and I suck as Falco). The matchup is still Doc vs Falco, and Doc CAN still gimp Falco regardless of who the player is. Dr. PP is a great Falco player, but he's not invincible and therefore not immune to being gimped.

 

[DJ Nintendo]

It doesn't really matter who the Falco player is whether it's Dr. PP, Mang0, or VGmasta (and I suck as Falco). The matchup is still Doc vs Falco, and Doc CAN still gimp Falco regardless of who the player is. Dr. PP is a great Falco player, but he's not invincible and therefore not immune to being gimped.

Exactly. Thank you very much. Besides, my gimp game with any character is pretty beast. Edgeguarding is one of my biggest strengths in this game.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Exactly. Thank you very much. Besides, my gimp game with any character is pretty beast. Edgeguarding is one of my biggest strengths in this game.

Patience is also one of your biggest strengths too, DJ. I've never seen anybody camp so hard with Doc and Vanilla Mario. I've also heard similar things about your Peach too.

Smooth Criminal

 

[eighteenspikes]

so i just caught upa fter not reading this dump for a good month, all 1.5 pages, and i see yall are still ignoring dtilt. nobody to blame but yourselves.......

 

[TemPesT-]

don't forget docs multitool the down tilt

so i just caught upa fter not reading this dump for a good month, all 1.5 pages, and i see yall are still ignoring dtilt. nobody to blame but yourselves.......

midwest just gets it.

 

[otg]

That explains why you guys win all the Nationals.

 

[#HBC | Mac]

lolol

get ****ed up

 

[username12345678]

That explains why you guys win all the Nationals.

aww now that's

aww

 

[TemPesT-]

no, it only explains why doc mains don't win nationals.

 

[otg]

I lose to Falco's.

Discuss.

 

[M@1funk$hun]

I just watched Shroomed v HugS at WGF

how do every one of your pills hit

swear it's like magic