Yeah, that's what I meant. It's just **** gay since there's so few options you have to choose from in that situation. Thanks for the tips anyway, I'll be trying them tomorrow.
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Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!
- Thread starter otg
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lol, so like, I should be chillin at home workin on the guide right now (or practicin stuff) but I'm sittin over here at my friend's house while he rearranges his whole house. It's pretty mindless. -Rolls eyes-
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Anyway, I think i have like, 9 more matchups for the guide, tweak some stuff, add some character specific sections, and I'm done. It's lookin..... meh, ok I guess. I'll just have to put it out and see. I'm thinkin everything is a little long winded, but that's what I do.
I will note that as of now, the guide is 75 pages on MS Word, and because I'm typing casually, there are so many spelling and grammatical errors that word cannot display them anymore.
Proofreading that thing is going to be a *****.
The way I see it, I should have it pooped out by friday as I don't have work wednesday, thursday, or friday. (Probably don't have work tuesday either, I dunno.)
But yeah. Looks pretty interesting.
It's coming, it's coming.
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Anyway, I think i have like, 9 more matchups for the guide, tweak some stuff, add some character specific sections, and I'm done. It's lookin..... meh, ok I guess. I'll just have to put it out and see. I'm thinkin everything is a little long winded, but that's what I do.
I will note that as of now, the guide is 75 pages on MS Word, and because I'm typing casually, there are so many spelling and grammatical errors that word cannot display them anymore.
Proofreading that thing is going to be a *****.
The way I see it, I should have it pooped out by friday as I don't have work wednesday, thursday, or friday. (Probably don't have work tuesday either, I dunno.)
But yeah. Looks pretty interesting.
It's coming, it's coming.
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
dogy I know we joke about it all the time n stuff but I think you need to SERIOUSLY RECONSIDER how good the dtilt is. it comes out so fast and sets up edgeguards like CRAZY. yesterday at a tournament I beat Rat, that samus I had the long azz set with and lost to last time, and dtilt played no small part. IT CLINKS WITH HER DSMASH. LIKE WTF IS THAT. **** IS SO GOOD
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I better tell Rat to use Kirby.
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
no didn't you hear, I got over my fear of kirby at a MN tourney last month, I actually beat one in a tourney set. luigi still annihilates me tho 
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
well yea its kinda slow but its not even THAT bad if you get hit while doing it because you CC and do a dair off the edge, which puts you in pretty good position to recover
otg
Smash Master
Yo spikes, to beat luigi just get him off stage. I conquered my luigi fear recently. Now I'm back to hating every other character in the game.
Oh yo, PS you guys should use Mario more often. He's prtty good
Oh yo, PS you guys should use Mario more often. He's prtty good
I know it's not as *** terrible as it makes it out to be. It still comes out faster than a grab and sends people at a lower angle, I know that.
It's just, aside from that, it's *** terrible. It can be CC'd, has a fairly low knockback, etc etc.
I really do rag on it much more than I should, but at the same time IT'S STILL A ****ING DOC D.TILT.
otg
Smash Master
Doc's pretty good guys.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Except when fighting Sheik or Marth amirite?
Shroomed
Smash Master
sheik isnt that hard for doc
unless she jus bairs all game, then she's a *****
unless she jus bairs all game, then she's a *****
otg
Smash Master
Yeah Sheik and marth are tough, but w'e.
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
sheik sux but marth is easy peezy :hunger:
Aight guys.
4 matchups left, then I need to add some sections for characters (positioning vs characters, how to deal with character specific tactics), clean up the intro, proofread, and we're good to go.
I'm probably going to try to finish the 4 matchups tonight, as they're Luigi, DK, Mario and Link.
So, I'm thinkin my ETA is going to be Friday.
I don't plan on leaving the house 2morrow, so don't be too surprised if the guide poops out a day or two early.
As for now, I'm going to (hopefully) practice pressing buttons with my target.
Dogy Out.
4 matchups left, then I need to add some sections for characters (positioning vs characters, how to deal with character specific tactics), clean up the intro, proofread, and we're good to go.
I'm probably going to try to finish the 4 matchups tonight, as they're Luigi, DK, Mario and Link.
So, I'm thinkin my ETA is going to be Friday.
I don't plan on leaving the house 2morrow, so don't be too surprised if the guide poops out a day or two early.
As for now, I'm going to (hopefully) practice pressing buttons with my target.
Dogy Out.
otg
Smash Master
Mad respect dogy. From what the little you showed us a month or so ago this guide looks like it's going to be epic.
Current Guide stats:
Pages: 95. (Calibri 11 Font)
Words: 54,332
Characters left: 4 (rough)
Extra notes: Word CANNOT display my typos and grammatical errors so more. That's what I get for doing a "casual" guide.
Pages: 95. (Calibri 11 Font)
Words: 54,332
Characters left: 4 (rough)
Extra notes: Word CANNOT display my typos and grammatical errors so more. That's what I get for doing a "casual" guide.
Niko45
Smash Master
I'm not sure on percents or anything but I find that Doc doesn't HAVE to tech the dthrow. He's floaty enough that he can jump out before hitting the ground, or wiggle to an air dodge. Both can be predicted and punished with death, but just saying, it's more options more opportunity to escape.
Shibbypod
BIM
I find that for myself, Doc is not always the best choice against marth. (my) Doc gets outranged so bad most of the time, I find myself running away and pilling like a frickin ***** nearly the entire match. It is hard to gain control especially if marth controlls the floor and keeps you above him. I find the best strat is to... go fox...
sue me
sue me
VGmasta
Smash Lord
After all these lame Marth matches I've had, I wouldn't dream of filing a suit on anyone who decides to pick a different character over Dr. Mario. Marth is just straight wack. I mean Marth's retreating f-airs alone cover too many of Doc's options to approach.
Shibbypod
BIM
does anyone know the frame specific info on ledge techs?
Ocean
Smash Master
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7 frames to tech against a wall I believe. this is just from memory so it may be wrong.
So it's done
And when I finished with it, I looked at it like Bleh. :/
If it's kool, I'll stick it. If not, I might just let it fade into nothingness.
And when I finished with it, I looked at it like Bleh. :/
If it's kool, I'll stick it. If not, I might just let it fade into nothingness.
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
I like it. Thought you did a pretty good job, bro.
"Victory McWin" is priceless, btw.
Smooth Criminal
"Victory McWin" is priceless, btw.
Smooth Criminal
yuki
Smash Apprentice
It has been completed. Im going to read it.
Good **** dogy
Good **** dogy
InterimOfZeal
Smash Champion
Gonna read it now. Make it a downloadable .doc, too?
yeah, I need to find a place to upload it seeing as I can't just upload it to the site (Not that i've found, atleast)
Shibbypod
BIM
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/gaming-with-shibbypod
My friend and I will be playing some money matches tonight along with some friendlies so feel free to drop in either just to watch or to help us out with our game. I'll be using doc and some other higher tier chars
My friend and I will be playing some money matches tonight along with some friendlies so feel free to drop in either just to watch or to help us out with our game. I'll be using doc and some other higher tier chars
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Whoever says Boss ain't the best Doc - y'all are just hating.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JX1rhDferk&feature=sub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnwcQEeFmeo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZuBn55lNtk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2csmbIlaKA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JX1rhDferk&feature=sub
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnwcQEeFmeo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZuBn55lNtk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2csmbIlaKA
boss8
Smash Hero
i shouldnt be scared to grab chu i need to grab him more...
Shroomed
Smash Master
u need earlier bair kills on nana
n when you downB, you get so much height
i never get that high
n when you downB, you get so much height
i never get that high
otg
Smash Master
Guys how quickly you forget. I'm the best Doc, just look at my sig. Just watched those vids of Boss v. Chu. Chu makes that **** look impossible for Doc.
VGmasta
Smash Lord
I don't know about who the best Doc is yet? Boss and Dogy are both high on the list though. OTG, 18spikes, Shroomed, and HMW look good too.
BTW, I finally got around to reading some of Dogy's Matchup Guide. I'm lovin' what I see right now. I should find some more stuff that's gonna help me to change the Doc metagame. Thanks for the great guide, Dogy.
BTW, I finally got around to reading some of Dogy's Matchup Guide. I'm lovin' what I see right now. I should find some more stuff that's gonna help me to change the Doc metagame. Thanks for the great guide, Dogy.
I'm so glad that I only mod the character forums so I don't have to read about people finally catching on to how simple smash is (read: crying about jiggs dittos for finals).
Good job to all you guys who went and like, did well.
Kinda wish I'da gone, but I had a blast at the tourney that happened here this weekend, so it works out for me.
Good job to all you guys who went and like, did well.
Kinda wish I'da gone, but I had a blast at the tourney that happened here this weekend, so it works out for me.
ranmaru
Smash Legend
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HOLY ****ING CRAP DOGY. 103 Pages man! Well, almost! You know, I'm going to print this from school. Hey, I got a loan which will suck out my life force for some time, so why not eh? Hmmm maybe I should do this in portions as to not get got. I mean caught. Oh whatever I'll leave that there.
EDIT:
Ahh **** I printed 45 pages in the next room by accident oh my oh my what an idiot I am. D:< D:< D:< I hope they don't care. I tried to cancel but **** it this computer is too great. *will wait until nightfall to retrieve these documents*
Oh wait 2 students could have printed multiple documents they will never know. But still thats alot but **** it. D:<
Edit;
Never mind I'm so awesome I printed all 103 pages yea *****es. ;3
EDIT:
Ahh **** I printed 45 pages in the next room by accident oh my oh my what an idiot I am. D:< D:< D:< I hope they don't care. I tried to cancel but **** it this computer is too great. *will wait until nightfall to retrieve these documents*
Oh wait 2 students could have printed multiple documents they will never know. But still thats alot but **** it. D:<
Edit;
Never mind I'm so awesome I printed all 103 pages yea *****es. ;3