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Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!

Dogysamich

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HERE YE, HERE YE, THE ___ COMMANDMENTS OF DOGYISM SHALL BE SPREAD UPON YE... and all that s***.

-Thou shall not ever land a good character, but will only settle into mediocrity. The only exception to ye commandment is for a game ye shant give 2 flying horse f***s about, in which case ye will hastily audible to the greatest character of them all.

-Thou shall not complete any objective in a timely manner.

-Thou shall never consider themselves anything above the infamous status of "broke"

-Thou shall partake in a daily dosage of the holy water, better known as soda...

-..Thou will also refrain from calling said soda "pop", because that's just wack.

-Thou shall never make a good recovery, but instead make a bad one and jeer merrily at those misfortunate enough to siege the moment.

-Thou shall consider all matchups for yeself here and forever "Bad", even if the matchup is 9-1 or 10-0 in ye favor.

-Thou shall classify pizza "fine dining", but only accept pizza of the surpeme stature. All other pizza are varying degrees of inferior.

-Thou shall never d.tilt with a mario, even as a slap to a character's face.

*edit* wow, almost forgot an important one (or the version I had earlier)

-Thou shall not put for the required or additional amount of effort required to complete a task, but will instead put forth a smaller or minimal amount and fill the gap with an elaborate form of BS-ardry.

... that's all I got. For now. XD

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In other news, who's goin to a f'n tourney this weekend? I mean, I havent played much melee lately (really, I havent played any), but I'm kinda depressed that the one thing im looking forward to in fighting games lately is Jwong playing Fei Long in a tourney. XD
 

TresChikon

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In regards of thy 8th Commandant of the Dogyism faith:

Of what nature would thine pizza be considered of the dubbing of supremacy?

Would thou agree that pepperoni is the fairest choice?
 

ranmaru

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I'll be goings to spoc although thats in like two weeks. I got a job too, but its out of town.

Haha, I know P-zone is so good.
 

ranmaru

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No. Doc up+b canceling in the air would be.... well, I cant really call it busted, cause this whole game is kinda busted. XD

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Dogyism. Lol. What a horrible idea. Convert to the way of being loud and obnoxious, trying to wear the brightest clothes physically possible, listening to the most random assortment of music ever, and managing to NEVER land a good character in a fricking game (unless you go back and play one with an established tier list).

I think I might actually sit down and write some guidelines to Dogyism, that s*** would be so comical.



You should make a church. Better have some tvs and cubes. and ps2's. and stuff. and PIZZA. and juice.
 

ranmaru

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Like Yoshi? I like Yoshi. And... Luigi, sometimes.
 

Vulcan55

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Im surprised you guys actually know what poker is in canada. I figured you guys played whatever that wack, unAmerican *** cardgame was from the Casino Royale movie.
That is poker.
In fact, it's "Texas" Hold-em...
Very American...
 

Dogysamich

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I feel like a complete goon just because I edited my last post so I could see my sig and ava together. I need to just retire from photoshop. XD
In regards of thy 8th Commandant of the Dogyism faith:

Of what nature would thine pizza be considered of the dubbing of supremacy?

Would thou agree that pepperoni is the fairest choice?
No. Like, an actual supreme pizza (one with all the topics). That's top tier. Although pepp is very playable.

I might be heading on over to a No Johns tomorrow if it turns out I dont have to go camping for my class. Then I'll just end up camping all day in Nanuet.
Word
Haha, I know P-zone is so good.
P-zone is on broke tier with Anthony's Pizza (the place on military bases)

lol.

I haven't seen the movie.
It's Bond before the kool gadgets and widgets. It's not bad by any stretch, but it sure as hell is different.
@ pound 4, I'm going doc vs samus for sure and maybe for peach,

Oh and maybe awkward low tiers.
.... Why Samus? I mean, it's not a bad matchup or anything it's just... THE matchup people hate to play/see/hear/smell/touch/etc.
That is poker.
In fact, it's "Texas" Hold-em...
Very American...
...-thinks-

*SNAPS FINGERS*
You got me, i forgot that they actuallY DID change it to hold 'em in the movie. I feel ********.

They originally played baccarat, and changed it becaaaaaaause who knows wtf that is anyway?

You got me vulcan, good lookin.
can u space a cape to where falco's sh dair wont hit u if u cape him?
Because of how melee works, you're more likely to NOT get it to work. It's the gripe I always have, caping only flips the model, it does absolutely NOTHING towards momentum.
mario's cape comes out more horizontal then docs...mario can but idk about doc i never tested it with him...
Show me where the hitboxes on mario's cape does more of anything than the ones on doc's
GET JANKED ON LIKE YO NAME IS KIMBO SLICE!

 

Kasumi

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I have a question: Is there a actually a percent where you can reliably jab>upsmash someone? I don't even care if it's above 100%, (Though... preferably less than 175%) as long as you can't really escape. I'm asking because I love me some frame data, and if it's doable there's some weird stuff I wanna try. If no one knows, it's cool. I'll hopefully know by Sunday when I play people again.

</I haven't played against real people in months to test this johns>
 

Kasumi

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Training mode + set CPU to desired percent is sooooooooooooo hard.
Training mode has led me to believe that lots of things are possible that aren't. They're generally related to DI though. Honestly, I hadn't thought of training mode combo counter.
 

Lixivium

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Because of how melee works, you're more likely to NOT get it to work. It's the gripe I always have, caping only flips the model, it does absolutely NOTHING towards momentum.
If only that were true when you cape Peach's up-B...:(
 

unknown522

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It's Bond before the kool gadgets and widgets. It's not bad by any stretch, but it sure as hell is different.

.... Why Samus? I mean, it's not a bad matchup or anything it's just... THE matchup people hate to play/see/hear/smell/touch/etc.
Lol bond. I'll watch it eventually.

For vs samus, I'll answer that in an hour. I'm leaving school right now.

Edit: I dunno how I would word it properly, but I guess I feel good at matchups where it's like a thinking battle, as long as I can't get gimped super easily. When I played watty at pound 3, I lost to him every game by going to the edge when I had a lead and getting gimped on the last stock. It probably wouldn't happen with doc, unless I'm facing the top 8-9 characters.
 

StealthyGunnar

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I've been trying to find a new main lately, and I've found out that I'm not terrible with Doc. XD

Now, I've been playing some lvl 9 computers since I can't play with any human players, and This is happened to me multiple times: Doc's Fair has a phantom hit somewhere in there, because I'll execute his Fair, I'll land on the ground forgetting to L-cancel, and the opponent will take damage after I have already landed?

Can someone agree or disprove this?
 

Vulcan55

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You can phantom hit with any move.
It happens when the hitbox touches the hurtbox, but they don't overlap.
 

otg

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On my 5th 4 Loko and still ****** you.
Dogysamich (12:09:26 PM): so HMW keeps hitting me up with this conference stuff
Dogysamich (12:09:35 PM): it's pretty comical, and i've been putting it off foooooooooooooor months?
DDoTWx2 (12:09:52 PM): yeah w'e
DDoTWx2 (12:10:01 PM): there is no point in doing this "conference"
Dogysamich (12:10:08 PM): yeah i know
DDoTWx2 (12:10:14 PM): what are we gonna talk about? evolving docs metagame?
DDoTWx2 (12:10:17 PM): i got a trick for that
DDoTWx2 (12:10:19 PM): its called
Dogysamich (12:10:30 PM): -waits for it-
DDoTWx2 (12:10:33 PM): moving the cursor in the character select screen to fox/falco or marth
DDoTWx2 (12:10:49 PM): thats evolving doc if i ever heard one
Dogysamich signed on at 12:11:04 PM.
Dogysamich (12:11:14 PM): sounds about right
DDoTWx2 (12:11:19 PM): *feeds lvl 39 dr. mario a rare candy*
DDoTWx2 (12:11:25 PM): dr mario is now level 40
DDoTWx2 (12:11:29 PM): DR MARIO IS EVOLVING
DDoTWx2 (12:11:41 PM): DR MARIO EVOLVED INTO A USABLE TOURNAMENT CHARACTER
DDoTWx2 (12:11:42 PM): OMG
DDoTWx2 (12:11:57 PM): immabout to go copy and paste that in the doc boards right now
Dogysamich (12:12:10 PM): LOL
 

Strong Badam

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I drink pop. soda is for noobs

10pops.
what are you, gay? stop drinking hannah montana music and start drinking caffeinated, canned beverages that have different types of acid as their 4th highest ingredient in amount.



also Boss' Doc is pretty ****in' good.
 

Dogysamich

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Yeah, I ironically DONT see alot of sheiks. Like, at TO5, I actually played Soft beforehand, who did the exact same thing. First time I'd seen a sheik in a good long time.

Sheik is one of those matchups I just play by ear and hope for the best. Kinda like I have to do jiggs now-a-day. XD
 

HomeMadeWaffles

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well first off im not "hittin" dogy up about these conferences

i just randomly ask

i ask about those conference cuz i have nothing better do

and to say wassup to you guys and whatnot( but i guess i can do that here)

i apoligize if that bothered u dogy and my bad if i got you mad otg, cuz u were gettin off in that aim convo

idk why im in these "best doc debates" with dogy, boss, and shroomed

im not good with doc

i gotta be good at the game first
 

Dogysamich

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Na see what needs to happen is that barline needs to go up.

Cause like, right now, it's like this.

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-People who win too **** much-
.
-All the good high tiers and whatnot-
.
-The leftovers from good Elite 4 pools-
*Uber Low-tier/bottom tier players* (* because that's like, a mesh)
-Random Mid Tier Greats-
.
-The Docs as a collective whole-
.
-The Above-Average Mid tier players-
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-The sheik/marth/peach players who actually venture onto smashboards-
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-All the super wack *** fox/falcos that are left-
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-Your lil brother in C-Stick mode-
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-All the other leftovers not mentioned here-
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-That guy that you hope is in your bracket so you can start work on your combo video-

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See, we're like, right there when it comes to the national level, and we need to go that way. *points up*.

We're all talkin about how we do in our area, and some of us do better than others by default for various reasons, so who cares?

What happens when there's like, regionals or nationals? We're like, barely cracking single digits unless it's something uber huge, and then we're like, fillin out the bottom of the brackets and s***.

BOSS YOU IN THIS S*** TOO NINJA XD

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But I mean, it's not like we're doing bad, it's just the obvious we can do better.
 
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