jamus
Smash Apprentice
Deva says there's absolutely nothing we can do against a good metaknight!!(i'm not suprised that nobody besides deva knows how to beat metaknight)
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Deva says there's absolutely nothing we can do against a good metaknight!!(i'm not suprised that nobody besides deva knows how to beat metaknight)
So what you are saying is you are under 16, have never attended a tourney before, and don't have any experience against players outside your friend group. Yet you think you know enough about the game to make very bold statements, backed up by logic and examples that only you yourself seem to understand.I CANT drive to any SSBB and those are the only ones that count.......at this rate i cant even get to a online tournemant (**** IT!) until my connections fixed, even so while they are fun they dont count for anything
yeah definitely, those were too fun. your sheik is the only one I've played that really gives me troubleHey Remzi right? Not much man, we need to play again , I haven't played you in forever. I loved our Sheik vs. Marth matches, we'll definitely have to play sometime soon
i went to the midnight tournament and thats it, hell y would i even WANT to go to those for so much money? i believe theres a tournement thread on this forum. dude if your older than 17 and playing this.........wow.........ok im not saying you dont have a life ill probably be playing games when im 18 but seriously, you should not have time to become as skilled as some people are claiming they are if they are 18 or older........also arent you a lil too old for nintendo games? I just figured that you would prefer something like halo (im 15 turning 16 on december btw)
i went to the midnight tournament and thats it, hell y would i even WANT to go to those for so much money? i believe theres a tournement thread on this forum. dude if your older than 17 and playing this.........wow.........ok im not saying you dont have a life ill probably be playing games when im 18 but seriously, you should not have time to become as skilled as some people are claiming they are if they are 18 or older........also arent you a lil too old for nintendo games? I just figured that you would prefer something like halo (im 15 turning 16 on december btw)
oh ya and will you guys do me a favor,
A year of online matches.......who knows maybe i never fought a good meta knight. So would you please give me the names and codes of GOOD meta knights, yes i could ask the meta knights themselves but then again they could just be pretending to be good.
ps Deva im going to be rusty so for my first 1-2 days back online i would like to fight you, mainly because you main link and i can unrust more easily fighting you. If you do not wish to that is fine
No there is not; Wolf has some weaknesses such as his recovery, MK has none. There is no worse matchup, it's not even debatable.I wish we could have our records included in our posts totals. If nintendo bothered to cater to our needs whatsoever, brawl would have been so much better when it comes to the Wifi play... I guess we always have the friend lists.
I mean, if you play link versus any high tier character, I am sure there are worst matchups than Metaknight. I personally have more problems against Wolf.
Wrong, Metaknight has a weakness. Poor defense.No there is not; Wolf has some weaknesses such as his recovery, MK has none. There is no worse matchup, it's not even debatable.
If you were referring to me with that post then, try and read properly. I wasn't spamming, I was just stating a rightful fact, which in fact helps in this discussion about Metaknight.Please do not have your own personal spam fight on these boards. It's really annoying. This is a really good and well thought out guide and I am sure Bouse would like you to use the PM tool instead of filling his guide with useless spam crap.
stfu, we're on the topic of Metaknight and we are debating whether or not Metaknight is Links worst matchup, that's not spam. If I wanted too, I could point to a lot of posts in this thread made by you that technically fall under the category of spam..........calm down and be quiet.Please do not have your own personal spam fight on these boards. It's really annoying. This is a really good and well thought out guide and I am sure Bouse would like you to use the PM tool instead of filling his guide with useless spam crap.
To add to that, the post Swordplay just made should be considered a spam.stfu, we're on the topic of Metaknight and we are debating whether or not Metaknight is Links worst matchup, that's not spam. If I wanted too, I could point to a lot of posts in this thread made by you that technically fall under the category of spam..........calm down and be quiet.
I don't care to hear a persons insight on a matchup *Darklink* When they have claimed thay have never faced anybody good at that character. It makes anything they say just begin flame wars against that person and does not help the discussion at all.If you were referring to me with that post then, try and read properly. I wasn't spamming, I was just stating a rightful fact, which in fact helps in this discussion about Metaknight.
No you are right.I don't think Samus/ZSS is a logical matchup. This is not exactly like Zelda/Sheik, or Pokemon Trainer in the sense, because the transform is pretty impractical, and only one way.
1. People who are good at Samus probably don't have the time to master another character which requires time logged in at that amount.I don't think Samus/ZSS is a logical matchup. This is not exactly like Zelda/Sheik, or Pokemon Trainer in the sense, because the transform is pretty impractical, and only one way.
Ok, I'm really just trying to help you here, if you keep posting the way you are you're gonna get flammed really hard. Tournaments generally are only 10-20 dollars to enter. And unless you live in some remote part of the US, it's not hard to find a tournament with good players near you. It doesn't matter if Wifi only averaged 1-4 frames of lag, any lag that is changing and inconsistant can have hampering effects on the players, especially when they are used to frame perfect play. NO ONE GOOD PLAYS ONLINE COMPETITIVELY. They are known as good on the internet, not for online. They go to irl tournaments and win, place well, or beat other good players. By going to an irl tournament with good players, you prove that you have played good players and that your word has some weight when you discuss. No one believes anything you say right now because you have no experience. If you actually did well against some good players irl, everyone at the tournament would know you, and would post about you on the boards, and you'd be known as a good player, and people would listen to your opinion. The gamestop tourney was a joke. Please dont use that for a reference. In real tournaments, your matches are recorded in a bracket and posted on SWF. They are skilled if they are known for beating other good players and well known in the smash community. You prove you won by beating them. The results are up for everyone to see, and good players you beat will almost always mention how well you did against them in the tournament thread. Play online for fun, but you wont find anyone good playing it competitively, so if you win, no one will care. That's what irl tournaments are for. I'm just trying to explain to you the logic of smash. It's something you need to learn fast, or else you may start to annoy the community and everyone will be flamming each and every post you make. You come off as someone that wants others to know that you understand Link as a character. If that's the case, check the tournament thread. If you live in Cali, there's definately a tournament near you with good players and a 10-20 dollar entry fee. Or dont even enter the tournament. Just money match good players. I just don't want you to dig yourself a deeper hole than you already have. It's your choice though. To listen to what I've said, or just keep going as you have been. That's all I can do for you.well it depends how much....."spare time" they have. dude im not paying $1000 just to enter a tourney. Hey you may be rich or just really like this game but either way im not paying $1000 and travelling around the world. Well as far as ive seen on the Wi-fi there is INCREDIBLY lil lag, then again i live in CA and maybe you guys have it much worse. But can you really have it THAT badly? if they are known as good players on the internet chances are they dont have many lag problems either, really if lag is as big as a issue as your making it sound i dont think they would ever be able to be considered good when they are getting their butts handed to them due to the lag. Now if i went to a tournement what would i prove? yippee i beat some random guy i dont know......no really he might have been good but still: what do i have to prove.
"Excuse me John i want you to do me a favor and go to the smash forums and state your a amazing player, oh ya and please say that i beat you"
...........well ok maybe that was a bit much but still i cant prove to you their skill level. ANYONE can enter a tournemant. There were 12 year olds in the midnight release. OH and i THINK there was a 6 year old there, or he may have been accompaning his brother. So even if they are skilled, first off how do i prove it? 2nd off how do i prove i won?
What? I don't know why you think that Samus can't KO anyone until they're at 200%. That's a huge exaggeration right there. It's also unrealistic to think that while Samus gets you at 200%, she'll be at 100%. In case you weren't aware, it is possible to rack up someone's percent damage very high while keeping yours low. I guess you haven't brawled with any good Samus players.Samus: Pretty even matchup. Her zair ***** yours, so you'll have a hard time spacing against her. Good thing is she cant kill, so by the time she get's you to 200% for a kill, you will have gotten her to at least 100 so you can kill her too.
Well, a lot of skilled Samus users don't really spam projectiles as much as her zair. And the Hylian Shield CANNOT reflect, only stop things. But what kind of a Samus user is gonna wait for you to be standing still when they shoot? They're gonna shoot when you're in the midst of something else, so that you're distracted. This takes the Hylian Sheld out of the question.both projectiles masters, som-what simular recovery, although Link has better range and samus has stronger projectiles tho slower. Then again Links shield can reflect samus's charge blast. rly this seems like the same odds as a link vs link
4-5 hits from armor pieces alone can rack up to 70% if you're using the right one.Zamus is a secondary of mine, on the other hand. One thing is that her suit parts are deadly. They have good knockback, she can glide toss with them (rather far), and since they bounce, she can abuse throwing them downwards or dropping them after a short hop (as a Link main, this comes naturally ^_^). Whether thrown or dropped, they still can give a decent amount of damage. A few hits, maybe 3-4 from the parts, and that's 40% already. Mixing that in with bairs, uairs, dsmashes, utilts......you need to be careful.
Plasma Wire will always clink with Link's d-air. U-smash overrides d-air provided you hit with the start of the move.I don't think you have to worry about her uair that much (your dair will go through it), but her upb on the ground and usmash can possibly go through your dair (I don't remember). Most of the time, usmash will be used when she's hyphen smashing.
Good ZSS players will never use F-smash. U-tilt isn't incorporated into her meta much anymore. DI-ing a d-smash does nothing, because you will be killed or comboed before the stun is over.Her bair is a kill move, watch out for it. Her utilt can connect even if you're behind her, but fortunately if she misses, there's some lag, allowing a free fsmash from Link. Her dsmash has a short range, just don't get caught in it, and if you do, start DI'ing immediately. Her fsmash isn't really much of a threat. Her dtilt is another move to watch out for, it can really set her up for some aerial moves.
Link is not one of the characters that I intended for this chainthrow to work on, and it's too inconsistent except on larger characters to be used at all.The chaingrab is the fthrow. When she fthrows, using the knowledge that she slides as well as being able to grab people out of air allows her to grab again and fthrow again. Since Link is heavy, he'll land quicker and therefore, it's easier to spot dodge this than most characters.
I see, thanks for clearing that stuff up for me. I wasn't aware that different pieces do different amounts of damage.4-5 hits from armor pieces alone can rack up to 70% if you're using the right one.
Plasma Wire will always clink with Link's d-air. U-smash overrides d-air provided you hit with the start of the move.
Good ZSS players will never use F-smash. U-tilt isn't incorporated into her meta much anymore. DI-ing a d-smash does nothing, because you will be killed or comboed before the stun is over.
Link is not one of the characters that I intended for this chainthrow to work on, and it's too inconsistent except on larger characters to be used at all.
Your skill =/= Deva's skill. This isn't an insult to you.the worst of them isnt even that laggy to the point where its going to mess up your skill.