ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Yoshi vs Marth: this matchup is a mystery to me. How do you deal with this, Vman?
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Ask VMan about Yoshi Thread (A General Yoshi Discussion)
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KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
We cannot move on until Leffen tells me how to beat Fox's nair. There are just too many way....so he listed none.
GG Europe
GG Europe
Nicknyte
Smash Lord
From what I've seen from Tim's brand of Yoshi is that being over aggressive on Marth is a bad idea since 1 counter can destroy that awesome double jump Nair that you oh so happen to use near the edge of the stage. Free kill.
Space eggs, and learn to parry well.
Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
I typed out a bunch of thoughts on the Yoshi v marth match. shall I post?
I feel like they might be a little too basic though.
I feel like they might be a little too basic though.
Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
I need to learn how to be less indecisive :/ sorry about the double post.
Well here's a bunch of thoughts/advice of the Yoshi vs Marth Match up.
Although it is a "Guide" format, that's not my intention and would acknowledge any inputs, objections, additions, ect.
I felt the Document was too large so I put in collapsed form.
Well here's a bunch of thoughts/advice of the Yoshi vs Marth Match up.
Although it is a "Guide" format, that's not my intention and would acknowledge any inputs, objections, additions, ect.
I felt the Document was too large so I put in collapsed form.
The Yoshi vs Marth match can be either extremely frustrating, or full of pleasant scenarios. It sort of boils down to the marths current play style, and how your yoshi can do against it to throw marth off balance.
First off, I can’t really recommend a specific stage. Platforms help yoshi’s mobility immensely but I find that some marths can zone really well under one of the low platforms. FD, on the other hand, having no platforms means that vertical “juggling” and platform Tech chases are eliminated, which sort of hinders both characters. Stages aside all yoshis need to know that to win/do well in this matchup requires masterful/ unorthodox spacing (Learn the range of Marths aerials, smashes, and grabs.) Before bursting marth’s defensive bubble, one needs to know where to draw a line in being a safe/yet intimidating distance.
Approaching (in general):
Since marth has no projectile, and yoshi’s egg can be rather risky to use, both characters will most likely “approach” by either bombarding their opponent with spaced aerials/tilts and grabs OR by moving around/dash dancing and generally trying to force a reaction.
Attacks and shields:
Yoshi can use his DJ armor in many cases to throw marth’s spacing off and attack him through his own “wall” of attacks. BEWARE: DJCC through marth’s attacks can get predictable, and when this happens you may lose your DJ and become easy combo food for marth.
Watch marth for patterns. This is important as yoshis need to try hard to get momentum. see a shield up too often? Grab or egg lay before marth can abuse his own grab. Yoshi’s Dthrow will put marth above you (it may lead a uair, although I believe this is Damage and DI dependent) Anyways, with marth above you, make haste to hassle him with relentless Uairs, Nairs, eggs, or maybe go for another shield grab as he lands. Egglay can also make a marths wary of shielding too much, especially if you catch them while you are airborne.
Another good tactic against shield happy marths is to look for shield pokes. Marth’s head and feet can easily be clipped, especially if the opponent does no tilt their shield. Fast DJC Nair’s and jab/tile mixups can also provide adequate shield pressure. Sometimes, a completely agro Yoshi will overwhelm Marth. This can lead to a shield poke bonanza.
As mentioned before, Yoshi can DJCC marth’s attacks spacing (some to quite high percentages) and begin a rain of DJC uairs/nairs. I recommend Yoshi’s become somewhat proficient in spotting ideal situations and being able to execute quick DJCC to minimize risk and maximize destruction. Being able to DJCC well will force marths to rethink their Entire spacing strategy, while this may be bad in for us in the future, it will benefit us now.
Common marth “approaches” that you will most likely encounter are SH Fairs and SH nairs.
*Be precise in DJCC the Nair, sometimes, when trying to attack in between the first and second attack, you may begin an aerial but get hit out of it, LOSING your DJ.
It is not always necessary to take damage. Use Yoshi’s mobility and Platforms (if accessible) to “Zone” and bait approaches. Full on approaches (fairs or nairs) by marths can be stopped cold/ or traded with an up-angled ftilt, up smash, Utilt (maybe).
Parrying:
To emphasize “Watch marth for patterns.” Predictability can hinder marth greatly, especially if one can spot it and take action. I find that parry>DJC nair/uair can be useful in this match up. First of all, If you can manage to consistently parry attacks, more power to yah. But what I feel can be important is the Parry>DJC as a whole. While Parrying has a very small frame window, it can be quickly followed up with a DJ. This can give yoshi a second chance to screw with opponents attacks, since if on missed a parry and the opponent reacts with an attacks, Yoshi can continue to lay down aggression with a quick DJCC after said missed parry. I’m not certain of the frame window from when yoshi starts his grounded jump to when he can DJ. <(these frames being your vulnerable ones if a parry doesn’t “parry” an attack)
More thought on this ^?
*tasty hint: Lightshield can get you out of sticky situations.
Edge Guarding/killing and Recovering: **For recovering, knowledge of Yoshi’s DJ and how it reacts to other characters moves is important. KNOW YOUR CHARACTER**
Getting marth off the stage is nice but egdeguarding him is highly important.
Marth recovering High/mid can be difficult to stop, but don’t let his sword bring you down.
Tactics to hit him away may include Nair, Bair, eggs, or smashes.
To deter you marth can use fair/bair/nair to hit yoshi away, or double jump over you and use Dair until he lands again. DJCC nair his aerial attacks to hit him offstage again, or Uair if he is in kill percentage. Eggs work well to rack up damage, but (depending on DI and where they hit) eggs may not hit marth away but instead send him in the vertical direction. (These can be used, Bairs also work well, to set up a vertical kill.)
^needs more work*
Watch for Marths recovering low/for the edge and take action to deny stage and ledge. Before marth gets close to ledge, try bombarding with eggs and maybe weak nair/dairs to perhaps get damage or a gimp.
Once marth gets near the stage, try and react appropriately. Yoshi’s quick edge grab (Run off fall and RDJ) can “Ninja” the edge from sweetspot recovering Marths. If this tactic is spotted and a marth UpBs onto the stage, take advantage of his lag time. One should be able to Waveland on from the ledge, past marth and Dsmash/Fshash them back off the stage. (Uair/up smash may be used to killl vertically at high percentages) In cases where marth Double jumps after seeing you grab ledge, make use of ledge inv. Frames and Nair him back. DJ armor frames can also be helpful when a marth fairs/Neutral Bs.
ECEs can be useful when marth is recovering. If an egg hits him, you can make use of the hit stun and Nair/uair away for a kill. Be Careful though: ECEs can be spotted and stopped by a fair or UpB, possibly gimping you.
Dtilts and Dsmashes can be devastating on marth as they gimp him HARD.
Yoshi’s shouldn’t have too hard a time recovering. When recovering marths tend to usually just aerial you in the air. Making sure you don’t have too much damage, the attack shouldn’t stop your DJ. Marths do catch on though, and will wait until Yoshi’s DJ is over to begin edge guarding/gimping you. (Platform stages help Yoshi recover High with more safety for the distance to land on a platform and regain DJ is closer than say…FD) As a mixup, Try stopping your high recovery with a DownB to the ledge, or perhaps an High/late ECE. Grabbing ledge can be a difficult dangerous task if Marth is waiting for you there already. Doing a DJC to ECE from a distance can be risky, but works a mixup if marth expects a high recovery. If recovering low, react to what marth does. If he edgehogs , watch for Bairs or Dairs, as the are the attacks you will most likely eat trying to get back on stage. Watch your damage and act appropriately to how Yoshi’s DJ will react to an attack.
DI up so You are not limited to a low recovery <(half obvious)
Killing marth can be tricky since finding “Openings” in a marths defense can be difficult. I say Openings with quotations because Yoshi finds them in a different manner.
Uair and Usmash can be used to kill marth vertically quite well, and since he dies off the top at somewhat lowhigh percentages. Usmash has nice range and speed and can be used to hit marth in between his Wall of aerials. Uair’s can be tricky to land sometimes. Try getting marth above you, perhaps with Dthrow or egg lay, and force a Uair (even if it means a DJCC uair).
Bair and eggs are perfect set ups for Uair kills. Bairing a shielding marth Shield pokes quite easily and may leave him vulnerable to a tasty uair. Using Eggs can be tricky, as they can be broken easily with an aerial, and in other cases, power shielded. Improvisations with eggs are the way to go.
They can perform shield pokes. And sometimes bounce on opponents shield and apply shield pressure.
Strong nairs also work well in killing marth, along with well space Fsmash. Although risky, the pullback of Yoshi’s Fsmash can be used to quickly avoid marths attacks (lets say His Fsmash) and hit him right after.
Marths Grabs:
Grabs are a key component to Marths game. You will most likely be grabbed by him multiple times. It is important to DI and react properly to throws to minimize damage.
Dthrow and Bthrow need to be DI’d away to avoid a quick tip at certain damages. Marth’s throw force you to play a game of getting Tech chased if you DI away or chian grabbed if you DI to avoid Teching. Also, Be careful with DI’ing in as marth can Utilt at this moment and Either 1(juggle you with more u tilts/uairs or 2 break your double jump at mid percenages and combo you anyways.
^(I need more input on this area)
Whats also important is NOT getting grabbed. Avoid attacking marths shield head on with anything except maybe spaced fairs. Shield pressure and crossovers work nicely to wear down marths shield and keep him on his toes about shielding. Grabbing and egg lays as mixups are suggested to prevent shield grabs. A dash dancing marth is a good indicator that a grab is wanted. Nonetheless, always keep mobility up by dash dancing yourself, and wave dashing/platform usage. Don’t be tempted to attack his dash dance, as this is what marth wants and will most likely end up in Yoshi getting grabbed or eating swords for dinner.
I suppose, when you’re feeling courageous , one can challenge the dash dance by either running directly towards it and play a game of chicken with marth.
In conclusion, Yoshis…. Know your DJ and how it reacts to attacks, improvise with mobility, DJC, Parry, Eggs and platforms, Avoid doing headlong approaches as they will most likely lead to getting grabbed, Along with keeping marth above you to rack up damage, Do not stay above marth, especially on FD.
First off, I can’t really recommend a specific stage. Platforms help yoshi’s mobility immensely but I find that some marths can zone really well under one of the low platforms. FD, on the other hand, having no platforms means that vertical “juggling” and platform Tech chases are eliminated, which sort of hinders both characters. Stages aside all yoshis need to know that to win/do well in this matchup requires masterful/ unorthodox spacing (Learn the range of Marths aerials, smashes, and grabs.) Before bursting marth’s defensive bubble, one needs to know where to draw a line in being a safe/yet intimidating distance.
Approaching (in general):
Since marth has no projectile, and yoshi’s egg can be rather risky to use, both characters will most likely “approach” by either bombarding their opponent with spaced aerials/tilts and grabs OR by moving around/dash dancing and generally trying to force a reaction.
Attacks and shields:
Yoshi can use his DJ armor in many cases to throw marth’s spacing off and attack him through his own “wall” of attacks. BEWARE: DJCC through marth’s attacks can get predictable, and when this happens you may lose your DJ and become easy combo food for marth.
Watch marth for patterns. This is important as yoshis need to try hard to get momentum. see a shield up too often? Grab or egg lay before marth can abuse his own grab. Yoshi’s Dthrow will put marth above you (it may lead a uair, although I believe this is Damage and DI dependent) Anyways, with marth above you, make haste to hassle him with relentless Uairs, Nairs, eggs, or maybe go for another shield grab as he lands. Egglay can also make a marths wary of shielding too much, especially if you catch them while you are airborne.
Another good tactic against shield happy marths is to look for shield pokes. Marth’s head and feet can easily be clipped, especially if the opponent does no tilt their shield. Fast DJC Nair’s and jab/tile mixups can also provide adequate shield pressure. Sometimes, a completely agro Yoshi will overwhelm Marth. This can lead to a shield poke bonanza.
As mentioned before, Yoshi can DJCC marth’s attacks spacing (some to quite high percentages) and begin a rain of DJC uairs/nairs. I recommend Yoshi’s become somewhat proficient in spotting ideal situations and being able to execute quick DJCC to minimize risk and maximize destruction. Being able to DJCC well will force marths to rethink their Entire spacing strategy, while this may be bad in for us in the future, it will benefit us now.
Common marth “approaches” that you will most likely encounter are SH Fairs and SH nairs.
*Be precise in DJCC the Nair, sometimes, when trying to attack in between the first and second attack, you may begin an aerial but get hit out of it, LOSING your DJ.
It is not always necessary to take damage. Use Yoshi’s mobility and Platforms (if accessible) to “Zone” and bait approaches. Full on approaches (fairs or nairs) by marths can be stopped cold/ or traded with an up-angled ftilt, up smash, Utilt (maybe).
Parrying:
To emphasize “Watch marth for patterns.” Predictability can hinder marth greatly, especially if one can spot it and take action. I find that parry>DJC nair/uair can be useful in this match up. First of all, If you can manage to consistently parry attacks, more power to yah. But what I feel can be important is the Parry>DJC as a whole. While Parrying has a very small frame window, it can be quickly followed up with a DJ. This can give yoshi a second chance to screw with opponents attacks, since if on missed a parry and the opponent reacts with an attacks, Yoshi can continue to lay down aggression with a quick DJCC after said missed parry. I’m not certain of the frame window from when yoshi starts his grounded jump to when he can DJ. <(these frames being your vulnerable ones if a parry doesn’t “parry” an attack)
More thought on this ^?
*tasty hint: Lightshield can get you out of sticky situations.
Edge Guarding/killing and Recovering: **For recovering, knowledge of Yoshi’s DJ and how it reacts to other characters moves is important. KNOW YOUR CHARACTER**
Getting marth off the stage is nice but egdeguarding him is highly important.
Marth recovering High/mid can be difficult to stop, but don’t let his sword bring you down.
Tactics to hit him away may include Nair, Bair, eggs, or smashes.
To deter you marth can use fair/bair/nair to hit yoshi away, or double jump over you and use Dair until he lands again. DJCC nair his aerial attacks to hit him offstage again, or Uair if he is in kill percentage. Eggs work well to rack up damage, but (depending on DI and where they hit) eggs may not hit marth away but instead send him in the vertical direction. (These can be used, Bairs also work well, to set up a vertical kill.)
^needs more work*
Watch for Marths recovering low/for the edge and take action to deny stage and ledge. Before marth gets close to ledge, try bombarding with eggs and maybe weak nair/dairs to perhaps get damage or a gimp.
Once marth gets near the stage, try and react appropriately. Yoshi’s quick edge grab (Run off fall and RDJ) can “Ninja” the edge from sweetspot recovering Marths. If this tactic is spotted and a marth UpBs onto the stage, take advantage of his lag time. One should be able to Waveland on from the ledge, past marth and Dsmash/Fshash them back off the stage. (Uair/up smash may be used to killl vertically at high percentages) In cases where marth Double jumps after seeing you grab ledge, make use of ledge inv. Frames and Nair him back. DJ armor frames can also be helpful when a marth fairs/Neutral Bs.
ECEs can be useful when marth is recovering. If an egg hits him, you can make use of the hit stun and Nair/uair away for a kill. Be Careful though: ECEs can be spotted and stopped by a fair or UpB, possibly gimping you.
Dtilts and Dsmashes can be devastating on marth as they gimp him HARD.
Yoshi’s shouldn’t have too hard a time recovering. When recovering marths tend to usually just aerial you in the air. Making sure you don’t have too much damage, the attack shouldn’t stop your DJ. Marths do catch on though, and will wait until Yoshi’s DJ is over to begin edge guarding/gimping you. (Platform stages help Yoshi recover High with more safety for the distance to land on a platform and regain DJ is closer than say…FD) As a mixup, Try stopping your high recovery with a DownB to the ledge, or perhaps an High/late ECE. Grabbing ledge can be a difficult dangerous task if Marth is waiting for you there already. Doing a DJC to ECE from a distance can be risky, but works a mixup if marth expects a high recovery. If recovering low, react to what marth does. If he edgehogs , watch for Bairs or Dairs, as the are the attacks you will most likely eat trying to get back on stage. Watch your damage and act appropriately to how Yoshi’s DJ will react to an attack.
DI up so You are not limited to a low recovery <(half obvious)
Killing marth can be tricky since finding “Openings” in a marths defense can be difficult. I say Openings with quotations because Yoshi finds them in a different manner.
Uair and Usmash can be used to kill marth vertically quite well, and since he dies off the top at somewhat lowhigh percentages. Usmash has nice range and speed and can be used to hit marth in between his Wall of aerials. Uair’s can be tricky to land sometimes. Try getting marth above you, perhaps with Dthrow or egg lay, and force a Uair (even if it means a DJCC uair).
Bair and eggs are perfect set ups for Uair kills. Bairing a shielding marth Shield pokes quite easily and may leave him vulnerable to a tasty uair. Using Eggs can be tricky, as they can be broken easily with an aerial, and in other cases, power shielded. Improvisations with eggs are the way to go.
They can perform shield pokes. And sometimes bounce on opponents shield and apply shield pressure.
Strong nairs also work well in killing marth, along with well space Fsmash. Although risky, the pullback of Yoshi’s Fsmash can be used to quickly avoid marths attacks (lets say His Fsmash) and hit him right after.
Marths Grabs:
Grabs are a key component to Marths game. You will most likely be grabbed by him multiple times. It is important to DI and react properly to throws to minimize damage.
Dthrow and Bthrow need to be DI’d away to avoid a quick tip at certain damages. Marth’s throw force you to play a game of getting Tech chased if you DI away or chian grabbed if you DI to avoid Teching. Also, Be careful with DI’ing in as marth can Utilt at this moment and Either 1(juggle you with more u tilts/uairs or 2 break your double jump at mid percenages and combo you anyways.
^(I need more input on this area)
Whats also important is NOT getting grabbed. Avoid attacking marths shield head on with anything except maybe spaced fairs. Shield pressure and crossovers work nicely to wear down marths shield and keep him on his toes about shielding. Grabbing and egg lays as mixups are suggested to prevent shield grabs. A dash dancing marth is a good indicator that a grab is wanted. Nonetheless, always keep mobility up by dash dancing yourself, and wave dashing/platform usage. Don’t be tempted to attack his dash dance, as this is what marth wants and will most likely end up in Yoshi getting grabbed or eating swords for dinner.
I suppose, when you’re feeling courageous , one can challenge the dash dance by either running directly towards it and play a game of chicken with marth.
In conclusion, Yoshis…. Know your DJ and how it reacts to attacks, improvise with mobility, DJC, Parry, Eggs and platforms, Avoid doing headlong approaches as they will most likely lead to getting grabbed, Along with keeping marth above you to rack up damage, Do not stay above marth, especially on FD.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Whoa. That's a lot of good stuff. I'll read when I'm less tired.
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
@Nogzor's - any post is better than no post... ALSO.. I will be there Saturday for the tourney..
@Chivalruse - which idea? how does the double Yoshi's work? in teams?
@Chizzles - Yoshi vs Falcon, is fun/annoying... depends on the type of Falcon, and type of player you're playing against... I've played Hax, and GG7, it really depends on the player...
Yeah any insights on anything is available... I'm gettin ready to type my thoughts vs Marth with my experiences vs all the Marth players at Pound V, specially w/my sets vs Weon-X, and Azen.
@Chivalruse - which idea? how does the double Yoshi's work? in teams?
@Chizzles - Yoshi vs Falcon, is fun/annoying... depends on the type of Falcon, and type of player you're playing against... I've played Hax, and GG7, it really depends on the player...
Yeah any insights on anything is available... I'm gettin ready to type my thoughts vs Marth with my experiences vs all the Marth players at Pound V, specially w/my sets vs Weon-X, and Azen.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
I wasn't the one who asked about double Yoshi. 
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
Moooo ^^ come back... miss you man... thanks for chatting w/me on AIM.. I learned alot from you...n_n
Yoshi players rock <3
will continue the Yoshi chat tomorow... and of course discuss Marth... all players invited.. and chivalruse.. I'll get to what you were asking too. ^^
Yoshi players rock <3
will continue the Yoshi chat tomorow... and of course discuss Marth... all players invited.. and chivalruse.. I'll get to what you were asking too. ^^
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
What's your AIM screen name, Vman? Mine's just "ChivalRuse."
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
I added you where you at? 
leffen
Smash Champion
uhhh, add me on aim : dezapplepie.
Ill write more when I feel better, flu ftl >_>.
Ill write more when I feel better, flu ftl >_>.
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
awwwwwww boooooooo.. kk adding you right now..
get better man
get better man
leffen
Smash Champion
I hope >_>.
Also I cant come to G2... ppl didnt let me come since Im under 18 >_>. Fml lol.
( tho this means Im gonna focus on Yoshi only for BEAST II since I wont be able to travel to USA until next summer / apex prob =/ )
Also I cant come to G2... ppl didnt let me come since Im under 18 >_>. Fml lol.
( tho this means Im gonna focus on Yoshi only for BEAST II since I wont be able to travel to USA until next summer / apex prob =/ )
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
double booo... ><; well dang... well either way hope you get better man.. hope all gets better..
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Man. I hope I can make it to Zenith to see Axe again.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Awww, Leffen that sucks, I was looking forward to playing you. All trash talk aside.
Is there no way you can possibly make it to Genesis 2?
Is there no way you can possibly make it to Genesis 2?
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
@ Ka0star: Might want to read this.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
I saw it...I just dont know what ppl he talking about lol. Like his PPl(parents) or the official ur under 18 so we wont let u go anywhere ppl. Or like the Group of Euro*****s wont let him tag along.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Oh okay. It's just that he made it sound like there was no chance of him making it, then you were like "I hope you can make it." Lol.
leffen
Smash Champion
Its not my parents or anything lols, its ajp+jack who from sweden. They booked the roadtrip all swedes are going on and simply wanted people over 18.
I hope I can figure something out, gonna talk to some people... I have the money >_>
ps. I still think its kinda ****ty since they chose to lend over 4000 dollars to ppl who couldnt afford going. Out of these ppl theres one who doesnt wanna go + doesnt play smash, several who dont intend to pay back in the foreseeable future, and several who didnt sign up until the last minute. I was the first one to confirm >_>.'
/emo
I hope I can figure something out, gonna talk to some people... I have the money >_>
ps. I still think its kinda ****ty since they chose to lend over 4000 dollars to ppl who couldnt afford going. Out of these ppl theres one who doesnt wanna go + doesnt play smash, several who dont intend to pay back in the foreseeable future, and several who didnt sign up until the last minute. I was the first one to confirm >_>.'
/emo
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Thats actually a little ****ty...reason being...in this country 18 doesnt get you ****.
It might be that im 22, and dont remember the few lil rights I gained when I was 18, but u cant drink until 21...18 yr olds can only buy cigs and blunt wraps.
**** even posted in the genesis thread, about how they owe money haha.
It might be that im 22, and dont remember the few lil rights I gained when I was 18, but u cant drink until 21...18 yr olds can only buy cigs and blunt wraps.
**** even posted in the genesis thread, about how they owe money haha.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Those agists!
I bet you can convince them to let you go (or at least money match them for the rights. Lol). You got this.
I bet you can convince them to let you go (or at least money match them for the rights. Lol). You got this.
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
haha ^ what he said leffen, MM match them for spots.. bust out that Falco/Yoshi.. and take em to town
leffen
Smash Champion
hopefully it will work out.
I also think that the 18 argument is horrible. And about age= more mature ... I dont really see how people who failed / dropped out of school, people who have huge debts + not enough money to afford food everyday yet refuses to search for a job, people who have declared mental illnesses and neither still dont s
how any interest until the last day are so stunningly mature. Oh and they are under the age of 21 lol.
W/e, I better stop writing. extremely high fever + heavy medication isnt the best idea lol
I also think that the 18 argument is horrible. And about age= more mature ... I dont really see how people who failed / dropped out of school, people who have huge debts + not enough money to afford food everyday yet refuses to search for a job, people who have declared mental illnesses and neither still dont s
how any interest until the last day are so stunningly mature. Oh and they are under the age of 21 lol.
W/e, I better stop writing. extremely high fever + heavy medication isnt the best idea lol
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
rest up man
we'll talk later or so...
we'll talk later or so...
Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
Hope yah feel better leffen )
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btw before you retaliate, you DON'T want to go down this road, believe me
Good idea!
on topic: what moves gimp yoshi out of his super armor at 0?
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
Lol!?... Yoshi and gimping Yoshi are actually pretty tough to put together.... specially considering at 0%....sadly tho...
Falco's shine... does exist..
Falco's shine... does exist..
leffen
Smash Champion
This. Though falcos shine doesnt gimp yoshi that easily... since it normaly sends you can usually uair / airdodge ( to win/dodge dair ) to just gain height.Lol!?... Yoshi and gimping Yoshi are actually pretty tough to put together.... specially considering at 0%....sadly tho...
Falco's shine... does exist..
@ Rocky: You are one of the main reasons I couldnt go lmfao. GJ
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Ive had some success with turn around shine dair vs yoshi lol. Turn around in hopes of getting a better angle, from falcos perspective and the shine knocking him out of his super armor.
But that could just be bad memory and most likely a ****ty yoshi haha.
But that could just be bad memory and most likely a ****ty yoshi haha.
Heard about leffen being angry at me in here so just clearing up a few things (since people start asking me questions...).
The "age limit" at 18 was purely artificial, as that's the age you're and "adult" in Sweden, and that's the "requirement" we had. leffen is by far not an adult, and this is a 2 week roadtrip in a country far, far away. Had there been less people able to go, leffen would've been allowed to join us to fill up the spots.
The one with a "declared mental illness" is the guy who is literally paying for the whole party. All of our flights, the RV, everything. Of course we all (except one) will pay him back when we can.
The one you say didn't even want to go... that was *only* because he already owes so much money. He's quite possibly the poorest smasher on earth. But we were "kind enough" to pay for his tickets "behind his back", because we want him to at least experience something as epic as this in his life.
The "age limit" at 18 was purely artificial, as that's the age you're and "adult" in Sweden, and that's the "requirement" we had. leffen is by far not an adult, and this is a 2 week roadtrip in a country far, far away. Had there been less people able to go, leffen would've been allowed to join us to fill up the spots.
The one with a "declared mental illness" is the guy who is literally paying for the whole party. All of our flights, the RV, everything. Of course we all (except one) will pay him back when we can.
The one you say didn't even want to go... that was *only* because he already owes so much money. He's quite possibly the poorest smasher on earth. But we were "kind enough" to pay for his tickets "behind his back", because we want him to at least experience something as epic as this in his life.
Beat!
Smash Master
Lol 5 swedes viewing
leffen
Smash Champion
not gonna discuss this here.
Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
I've ocassionally been gimped at the beginning of my double jump by both Doc's and Marios Up B.
Any idea as to why this happens? If it's consistent?
*might test later*
Any idea as to why this happens? If it's consistent?
*might test later*
darkgirku
Smash Journeyman
lmao yeah, sometimes I purposely go for it as mario when recovering, hoping for the UpB to eat yoshi's double jump and send him behind me for an easy gimp. Works sometimes and im just like ._. lol
Rubyiris
Smash Hero
vmayne, using ellipsis doesn't make you unique, it makes reading your posts irritating.
<3 you anyways tho.
look at it like this, try reading your posts out loud. you sound like the asthmatic kid from Malcolm in the middle.
<3 you anyways tho.
look at it like this, try reading your posts out loud. you sound like the asthmatic kid from Malcolm in the middle.
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
^ I do what i do son.... lol
And i'll keep doin it regardless... lol, cuz... that's just me... the rest of SWF... finds a way to deal with it.... You will.. too eventually...
jus sayin
And i'll keep doin it regardless... lol, cuz... that's just me... the rest of SWF... finds a way to deal with it.... You will.. too eventually...
jus sayin