Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
lol, that's good to hear. =)))
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Ask VMan about Yoshi Thread (A General Yoshi Discussion)
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ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
lol i was just watching that. =)))
darkgirku
Smash Journeyman
Good shiz leffen! surprised at your yoshi haha. prettty good =D
Falco's tearin it up too
Falco's tearin it up too
leffen
Smash Champion
UM. UH. ty, but honestly I feel like that was the worst yoshi match I played all tournament ><. I ***** pools and then 3 falcos straight in bracket and then got a headache and wanted money so I went falco a little... And then I changed my mind (or well, the headache went away) and played for fun only instead but I had lost all yoshi flow so I just went falco lololol.'
/rant
tyvm
/rant
tyvm
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
Good stuff Leffen! 
Making yoshi's proud
@Leffen- you weren't necessarily playing bad.... you weren't playing nearly as well as it seems you could have...your execution, could be better....and ofc "parries" do some wonders on spacies... parrying alone.. is a major key that got me wins vs azen, weon-x, and kept me in control vs spacies.. at Pound V, and to bracket even...I'm sure it can do wonders for you as well. n_n
Making yoshi's proud
@Leffen- you weren't necessarily playing bad.... you weren't playing nearly as well as it seems you could have...your execution, could be better....and ofc "parries" do some wonders on spacies... parrying alone.. is a major key that got me wins vs azen, weon-x, and kept me in control vs spacies.. at Pound V, and to bracket even...I'm sure it can do wonders for you as well. n_n
darkgirku
Smash Journeyman
@Leffen,
hmm yeah, I didn't see much of parrying or djc counters or even shield pressure, but other than that, your movement overall looked pretty darn solid.
Looking forward to more yoshi vids from you eventually haha
hmm yeah, I didn't see much of parrying or djc counters or even shield pressure, but other than that, your movement overall looked pretty darn solid.
Looking forward to more yoshi vids from you eventually haha
leffen
Smash Champion
I usually spam Powershields / parrys vs falco... I almost never miss parrys on lasers etc.., tbh I just wasnt in my Yoshi mode (CW also didnt want me to play Yoshi ;D)) and he suffers so hard from random flubbs >_>. But still, I wanted to get something recorded from going almost all Yoshi at a big tournament, idc if I lost the set lolz.
Parrying is pretty hard vs a great falco/fox like CW who is already used to mixing it up vs perfectly excecuted powershield->dsmashes (Armada :<) but I used it pretty well in friendlies vs him ;D
also its fun making every falco suprised/start to argue against me when I tell them the matchup is one of the hardest in the game.
I'm going to Finland this thursday, I dont know if I'm going to play yoshi or not but honestly I'm leaning towards playing falco/fox to make some cash (the genesis roadtrip will cost a fkn fortune >
and there isn't supposed to be any recording anyways >_>.
Parrying is pretty hard vs a great falco/fox like CW who is already used to mixing it up vs perfectly excecuted powershield->dsmashes (Armada :<) but I used it pretty well in friendlies vs him ;D
also its fun making every falco suprised/start to argue against me when I tell them the matchup is one of the hardest in the game.
I'm going to Finland this thursday, I dont know if I'm going to play yoshi or not but honestly I'm leaning towards playing falco/fox to make some cash (the genesis roadtrip will cost a fkn fortune >
and there isn't supposed to be any recording anyways >_>.
Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
Good luck in finland, Yo!
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
aight then leffen lol
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Leffen's a beast.
Captain Smuckers
Smash Journeyman
hoppin on the bandwagon, go leffen!
leffen
Smash Champion
Lol, I has fanboys omgomgomg.
naah, but good news guys, there will be recording in finland so I will try to get as much as possible recorded lol.
naah, but good news guys, there will be recording in finland so I will try to get as much as possible recorded lol.
Beat!
Smash Master
I thought you were gonna go all spacies in Finland
darkgirku
Smash Journeyman
now he hasta go yoshi
FOR THE FANBOYS
FOR THE FANBOYS
leffen
Smash Champion
placed 2nd at the tournament, went mostly falco (some yoshi although I played kinda bad...******** schedule with brawl and melee brackets going on at the same time made me go falco >_>).
about ~10 hours of yoshi footage got recorded tho ;D
about ~10 hours of yoshi footage got recorded tho ;D
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
If this were a post on Facebook, I'd like it.
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
good stuff!!
yoshi boards have been lookin a lil bleak, Many Yoshi players are willing to help new players, let's not let this thread die....Leffen, Lil Fumi, Nogz, Girku, Mind trick i'm sure i'm missing others, are still active Yoshi's. Just because I've retired doesn't mean i'm not willing to pass on any knowledge i've accumulated... I'm sure i've still got it for the most part n_n
Let's go Yoshi boards..
yoshi boards have been lookin a lil bleak, Many Yoshi players are willing to help new players, let's not let this thread die....Leffen, Lil Fumi, Nogz, Girku, Mind trick i'm sure i'm missing others, are still active Yoshi's. Just because I've retired doesn't mean i'm not willing to pass on any knowledge i've accumulated...
I'm sure i've still got it for the most part n_nLet's go Yoshi boards..
Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
Mmm.. heh, this thread wont die. I lurk around way to much for that to happen. 
Looking forward to any sort of new yoshi footage.
* also... i found some of Mindtricks recent matches a little while ago.
I was gonna let him post them here himself, but i suppose I could leave this link here.
>>>http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=302267 (in the loser bracket near the bottom of the first post)
Looking forward to any sort of new yoshi footage.
* also... i found some of Mindtricks recent matches a little while ago.
I was gonna let him post them here himself, but i suppose I could leave this link here.
>>>http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=302267 (in the loser bracket near the bottom of the first post)
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
So much respect for you guys who use Yoshi in tourney. Agh. I wish I had that kind of skill with low tiers.
Leffen
I wish I was as good a leffen.
Watched some of the videos.
Colour me impressed (I think its sort of a mauve colour).
I wish I was as good a leffen.
Watched some of the videos.
Colour me impressed (I think its sort of a mauve colour).
Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
lol
Mauve colored yoshi would be interesting ;D
Mauve colored yoshi would be interesting ;D
yoshiiscool
Smash Journeyman
I had to google it to see what mauve was... but yea, I totally want a yoshi that color.
Bamesy
Smash Ace
Dtilt knocks everyone down at 0%...
That's how beast it is.
I'm playing melee in June... with Yoshi
That's how beast it is.
I'm playing melee in June... with Yoshi
Seeing posts from Bringer and Moo on the same page made me smile. :D
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
@ Bamesy: You also can't CC punish it because it pushes you back too far.
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depends on that character's traction and weight
leffen
Smash Champion
http://ajpanton.se/ssbm/110429-Tampora2/Others/B-110430-115730-leffen(Yoshi)-(Fox)-BF.mkv
http://ajpanton.se/ssbm/110429-Tampora2/Others/C-110430-192138-leffen(Yoshi)-(Fox)-YS.mkv
http://ajpanton.se/ssbm/110429-Tampora2/Others/C-110430-185345-leffen(Yoshi)-(CFalcon)-BF.mkv
http://ajpanton.se/ssbm/110429-Tampora2/Others/C-110430-192138-leffen(Yoshi)-(Fox)-YS.mkv
^some random *** friendlies from the tournament last month lol. They are neither great or serious but w/e, maybe they will breathe some life into this thread. or i will have to start trolling again
http://ajpanton.se/ssbm/110429-Tampora2/Others/C-110430-192138-leffen(Yoshi)-(Fox)-YS.mkv
http://ajpanton.se/ssbm/110429-Tampora2/Others/C-110430-185345-leffen(Yoshi)-(CFalcon)-BF.mkv
http://ajpanton.se/ssbm/110429-Tampora2/Others/C-110430-192138-leffen(Yoshi)-(Fox)-YS.mkv
^some random *** friendlies from the tournament last month lol. They are neither great or serious but w/e, maybe they will breathe some life into this thread. or i will have to start trolling again
Nogzor'z
Smash Journeyman
is there any particular reason why i can never watch any of leffen's matches?
It makes me sad(
*I blame my lappy :/
It makes me sad
(*I blame my lappy :/
Mind Trick
Smash Ace
Your media player probably can't handle the .mkv extension,
VLC would be a good choice.
Edit because nobody posts here anymore.
I'm finally at the point where I'm completely done with yoshi, everyone in my region knows how to play the matchup and the good players abuse his weaknesses even more to the point it's just not worth the effort to deal with stupid broken stuff lol. Safe for the occasional low tier stuff that somehow recently was an event again (=D), consider me a fox main =P
VLC would be a good choice.
Edit because nobody posts here anymore.
I'm finally at the point where I'm completely done with yoshi, everyone in my region knows how to play the matchup and the good players abuse his weaknesses even more to the point it's just not worth the effort to deal with stupid broken stuff lol. Safe for the occasional low tier stuff that somehow recently was an event again (=D), consider me a fox main =P
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
^Dislikes.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Ew. Fox. I like low tiers.
~Twitch~
Smash Master
man...i'm tryin to play yoshi more but my brother just camps me and destroys me when i try to approach cuz he's figured out yoshi's weaknesses. gaaay my brother is the best in the world...oh well, i always manage to get a stock off.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Kevin is pretty good.
Rubyiris
Smash Hero
Yoshi sucks play Falco.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
Twitch is a Fox main.
Mind Trick
Smash Ace
Although ruby just random as **** popped out of nowhere with a post, there is a lot of thruth in his post lol
I went 100% fox yesterday at a small tourney at zgetto (~20 people but the elite 4 + amsah all present lol) and I did better than I ever would if I had played Yoshi. Finished 7th but I feel like I'm closing the gap if only a little bit to the top players slowly. Funny thing is I don't even own a gamecube anymore and hardly play, but I still keep up with vids and think about the game.
I used to think Yoshi still had potential to be discovered, but honestly I can't see him ever competing with (most if not all of) the top tiers. Vman did an awesome job at that one big national where he made bracket, but I feel like it was mostly just because no one in america has EVER played a Yoshi. For every new strategy/trick/combo/whatever you come up with for Yoshi, the people you play will get better at the matchup and just abuse your glaring weaknesses, at least that's how I strongly feel right now.
I'd like to hear how Vman experienced his pool matches with Amsah, one of the few people who had MU experience at that tourney (I can't remember which one it was lol, pound?)
I went 100% fox yesterday at a small tourney at zgetto (~20 people but the elite 4 + amsah all present lol) and I did better than I ever would if I had played Yoshi. Finished 7th but I feel like I'm closing the gap if only a little bit to the top players slowly. Funny thing is I don't even own a gamecube anymore and hardly play, but I still keep up with vids and think about the game.
I used to think Yoshi still had potential to be discovered, but honestly I can't see him ever competing with (most if not all of) the top tiers. Vman did an awesome job at that one big national where he made bracket, but I feel like it was mostly just because no one in america has EVER played a Yoshi. For every new strategy/trick/combo/whatever you come up with for Yoshi, the people you play will get better at the matchup and just abuse your glaring weaknesses, at least that's how I strongly feel right now.
I'd like to hear how Vman experienced his pool matches with Amsah, one of the few people who had MU experience at that tourney (I can't remember which one it was lol, pound?)
Beat!
Smash Master
It was Pound V.
leffen
Smash Champion
meh mind trick stop wussing out. All of your problems come from you being the worse player and not tapping yoshis true potential tbh.
You get a new combo. They adapt more to Yoshi. You adapt more to then. Still an overall gain.
Your problem is though, that you rely waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much on gimmicks and stuff that has true counters. Yoshi has a lot of legit **** that doesnt have a hard counter but I never see you use them.
And what are Yoshis "glaring weaknesses"? Cause I dont see em. And before you say anything about matchup experience, Im pretty sure the people I play have WAY more experience on how to counter yoshis underlying weaknesses (mainly because I tell them and because of Svampen).
random shizz:
Just came home from a national tournament, placed 2nd in teams and in singles. I didnt use Yoshi at all since I'm preparing for genesis 2. Not using yoshi is not because the character, but simply cause I have too little experience with him so far.., considering that I am aiming to win G2.
But I think Im going Yoshi only at BEAST2, so if you come mindtrick we can figure out your problems together ;D
Lost to Armada, but almost all of the matches were 1stock high % and I managed to take a game of him last weekend (not recorded though). Decent, but no way close to good enough ;F
Recorded some yoshi footage vs Falco and Fox that really shows how **** parrying really is (I need to practice some more on parrying vs fox tho) and other stuffzies like a few easy 0-death combos on spacies etc ;>
You get a new combo. They adapt more to Yoshi. You adapt more to then. Still an overall gain.
Your problem is though, that you rely waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much on gimmicks and stuff that has true counters. Yoshi has a lot of legit **** that doesnt have a hard counter but I never see you use them.
And what are Yoshis "glaring weaknesses"? Cause I dont see em. And before you say anything about matchup experience, Im pretty sure the people I play have WAY more experience on how to counter yoshis underlying weaknesses (mainly because I tell them and because of Svampen).
random shizz:
Just came home from a national tournament, placed 2nd in teams and in singles. I didnt use Yoshi at all since I'm preparing for genesis 2. Not using yoshi is not because the character, but simply cause I have too little experience with him so far.., considering that I am aiming to win G2.
But I think Im going Yoshi only at BEAST2, so if you come mindtrick we can figure out your problems together ;D
Lost to Armada, but almost all of the matches were 1stock high % and I managed to take a game of him last weekend (not recorded though). Decent, but no way close to good enough ;F
Recorded some yoshi footage vs Falco and Fox that really shows how **** parrying really is (I need to practice some more on parrying vs fox tho) and other stuffzies like a few easy 0-death combos on spacies etc ;>