Q&A Ask about Pikachu! Hosted by Axe and N64! feat. dkuo!

[Dynamism?]

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Magical Squirrel ftw

I am having SO MUCH FUN playing Pika these days.

Even in semi-seriouslies and even when my Pika sucks, I can't resist!

The AXE syndrome LOL

Edit: Also, I have trouble against Jiggs with Pika too

 

[DJ Nintendo]

I will mm any Pika vs my crappy Jiggs.

And win.

If you want to disagree, cool. But have some reasons besides "such and such hates fighting against Pika", "you guys suck lol". Jman hates fighting Pika and I'm pretty sure Fox STILL has the advantage in the matchup.

I accept the challenge . I'm not gonna go mad specific about the matchup. It all depends on how the Pikachu plays against the Jiggs. Jman hates fighting Pikachu and other random characters (Samus for example) because he can't combo them like he can to high tiers and he finds them boring to fight against lol.

On average, pikachu players hate fighting other pikachu players. Definately means pika has the advantage against pika.

Not me. I like Pikachu dittos

 

[ChivalRuse]

Oooh. I want to see JiggsChad in action!

 

[tdk_Samurai]

^^^^ i loled


What do puffs usually do against Pika's anyway? I've never played one be4

space bairs to where they never get upsmashed, ****s serious business.

I agree with N64, pika has like a moderate advantage on pika.

man, fox combos pika harder than he combos jiggs

 

[AnDaLe]

any tips on learning pikachu? I haven't learned a new character in ages that took this much time. He's soo diferent from anyone else. >_< Like i don't know if its just me, but i don't get how people combo moves into each other with this character. Any tips, plz?

 

[darkatma]

You guys shoulda seen my set vs. darkatma. it was probably the point in the tourney where I actually felt like I knew what i was doing. Why am I only good at the matchups I feel i should get ***** in >_> and bad at the rest lol.

Get at my pika v. sheiks.

Tourney was pretty ****. I had so many close matches. Like, literally, every set was down to the wire that i played. Except vs. cosmo heh. he owned me.

Good to meet you tdk, was fun teaming. And holy crap good **** chad. but yeah, i grats'd you in person. Pikapiiii

i had never been ***** by a pikachu that badly in my life.

 

[Ocho(*8*)]

I really hate pika vs low to the ground characters in general. Thats why I dislike the pikachu ditto, as well as some other matchup.

Also - Does anyone have advice for pikachu vs kirby? The kirby I play steals thunderjolt and uses it 5 times as well as I do. And Kirby is a short character so that makes it even harder to approach him.

And yeah, I know I should gimp him as much as possible but I feel like I really lose when he is onstage.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

any tips on learning pikachu? I haven't learned a new character in ages that took this much time. He's soo diferent from anyone else. >_< Like i don't know if its just me, but i don't get how people combo moves into each other with this character. Any tips, plz?

I never play pikachu but i'll give you advice, first off when you know nothing it's easiest to learn so you could just jump in and learn a lot by just messing around. things to know.

don't sheild to much
your grab range sucks
your fast enough to keep up with everyone in the game as pikachu
pikachu kindof runs around and does stuff kindof like falcon but different in many ways.
get comfortable with up-B after a while it won't be to hard to sweetspot all the time
if you can up-smash do it
if you use fair it's good as long as they don't CC it if they do they willl f*** you up really bad.
full hop running jolt is really good
I believe pikachu tilts people about SHFFL at him I don't know I don't play as him and i've heard that somewhere.

But if you like pikachu is it all right if I compare pichu/pikachu as in how you play?

pichu
better sheild by far
you are ninja like because you use a lot of mindgames(pichu's up-B has more tricks) and you learn to use your small size to make it really hard to get hit
is a taunt
better grab game is every way you can think of other than b-throw (better range/L-cancel to set up grabs/ longer chain throws/tech chase due to less knockback)
fairly faster like pikachu's bair L-cancel time is like double what pichu's is.
more techical
wall jumping funs

pikachu
better wd/dd(not by much)
better edge gaurd/gimps up-air
more range
fatter good/bad
better recovery
not emo
easier time doing damage
better tech

Other than this stuff they are basically the same and you can't play as both no one can.

But shouldn't you be able to outrange kirby's d-tilt with your d-tilt? also pikachu uses the jolt way better than kirby but it stops you have being able to camp him forever.

 

[AnDaLe]

i don't like pichu.

Yea, pikachu's shield sucks, I always lightshield with him now.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I didn't say you had to play as pichu I was pointing out reasons why to pick who. But it's near impossible to play as both of them for some reason.

but not everyone can be a happy emo playing pichu player.

I have to play as pichu even in 1st grade I mindgamed the mess out of people, like at dodgeball I couldn't throw worth jack and I could only dodge really well so I would get 2 balls roll one over the line and pop people over the head when they when are it.

 

[tdk_Samurai]

anthony, love your new sig

ICG, do you make spelling errors the way you do on purpose as to some more crazy? And I would **** you at dodge ball.

 

[AnDaLe]

lol i just randomly choose it. its pika holgan

btw, samurai is beast in dodgeball. He does flips like a pikachu would in real life.

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

I nomrally walk at the front lines and watch everyone while I walk around like i'm confused, I just bait them and sometimes throw I'm only good at messing with people.

very rarly do I do spelling errors on pursoe

 

[V3ctorMan]

Wooooooooooot Go Axe... everyone watch Nice shot hugo Livestream.... now ^^

Axe won his first doubles match....and him and light beat.............

SS+Tang... WOOOOOOOOOOOT GO AXE... he's' sooooooo gooooooooood.......... Pikachu!!

EDIT: I believe Axe got 3rd place at nice shot Hugo placing behind, Lovage and SS...Make sure you all give him his well deserved props...Crazy a low tier making it that high in tourney... ^^ <3 Axe <3

 

[soju]

Can Pika's D-Throw chain grab on lighter characters?

I know at higher % they can just jump or really low they'll just tech.
So who can Pika chain grab with the D-throw? Or is there no one and if this is true what should I do after the D-throw?(tech chase?)


Oh and good job at the tournament Axe too bad I couldn't stay long enough to watch all your matches.

 

[tdk_Samurai]

d throw can get a tech chase going on some chars, but no chain throw.

pika does have an f throw chain grab on a few chars, peach is the only one I"m sure of, but thats only like till 8 whole percentage or something.

 

[AXE 09]

hey guys. here's some matches if you wanna see them lol

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=270535

EDIT: oh and here's the first match of an MM that i had with Mango's marth. you might not wanna watch it though cuz the quality is really bad =( but here's the first match anyways lol. the rest of the matches are on the same account

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iALHqWziwWQ&feature=channel

 

[tdk_Samurai]

AXE! You only got 3rd place, only beat lucky, hugs, and forward?! You might as well quit this game because your not improving.

















;-) <3

 

[AXE 09]

lol! you're too nice man ^^ but i didn't beat lucky, i never had to fight him. i DID beat hugs and forward though =D

but i got ***** by lovage =( he beat me in the winner's AND loser's bracket

forward keeps telling me that i shouldn't play pikachu and only play falco... and he keeps telling me that in a non-joking kind of way. he says my falco is better than my pika. ehm...... idk. i don't wanna quit pikachu. i'll quit falco before i quit pikachu (although i'd much rather keep playing both characters. i love them both to death)

 

[tdk_Samurai]

I meant as in outplaced really, I didn't know your bracket.

also, play em both, cause if someone has your falco figured out, go pika, and vice verca.


also, I'm watching those vids, does f throw usmash really combo, or what happened?

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

he was to cheap to film the whole match.

hey how about when your near the edge about to b-throw fox why don't you d-throw tech chase or upthrow upair them? because there you can get much more solid damage and I know it must have been bugging you that b-throw isn't working uber amazing.

1st match vs eddy was uber sexy. But when you were getting juggled I feel like I should throw out a few very useful things I do as pichu. 1st off dair only beats really bad spaced moves and kirby's upair so avoid it if you can, don't hope they mess up spaceing really bad.you have many options it's silly no one uses them.

1. jolt them if they are far off and fast fall simple enough
2.up-B you can simplely up-B around them or to an edge and there are many ways to mix up here
3. better for pichu than pikachu (if you ask me) but if you use thunder it makes you fall faster AND creates a wall they won't dare pass, as pichu if fox/falco hit thunder that's a free combo to **** them with.
4.air dodge simplely wait and airdodge to avoid their attack.
5. something I want to try sometime, is to smash side-B before they attack, also if you caome down charging it they get nervous more so for pichu.

I play my brother'smarth/fox and the one thing he really shines at is following his jugglesand covering all of my options in every case he can, I can still get around him like 70% of the time and he tries really hard at that. but yeah all the cases give you the chance to counter attack them and be safe.

I know all of this because as an ice climber main itannoys the S*** out of me to be stuck in the air with their dair/ bad options in the air.

also as pichu I figure out a new way to max out his recovery with up-B if you hold upper right/left you can go that way twice if you are quick, if not you will only get one jump. let me show you the video hang on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q31YNfVKVq0


what the f*** is wrong with me, I swear I saw you get messed up a few times when they were below you like at least 3 times in one match. I don'tknow i'm semi out of it, neverwake up to the song time it will make you hate yourself if you listen to deeply.

 

[AnDaLe]

lol Carzy guy, who do u play as?
That post is ****ing long, who is that directed to?

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

1.pichu.
2.axe.
3.yes i'm single, who's asking?

did I get all the questions right?

but great stuff vs mango, lol pikachu solidly winning vs one of the best marths/players ever.

 

[AnDaLe]

yea axe. those vids helped me a lot vs marth matchup. lol at mango rage quitting

 

[AXE 09]

ICG: wow dude, that vid had some awesome stuff in it. edgecancelled up-b? that's so tight. and i knew that pichu could practically do almost the same angle twice (since he has 32 possible angles from his up-b, as opposed to pikachu only having 16 possible angles). is he able to do the EXACT same angle twice? or was that just very slight different angles so it almost looks like the same angle?

and yeah, i hated it when i got stuck in the air.... and from the options you listed above, i was thinking about doing 2 of them while i was playing:

up-b, trying to dodge him and at the same time, landing slightly above the ground for minimum lag

air dodging downwards or diagonally downwards

but the thing is... well, idk lol. i was just too scared to try them out. i think i probably should've tried it... idk about thunder though. that seems a little too risky as pikachu. the lag is INSANE, and characters like marth and luigi CAN punish (pretty easily) if you use it while you're falling, like in the situation i was in. if you use a running full jumped thunder though, most of the time, they won't be able to punish you for it =)

thanks for all the advice though, ICG.

and you're welcome, Andale =) i can't believe that i actually got $4 from mango lol

and about the Fthrow Usmash....
honestly, idk o.O i mean, i've done fthrow usmash before. quite a few times actually. but if i recall, every time that i've previously done it, it wasn't a "true" combo. they were always able to double jump/attack/whatever after the Fthrow. it's just that i guess they don't expect for me to try to follow it up, so they'll get hit by it anyways.

but in that match against mango, it looked like a true combo, am i right? after i hit that, i was kinda confused. i guess if marth DIs towards you at a specific high percent, it'll actually be a combo. kinda funny that the first time i got this as a real combo, it was on mango lol. mango's too good

 

[V3ctorMan]

Axe is a "horrible player" way way garbage.. <33

 

[soju]

Yo axe know any nifty tricks against mario? =w=
My friend( A Rookie, the mario you played at the tourney) keeps kicking my butt pretty bad
and i want to suprise him with something new XD

 

[AXE 09]

Axe is a "horrible player" way way garbage.. <33

not as horrible as that kid named v3ctordude. his mewtwo is so bad, even my pichu is better <3

Yo axe know any nifty tricks against mario? =w=
My friend( A Rookie, the mario you played at the tourney) keeps kicking my butt pretty bad
and i want to suprise him with something new XD

lol i remember that guy. you and him are so tight, it was awesome meeting you two

sad to say though, against mario specifically.... i don't really have any tricks =( mario's actually a pretty hard counter to pikachu. i don't like that matchup at all, but i was too afraid to play falco on him cuz i thought he was gonna gimp me lol

but against mario, i don't have any cool tricks/combos/stuff against him =(

one thing i like doing though:

when he's off the stage and he's coming back, i like doing a full jump off the stage (not a running full jump) and doing a falling Dair. it'll hit most of the time and you can recover from it. it's the same timing as trying to suicide Dair him with falco, except with pikachu, you don't have to suicide since his recovery is amazing

my advice against mario is to use a lot of Uairs. when i faught against him, i could tell that he had pikachu practice lol. he's pretty good against pika


EDIT:

oh and also, Fsmash worked wonders against him. i noticed that he likes to Fsmash as well, and if you space it right, your Fsmash will outrange his. i got him with that quite a few times, maybe that'll help a bit

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

pichu can only do 16 angles like pikachu, but i've asked myself the same thing is if it was just barely different angles, i've tested many times nope it's the same one twice making his recovery longer.

I totally argee with not thudering to much vs marth/luigi you would have to be pretty high to do it safely. but I would like to try it vs puff that would ****.

But I hate how I find more and more amazing things about pichu and people only think i'm dumbe when it comes to me saying pichu is way better in about everyway, heck it isn't like I haven't tested a S*** lot of stuff with kirby to fully understand both sides, unlike them.

Oh well a thank you/good job every month will help me so much, it's like with chistmas I'm happier hearing merry chistmas than getting things.

Hey if I make it to apex I want to play pichu/pikachu dittos with you then pichu(me) vs pikachu(mostly you) yes I can't play as pikachu to save my life and I bet you can't play as pichu to life chistmas.

 

[soju]

lol alright ill try that =w=
and you bet your monkey's uncle he had pikachu practice, he was playing with the best pikachu player in town( the only pikachu player in town)

 

[AXE 09]

pichu can only do 16 angles like pikachu, but i've asked myself the same thing is if it was just barely different angles, i've tested many times nope it's the same one twice making his recovery longer.

I totally argee with not thudering to much vs marth/luigi you would have to be pretty high to do it safely. but I would like to try it vs puff that would ****.

But I hate how I find more and more amazing things about pichu and people only think i'm dumbe when it comes to me saying pichu is way better in about everyway, heck it isn't like I haven't tested a S*** lot of stuff with kirby to fully understand both sides, unlike them.

Oh well a thank you/good job every month will help me so much, it's like with chistmas I'm happier hearing merry chistmas than getting things.

Hey if I make it to apex I want to play pichu/pikachu dittos with you then pichu(me) vs pikachu(mostly you) yes I can't play as pikachu to save my life and I bet you can't play as pichu to life chistmas.

lol well hard work always deserves to be appreciated
but i'm like... 95% sure that pichu has 32 angles. i'll try to look it up asap

lol alright ill try that =w=
and you bet your monkey's uncle he had pikachu practice, he was playing with the best pikachu player in town( the only pikachu player in town)

lol you're the best pikachu in town. don't tell anyone that you're the only pikachu player in town, nobody has to know that

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

well if there are 32 different angles then there are a total of 1354(off the top of my head math, so don't quote me even if it's most likly right) different paths pichu can choose from when up-B vs the 256 paths(not counting going double) of there being only 16 angles.

there are also only 16 little knots in the controler and pikachu's seems shaper becuase it's quicker/longer just think of what pikachu's would look like if it were even longer, it wouldn't seem like it have 32 angles.

But I hope i'm right because ifi'm wrong I should give up on a lot of pichu techskill because when I did that platform cancel I pressed upper leftthere are only like 4 angles there if it's 32 angles then there would be 8 angles there and it would be near impossible to use right in battles.

also the harder the battle the sweeter the victory if I quit now I would be only an inch away from my goal how I never quit at anything.

 

[AXE 09]

yes, pikachu has 16 different angles for his up-b. he's got...

up, down, left, right
all 4 diagonal directions
all of the 8 directions in between those.

pichu has 8 16 more in between all of those, so he can perform VERY persice precise angles. i couldn't find where it says how many angles pichu can perform but i'll keep looking for varification

 

[V3ctorMan]

it's "precise" you loser not persice.. Axe = Fail

<3 Axe <3

 

[INSANE CARZY GUY]

hmm i'll double check tomorrow. But the math doesn't add up(wanted to say that). i'll test tomorrow, I could be wrong because i'm listening to that one pichu guide right now, which I shouldn't because it didn't teach me any thing.

night


hey vector man(yeah I misspelled your s***) don't bug de-lexics for their spelling

 

[V3ctorMan]

Axe isn't "Dyslexic" He just "Fails" at spelling.. Loser

=p <333 Axe <333

 

[Jumble]

up, down, left, right
all 4 diagonal directions
all of the 8 directions in between those.

pichu has 8 more in between all of those

....
16 angles, and 8 in between ALL of those?

That math is so fail.

XXXDDDD

lol you're the best pikachu in town. don't tell anyone that you're the only pikachu player in town, nobody has to know that

The towns finest


Dynamism posting

 

[soju]

psh considering the only smashers in the area are a mario, ganon, yoshi, and a falco(only top tier user XDD)

and dang pichu and all his directions sorta makes me want to switch mains XDD jk jk

 

[V3ctorMan]

You should Play Mewtwo!! =D He's cooler than Pikachu! Like ALOT COOLER! LOL

 

[soju]

D; but i dont have a master ball nor do i nearly have enough ultra balls to catch him