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Jon?

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@Crystal: Thanks for the advice I'll try that out next time. It just frustrates me when I lose to that kind of playstyle.

@Graceful Assasin: You can get 2 chain grabs if Marth is at 0% I believe. But anything after that, he can easily Up-B out of it. If you friend gets the timing right, a good trick to do is after a down throw, just stand there and wait for him to Up-B. Then you can proceed to a free grab or smash attack.
 

StarChaserNX

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How can I punish Wolf's reflector?

Specifically, sometimes when I play against Wolf, we get in a laser war and my brother (Wolf) wises up and throws up a reflector and sends my lasers back at me. Sometimes I'm quicker and I throw a reflector at him to deflect his blaster, but usualy Wolf's blaster shot goes short and doesn't hit him we as my laser shots always come back at me.

This is especially bad (and boring) when the bridge is out on Hyrule's Elden Bridge stage or other long flat stages like Final Destination.

For that matter, how can I punish his blaster without getting hit myself? Sometimes when Wolf fires that annoying blaster repeatedly, I'll follow up with my laser. Sometimes I am in a position where I won't get hit (I am jumping or falling), but often times I do get hit.
 

V

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What move(s) wears down shields the most?

Which move(s) shield stabs the best?
 

BleachigoZX

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How can I punish Wolf's reflector?

Specifically, sometimes when I play against Wolf, we get in a laser war and my brother (Wolf) wises up and throws up a reflector and sends my lasers back at me. Sometimes I'm quicker and I throw a reflector at him to deflect his blaster, but usualy Wolf's blaster shot goes short and doesn't hit him we as my laser shots always come back at me.

This is especially bad (and boring) when the bridge is out on Hyrule's Elden Bridge stage or other long flat stages like Final Destination.

For that matter, how can I punish his blaster without getting hit myself? Sometimes when Wolf fires that annoying blaster repeatedly, I'll follow up with my laser. Sometimes I am in a position where I won't get hit (I am jumping or falling), but often times I do get hit.
SHL into Reflector, if he holds out the reflector prepare to eat 32-ish%.

Try mixing up SHL with Phantasms to counter being reflected, this works on most stuff.
 

Cross.

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@Graceful Assasin: You can get 2 chain grabs if Marth is at 0% I believe. But anything after that, he can easily Up-B out of it. If you friend gets the timing right, a good trick to do is after a down throw, just stand there and wait for him to Up-B. Then you can proceed to a free grab or smash attack.
yeah I do that alot but on the marth I play all the time but this was a new marth. Thanks for the answer though and sorry for the late *** reply
 

MdrnDayMercutio

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Metaknight's glide attack is an aerial so it doesn't actually have "priority." Any move that's long enough with clash.
Aerial's clash. Glide Attack Clanks.

Clash = Trade hits. You both take damage and Knockback.

Clank = Cancel each other out.

Meta's glide doesn't clank normally, where he is reverted to a nuetral standing postion, but instead it continues and you take nothing. And a fast attack(jab) can punish. Kinda like a Din's Fire.
 

Tommy_G

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New videos of mine:

Two Falco full shield break setups:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMhrS1V8AYg
After you break someones shield, their shield is already at half power. That's why short canceled phantasm into up smash worked in my other video.

Dash attack vs shield grab:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqB6FgsuNuk
Shows how a dash attack can be safe on a shield.

How fast jab cancels should be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7n7yHfEOck
I have a feeling you guys will enjoy this one.

Check them out, maybe they'll bring up new qusestions.
 
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For me, it took me a month, I sucked that bad at it :sad:

Try starting with dashing SHs and hitting the special button twice with timing after that at the top of the SH. Once I did that I learned SHDL like right away.
 

Jon?

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Is Falco anything like he is in Melee? Never really used him used to be a Snake main.
It took me a week or so to get the timing for SHDL. Once you get the hang of it, it'll come naturally.

In my opinion, Falco is nothing like Melee. Gameplay is much different. Falco in Brawl is a bit more campy (who would have guessed?). Lasers is a very important in Falco's Brawl game play where in Melee it wasn't used as much. Pillaring is possible in Brawl but not as effective and combo effective in Melee.
 

Tommy_G

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Its pretty easy to just sh aerial oos to avoid both of those setups isnt it?
Yeah but this is also a full shield. You shouldn't be fighting someone with a full shield ever because of your lasers.

Besides, they only have two opportunities to do it: in between the phantasm and the jab and in between the jab and the dash attack. Also, they might sit in their shield because they don't think they're going to be broken that fast. Dash attack into Up Smash diminishes the shield very quickly.

That's also why I called them setups, not combos.
 

Crystanium

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How do I ask a Qusestion?
I was going to ask what a "qusestion" was. :p It's a typo, but it can be fixed.

So, um, since I'm in here, I may as well ask a question. Who are the big names that still main Falco, aside from SK92? I don't ever hear about Sethlon anymore. It's as if he dropped Falco.
 

pure_awesome

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I was going to ask what a "qusestion" was. :p It's a typo, but it can be fixed.

So, um, since I'm in here, I may as well ask a question. Who are the big names that still main Falco, aside from SK92? I don't ever hear about Sethlon anymore. It's as if he dropped Falco.
Not a typo. You're crazy. You're all crazy. What are you even talking about?

DEHF and Kismet are probably the 2 Falcos doing the best right now.
 
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I was going to ask what a "qusestion" was. :p It's a typo, but it can be fixed.

So, um, since I'm in here, I may as well ask a question. Who are the big names that still main Falco, aside from SK92? I don't ever hear about Sethlon anymore. It's as if he dropped Falco.
Sethlon dropped months ago. Still uses Falco from time to time I heard, but went with shiek or ZSS.

DEHF and SK92 are serioulsy the only big names I know.

Edit: @Pure-So true. This place is very, very dirty.
 
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Fox cannot really DI out, We just have to walk CG him to a decent person then finish it off with something, typically a Gatling Combo as Dair doesn't really work against fox. wow... I haven't heard of the word Gatling Combo in a long time.
 

Jon?

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@fridaylobster: Unlike some characters who can take the 5 full grabs to ~43-45% and then spiked off stage, Fox cannot be spiked after a full chain grab or if he's at the 40-45% range. Falco has to spike him in earlier percentages.

*oh by the way: my version of Brawl pillaring is just linking several Dairs in a row, lol. Sorry if that has a different name.
 

Teran

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I was going to ask what a "qusestion" was. :p It's a typo, but it can be fixed.
No, you are mistaken.
Mini Mic originally thought this and mispelled it "question", but I made a specific arrangement for it to be changed back.

Qusestion Thread = Serious Bread.

Lol it rhymes, win.

Oh and DEHF, SK92 and Kismet are the big Falcos these days.
Sethlon moved on to ZSS.
 

Yumewomiteru

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I've seen a bunch of vids of falcos on jungle japes using phantasm to get from the middle area to the far ledge of the outer platforms. But when I tried it, i couldn't make it work a single time. So does anyone how to properly do this?
 
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YOu don't have to let go, moving the control stick back towards the center of the stage will work too. That is the method I use, whatever works for people.
 

Jon?

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Just curious. Which matchup do you guys dread the most? vs MK or vs Snake?

Personally, I hate the Snake matchup. I want to know what you guys prefer.
 

Tommy_G

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No, you have to post 10 times a day for a month, then maintain at least 5 posts a day or else you're kicked out.
 

J4pu

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I'm going to go ahead and assume that was sarcasm and wait for my broom access to be reinstated.

I don't plan on consistently posting 5+ times a day...

if you are actually that seriously strict about this I think you need to get a life and understand smashboards/smash in general lacks importance compared to the large majority of other things in life. aka pull the stick out of your arrogantly condescending ***.
 

Denzi

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I'm going to go ahead and assume that was sarcasm and wait for my broom access to be reinstated.

I don't plan on consistently posting 5+ times a day...

if you are actually that seriously strict about this I think you need to get a life and understand smashboards/smash in general lacks importance compared to the large majority of other things in life. aka pull the stick out of your arrogantly condescending ***.

:laugh:

I don't do that, and I'm still there. If you want to maintain status, just make sure you post in the fbr every once in a while.

(And it's Ozz who's able to let you in, not Tommy G, so don't worry about that.)
 

Tommy_G

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I'm going to go ahead and assume that was sarcasm and wait for my broom access to be reinstated.

I don't plan on consistently posting 5+ times a day...

if you are actually that seriously strict about this I think you need to get a life and understand smashboards/smash in general lacks importance compared to the large majority of other things in life. aka pull the stick out of your arrogantly condescending ***.
Yeah, it was sarcasm. I'm not even in the Falco BRoom. I'm in the same situation you're in, but I'm not too worried about it. Nothing was ever really talked about when I was in it before.
 

BleachigoZX

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I wish I was in it, I just want to know what's going on in there since not much is told to us over here.


I just noticed in post quantity, I'm 7th. (Loser Status!!)
 

AvoiD

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Mm, is it possible to get a standing CG on Wolf?

Saw it in one of RAIN's videos, thought it was pretty sexy.
 
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