rayman1234
Smash Cadet
what do you do when an MK juggles you with uair?
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Ask a quick question, get a quick answer (The Marth FAQ's)
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Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
DI or endure.
If you have any chance to air dodge then do it.
rayman1234
Smash Cadet
There really isn't any faster way to get out?
-Red-
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What else could there possibly be o.O
Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
Yeah. Seriously.
Its just U-Air six times. He doesn't even let you respond.
He can also follow it up with shuttle loop.
MK is too good.
Approaching a shielding foe, When I set up a brickwall of Fairs, I usually strike the shieild and weave away from the opponent to space another Fair.
Though this is good for spacing and brickwalls, how do I know when it becomes that I am being TO defensive?
What are someways to be aggressive and defensive?
Is constant SHFairs defensive or offensive, or does it depend on your strategies that you apply it towards?
Though this is good for spacing and brickwalls, how do I know when it becomes that I am being TO defensive?
What are someways to be aggressive and defensive?
Is constant SHFairs defensive or offensive, or does it depend on your strategies that you apply it towards?
-Red-
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Yeah honestly my best advise would be to just do whatever you possibly can to not be above MK, or any character for that matter with Marth.
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None of these three are bad for Marth, so theres no real problem in repeating Fairs aslong as you are spacing well.
As for being TO defensive, well it all depends, I think Marth has an amazing defensive game and can win off just that, but when get a hit in with the Fair go ahead and take advantage of it as much as you can. Then when everything is back to normal ( you and your opponent are on even footing again go back to brickwall Fairs)
Constant fair is both offensive and defensive, its offensive as it does damage and can lead to combos. its defensive as it keeps them away from you. ^_^
Also try fairing them a few times, then jump in and fast fall into a grab. Changing your defensive Fair into a offensive grab.
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Well if you are spacing your Fairs well, and they are shielding of three things will happen, 1. There shield will break 2. You will hit them 3. They will be forced to play a defensive game to avoid 1 and 2.
None of these three are bad for Marth, so theres no real problem in repeating Fairs aslong as you are spacing well.
As for being TO defensive, well it all depends, I think Marth has an amazing defensive game and can win off just that, but when get a hit in with the Fair go ahead and take advantage of it as much as you can. Then when everything is back to normal ( you and your opponent are on even footing again go back to brickwall Fairs)
Constant fair is both offensive and defensive, its offensive as it does damage and can lead to combos. its defensive as it keeps them away from you. ^_^
Also try fairing them a few times, then jump in and fast fall into a grab. Changing your defensive Fair into a offensive grab.
Yup, that basically what it is ment to do, but I see it more of an offensive approach since it requires to have your foe to go on the complete defense. Rather then you waiting for a opening, you are forcing you oppenment to make one.
Basically it is a multi purpose execution, either way it is a great move. Good thing that you have to hit the person for the move to stale, or else it would really suck.
-Red-
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Ok I need a 100% yes or no on this, please.
If I grab Mk, pummel him into a grab release, am I garunteed the Fair/Nair/UpB?
Because I was watching Neo's matches vs Plank and he is an AMAZING Marth, i was really impressed but the last match of the set if he grab released to Up/Nair/Fair he would have won. He had the grab and up threw....twice. Is it because he made a mistake or is it not 100%?
If I grab Mk, pummel him into a grab release, am I garunteed the Fair/Nair/UpB?
Because I was watching Neo's matches vs Plank and he is an AMAZING Marth, i was really impressed but the last match of the set if he grab released to Up/Nair/Fair he would have won. He had the grab and up threw....twice. Is it because he made a mistake or is it not 100%?
No, it isn't guaranteed. But If you get really good at it, then it could really make a difference.
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It's guaranteed. NEO just screwed up.
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It's guaranteed. NEO just screwed up.
Whenever I try it they seem to always be too far away...
then you're doing it wrong
If you are very close to marth and he does the down version di in towards him.
If you are at tipper range and he does the down di out.
If he does the up version DI down and the last hit will miss.
Forward... if it's at tip range try out.
If you are at tipper range and he does the down di out.
If he does the up version DI down and the last hit will miss.
Forward... if it's at tip range try out.
Hype
Smash Lord
It's really hard to get out of the standard variation.
ZHMT
Smash Lord
End the dancing blade with the control stick angled down.
Pierce7d
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Eh, also, you should always smash DI away from Marth from hit one. You may be able to escape the last hit entirely, if Marth spaces liberally.
xxHammerxx
Smash Rookie
If Marth does DB as fast as he can though (I mean as fast as humanely possible of course) and all side slashes, no up or down, can you DI out of it? It seems like then you wouldn't be able to, but I'm new so IDK I guess...
Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
No not really.
Now for my Question,
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=wWiQTh63_XU
Marth can do this too with DS. Is it any good?
Sorry i couldn't get a vid of marth doing this. Its in there though.
Stole the link from the DK boards.
Hype
Smash Lord
Yes, marth can do this with DS, I do it at the begining of my combo vid (in sig). I don't think it is as good as Dair unless they are at a kill percent. I don't think it's something to try because you have to put yourself above the character to do it and marth sucks at fighting people below him.
Darxmarth23
Smash Champion
True. I guess that jusd DS out of shield is a better option too.
thank you.
illinialex24
Smash Hero
Hey guys, I was playing as Marth yesterday and I was playing a R.O.B., and for some reason, whenever I would footstool dair them, the dair wouldn't tip and spike them. Yet, when I do it on other characters, it seems to work fine. Is this an issue with ROB or do I just suck with Marth?
It's just something odd with ROB's footstool animation.
Simply delay your dair.
Also, don't steal my lines...
"...or do I just suck with Marth?"
Yeah, no.
illinialex24
Smash Hero
Sorry for stealing your line that I've been saying for a bit longer than you.... And ok, thanks.
∫unk
Smash Master
I heard Viet got 7th at his last tourney.
BarDulL
Town Vampire
So...can someone direct me to a thread that has all of Marth's diminishing attack data?
What were you after exactly?
BarDulL
Town Vampire
TKD+ITA+Mar=
Smash Ace
Just as a follow up, having the counter miss on the second half of Snake's ftilt does not create the stun jacket.
Nightshine
Smash Journeyman
So...what's been going on around the Marth boards? I haven't been on here in a long time lol.
I wont tell anyone :D
Remzi
formerly VaBengal
Hmm.. you got me curious now BarDulL
I continually wonder who this was directed to and why my sarcasm scouter is out of control.
Brinzy
Godfather of the Crimean Mafia
Alright, I'm in a bit of a dilemma... wonder how much you guys would help.
Basically, I'm having Marth trouble. Sadly, my Sheik is pretty terrible. In my opinion, Sheik/Zelda is near neutral with Marth, with him having a slight advantage, which is better than a flat out advantage. Do you guys think it'd be better for me to stick with my best character (Zelda) and bring my Sheik up to that level, or should I just get a completely different CP for Marth?
I guess what I'm asking is... Sheik/Zelda vs. Marth or DDD/Snake/Robot vs. Marth
No, I don't want to use MK, even though he's logically the best answer. Also, I have not learned the latter three at all.
Basically, I'm having Marth trouble. Sadly, my Sheik is pretty terrible. In my opinion, Sheik/Zelda is near neutral with Marth, with him having a slight advantage, which is better than a flat out advantage. Do you guys think it'd be better for me to stick with my best character (Zelda) and bring my Sheik up to that level, or should I just get a completely different CP for Marth?
I guess what I'm asking is... Sheik/Zelda vs. Marth or DDD/Snake/Robot vs. Marth
No, I don't want to use MK, even though he's logically the best answer. Also, I have not learned the latter three at all.
Freezewish
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I suggest that you train your Zelda to the point where you can defeat opposing Marths.
If Zelda is your best character then continue to use her. It would be easier to train up Zelda then to learn a completely new character in my opinion.
Learn the matchup vs marth. Study it and find advantages your character may have over Marth. Play Marths often and figure out the advantages and disadvantages you have vs Marth.
And dont even think about going Metaknight. We have enough of those already. =/