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Ally Is Inhuman. Updated 1/10: New vids vs M2k!!!!! Anther

SuSa

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Ally doesn't play like any other snake. That's why you think he doesn't look impressive. Different doesn't mean bad. In fact in this case, Different means amazing.

Ally has a style that can't truly be copied, that's why he's so unique.
Everything can be copied.

The problem with people copying Ally, is just... no ones that good yet. :laugh:


(I'm trying to work a bit of his style into my style. Several people I've brawled that main/secondary Snake say I play... a bizarre/strange playstyle.

Problem with my playstyle, is it's less efficient then Ally's. Problem with fully copying Ally, is I'm not as skilled as he is, and I like having my own base style, but love to know knew styles in case they are more efficient, or make the matchup easier.

Watching Ally vs DK actually helped me outstandingly in that matchup, more then I thought when I first watched it.

I saw the do's and don't'
 

Shadow_of_Link

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Everything can be copied.

The problem with people copying Ally, is just... no ones that good yet. :laugh:


(I'm trying to work a bit of his style into my style. Several people I've brawled that main/secondary Snake say I play... a bizarre/strange playstyle.

Problem with my playstyle, is it's less efficient then Ally's. Problem with fully copying Ally, is I'm not as skilled as he is, and I like having my own base style, but love to know knew styles in case they are more efficient, or make the matchup easier.
Haha, I'm trying to copy some of Ally's style as well (his grab game mostly, because it's so d*** sexy and actually useful), but finding the right time for grabs is tough. I'm slowly learnin though :laugh:
 

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Ok, before I lock this thread, I need to set a few things straight. Looking back on the posts in this thread, there are a few that I must comment on.

yea honestly his snake didnt do anything impressive...its just another decent snake....nothing more
and wtf at the audience going crazy for nothing? LOL wowzers
Love you Candy, but this post is full of fail.

yuh ally can go dominate canada like a scrub despite whether the other trash guy uses falco or wario you can tell based on movement alone he is no good..he got to the finals prolly with that nair>nado spam mk is yawn...but like anyway ally...has nothing on cort.hell texas' number 1 powerranked snake is a ****ing 12 year old and he will blow your mind if you think ally is good..

look up ultimaterazer...lol...ally and his nade spam

also im not gonna flat out say ally is bad..but if you dont abuse map control with snake...its like not exploiting your greatest strength of sheer overwhelming the matchup

ambient guy mentioned the set ups...those setups shouldnt even come up as a possiblity..

its like if you were fighting a sucky marth who just faired and fsmashed..youd obviously be able to predict and powershield every attack. then people would be like...OH HE CAN POWERSHIELD EVERYTHING (perfect shield whatev) but that isnt the case..its just overcoming the basic trash which these people cant even over come a snake thats months behind..
This may be THE most ********, misinformed, ignorant post I have ever seen in the history of my existence on these boards. Love you Razer, but, and trust me when I say this, Ally is much, much better than Razer. Ally is lightyears ahead of any Snake in the world at this point. He is on par with M2K and Azen, the best of the best. He is creative, inventive, precise, and an absolute genius at this game. If any of you disagree from this point on, you are all idiots, completely wrong, or both.

WOW. I JUST SAW WHAT HE SAID ABOUT STAGE CONTROL. Listen. I will lay this flat out for you. Ally's stage control, is the most impressive display of skill I have ever seen in Brawl. He controls the stage, and you, better than any player out there. Better than M2K, better than Azen, better than everyone. He doesn't spam **** like everyone else. He picks and chooses what he does to put his opponent in a bad situation. Wow. I cannot believe I just read you taking his greatest skill and making it seem like he doesn't know how to use it. Your fail level is over 9000!!

Lol, no joke. Razer is more impressive.
Ally has the basics down and is great at defending. Ultimaterazor has the basics and more down, is great at defending exactly when necessary and pummeling his opponent relentlessly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of-VoTCDcx8&feature=related

???Are you kidding me? Am I the only one with the ability to watch videos and see what's happening in them? C'mon now. It's called having eyes and a brain.

Wow. Just watched that video. He got taken down to 1 stock by a Lucas. Ally 3 stocks good, national level Meta Knights in the Grand Finals of tournaments. Wow. I'm actually shocked.

Yet, Ally beats King Ace here and everyone starts a hell storm and praising him and saying stuff like he can take on the best of the best. Ya know what guys? Let's wait for some better evidence than these vids before we go about proclaiming we found a messiah that is like M2K.
He can take on the best of the best, and he proved it. He went practically even with M2K in MK vs Snake in friendlies. Again, am I the only one that can watch vids and see what's happening? This is different from Melee people. This game is slow. At worst, you can pause the video, think about what's happening, realize what each players options are and then unpause and see what they do, giving you a fair judgement of how good they are.

And, from the first 2-3 pages...

Ally is good. Anyone that says otherwise is just a Snake main that doesn't want to admit that Ally is good or they don't know what they're talking about.
I am god, this statement holds true, that is all.

This is Jesiah, I'm done here.

I take it back. I'm not done. I am actually very upset and ashamed at how...what's the word...To be blunt, stupid a lot of people posted in this thread are. Honestly, I'm not even proud to say I mod the Snake boards right now. Words cannot describe how upset I am. Something's gotta change around here. I think these boards are in for an Emblem Lord style of education.

Time to sleep. Zzz...Zzz...Zzz...
 

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I think some west coast snakes could give him a run for his money. hall on a good day is ridiculously good, he beat dsf (who placed 9th because of it). DSF is the west coast's m2k (they're about equal too, last tournament dsf split with him and was in winners bracket waiting for him). Ally did not beat m2k

now, ally is by far more consistent (didn't drop a set till m2k), but hall on a good day could easily give him a run for his money.

they're a lot different though, ally is extremely good at stage control, and hall is a little more high risk high reward (he also leaves you thinking "how the **** did that c4 get there") It'd be interesting to see ally come out here to see how he matches up against west coast snakes
 

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I think some west coast snakes could give him a run for his money. hall on a good day is ridiculously good, he beat dsf (who placed 9th because of it). DSF is the west coast's m2k (they're about equal too, last tournament dsf split with him and was in winners bracket waiting for him). Ally did not beat m2k

now, ally is by far more consistent (didn't drop a set till m2k), but hall on a good day could easily give him a run for his money.

they're a lot different though, ally is extremely good at stage control, and hall is a little more high risk high reward (he also leaves you thinking "how the **** did that c4 get there") It'd be interesting to see ally come out here to see how he matches up against west coast snakes
I'm not bashing Hall and in fact I think he's really really good (friggin wrecked me a couple months ago lol) but I personally think Ally would wreck his camping but yea maybe Hall cud give him a good match, who knows (not that we'll ever get to see that anyway).
 

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I think some west coast snakes could give him a run for his money. hall on a good day is ridiculously good, he beat dsf (who placed 9th because of it). DSF is the west coast's m2k (they're about equal too, last tournament dsf split with him and was in winners bracket waiting for him). Ally did not beat m2k

now, ally is by far more consistent (didn't drop a set till m2k), but hall on a good day could easily give him a run for his money.

they're a lot different though, ally is extremely good at stage control, and hall is a little more high risk high reward (he also leaves you thinking "how the **** did that c4 get there") It'd be interesting to see ally come out here to see how he matches up against west coast snakes
In friendlies Ally and M2K went 3-3. M2K even said Ally played badly in the brackets, though M2K said he also played exceptionally well.

There are good snakes on the west coast...but NONE of them except DSF could come to the east coast and place like Ally, and not even DSF could3 stock all the people Ally did.
 

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that's an exaggeration. I think I played average (average for me trying my hardest in tourney) which is still really good and I wanted to see it, while ally played slightly below average imo probably because he was nervous. In friendlies we went 3-3 all last stock. I think his best and worst vary a good amount. I don't see many people in the world beating him if he's playing what I would consider "good" for him, and most of his vids (wifi doesn't count I don't even watch those) aren't the "good" I saw / am talking about.
 

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that's an exaggeration. I think I played average (average for me trying my hardest in tourney) which is still really good and I wanted to see it, while ally played slightly below average imo probably because he was nervous. In friendlies we went 3-3 all last stock.
Oh my bad. But makes sense.

Just out of curiosity, are the matches even because he doesn't get gimped, or he's just solid in his setups and the like?

It seems like in a lot of the other matches Ally got into positions to get gimped quite a bit (sometimes he did get gimped...).
 

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me and ally both agreed that if Snake doesn't get gimped Snake has the advantage while if MK gets at least 1 gimp then MK has the advantage. He's just really smart, but needs to fight good people more often. (Not canadians and wifi... no offense canadians lol). He's really smart with grenades. There is no 1 thing he's just really good overall. Lots of mindgame/tricks, although there are times when I think he should use reliable bread and butter stuff more.

i didn't gimp him in our tourney matches and I think I only gimped him like... once? twice at most in all our friendlies I think only once that I remember. For some reason in our tourney matches he was dying from my shuttle loops at 120% like twice I think he missed the DI or something although he was in a really bad position there anyway.

Also, I wasn't doing any spamming of tornados or anything. I don't like playing that way (especially when I keep getting blown up / up tilted out of it half the time I do it).

Although if Ally keeps air dodging into the ground I'm going to start just tornadoing to punish air dodge landing lag. I guess I'll have to see how he starts playing next time I fight him. I hope I play the same or better than I was at Cat 4, although I'll be satisfied if it's the same. That seemed good enough to beat anyone legitly, based off the fact that I think I wasn't playing cheap/lame but still won every singles game vs everyone that whole tourney.
 

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Does anyone know if Ally does doubles with Snake? I havent been able to find any vids...
 

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@ all the ppl bashing ally: you really cant see how effective / amazing his style is until you play it first hand. It's annoying, but thats how it is. Videos of pros playing brawl look pretty similar to average players too D=

Btw, i beat ally in a ranked snake ditto over wifi in april. Therefore, I am the best snake in teh world =P.
 

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lol megavitamins

1.It was wifi, you shouldn't brag over wifi matches
2.Its only one set. You cant prove yourself better than someone by only one set against them if they are close, which I'm sure they were
3.Winning in a DITTOS MATCH does not make you the better character. Some dittos are retarted because they come down to using the characters longest range move trying to shut out its shorter ones, or whoever plays more defensively. Snake dittos are stupid because all he has on ground against another snake is tilts, and is just dumb period.
 

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lol @ 5:26 in the 1st Ally vs. Anther vid. I swear I didnt know Pika could glide toss o.0

Ally is 2 good, he makes Captain Falcon look like number 35 instead of 36 on the tier list xD, 223% w/ C. Falcon, thats ( dare I say ) inhuman -_- . Both Ally and Anther are 2gud ._.
 

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lol megavitamins

1.It was wifi, you shouldn't brag over wifi matches
2.Its only one set. You cant prove yourself better than someone by only one set against them if they are close, which I'm sure they were
3.Winning in a DITTOS MATCH does not make you the better character. Some dittos are retarted because they come down to using the characters longest range move trying to shut out its shorter ones, or whoever plays more defensively. Snake dittos are stupid because all he has on ground against another snake is tilts, and is just dumb period.
He was clearly joking.
 

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lol megavitamins

1.It was wifi, you shouldn't brag over wifi matches
2.Its only one set. You cant prove yourself better than someone by only one set against them if they are close, which I'm sure they were
3.Winning in a DITTOS MATCH does not make you the better character. Some dittos are retarted because they come down to using the characters longest range move trying to shut out its shorter ones, or whoever plays more defensively. Snake dittos are stupid because all he has on ground against another snake is tilts, and is just dumb period.
God dam it.

ITS A FRIGGIN JOKE, HOLY CRAP. Chill ur balls.
 

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i just realized a few days ago someone said dsf is equal to me >_> no offense to him but.... no he's not. Right now in terms of best snakes (at least the well known ones) my opinion is 1) ally 2) afro 3) dsf

i think ally's inconsistent because his best and worst vary by a lot
 

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He also doesnt have nearly the amount of Top level play experience. I'd say his best practice is his brother. and when he comes to big Niagara tournaments, and wifi of course.
 

sMexy-Blu

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He also doesnt have nearly the amount of Top level play experience. I'd say his best practice is his brother. and when he comes to big Niagara tournaments, and wifi of course.
Ahh-lee & Holy = Terrorists
 

Black_Heretic

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Lol, no joke. Razer is more impressive.
Ally has the basics down and is great at defending. Ultimaterazor has the basics and more down, is great at defending exactly when necessary and pummeling his opponent relentlessly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of-VoTCDcx8&feature=related
Wow. Just watched that video. He got taken down to 1 stock by a Lucas. Ally 3 stocks good, national level Meta Knights in the Grand Finals of tournaments. Wow. I'm actually shocked.


that was ultimate razor, not ally
no sh*t sherlock
 

En.Ee.Oh

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lol megavitamins

1.It was wifi, you shouldn't brag over wifi matches
2.Its only one set. You cant prove yourself better than someone by only one set against them if they are close, which I'm sure they were
3.Winning in a DITTOS MATCH does not make you the better character. Some dittos are retarted because they come down to using the characters longest range move trying to shut out its shorter ones, or whoever plays more defensively. Snake dittos are stupid because all he has on ground against another snake is tilts, and is just dumb period.
lol.. groupie
 

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I'm pretty sure that video of Razer is online, old, and it's really really really bad LOL. I can't believe someone posted that :/.

He's improved durastically over the past few weeks and has been dominating tournaments down here. His last tournament he 3-0'ed melee1's IC's in the grand finals lol.

Watch the videos in the thread I made Jesiah. They are much better. Especially the 3rd match of the first set :p.
 

UltimateRazer

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Lol. Wtf. First off that video was from wifi. Wifi is the worst excuse of gaming which is why I havn't played it in a really long time. Second its old.

Lastly, ITS WIFI. Rofl.
 
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