Zelda Matchup Thread // OUTDATED

[GwJ]

But slower.

 

[MrEh]

But slower.

Equally annoying (and awesome) taunts though.

 

[Villi]

Even his up tilt is a taunt. Wah. Wah. Wah. Like a big old baby...

WARIO: "Rahh! Breast feed me!"

ZELDA: "Get away! Hoouh!"

 

[Takumaru]

Equally annoying (and awesome) taunts though.

This is false, Wario's taunts > Sonic's taunts.

 

[MorphedChaos]

Between getting gold or a woman, Wario would prefer getting gold. Prime example, end of Wario Land, Shake it, Wario could've had the queen of the Shake World as a bride, but went for the bottomless coinsack .

 

[Villi]

Wtf, wouldn't he get both for marrying the queen? Maybe he just wasn't feelin the shake queen.

 

[MorphedChaos]

He would, but he didn't care at all for the girl , and she looked like Rosalina

 

[Villi]

Maybe he's gay. He does have a whole extra wardrobe of biker gear. I almost mained him just so I could accessorize.

 

[MorphedChaos]

Nah, he was in a gay situation before, and he knocked the guy's block off , I think he had a visectimy or something.

 

[Villi]

XD

Spoiler

xDxDxDxD

 

[MrEh]

Between getting gold or a woman, Wario would prefer getting gold. Prime example, end of Wario Land, Shake it, Wario could've had the queen of the Shake World as a bride, but went for the bottomless coinsack .

Truly an inspiration for us all.

 

[Takumaru]

He could buy all the women he wanted with a bottomless coin-sack. It doesn't even have to be a legitimate relationship. She could be a gold digger and she'd stick around as long as wario has that sack.

 

[MorphedChaos]

He could buy all the women he wanted with a bottomless coin-sack. It doesn't even have to be a legitimate relationship. She could be a gold digger and she'd stick around as long as wario has that sack.

Well, Wario doesn't have it, Captain Maple Syrup does, she steals it from Wario at the end of the game. >.>

 

[Takumaru]

I never played the game so I made an uninformed comment.
>_>
<_<
so wario is stupid then.

 

[MrEh]

and she looked like Rosalina

I'd hit that.


Wario is a pretty greedy motherf*cker though. I remember Wario Land 2. Haha, he had an entire castle filled with money.

 

[Villi]

Nah, I bet it's just that **** Maple Syrup is a *****.

 

[MorphedChaos]

Yep, She was even the one who gave Wario the shake world, told him that inside it was a bottomless coinsack, so guess how Wario tried to "Get the coinsack inside"? He gets out a sledgehammer and almost breaks it with that!

Also, Supposedly Wario likes Moana from the Warioware games, I know for a fact she likes him, calls Wario "The most awesome person ever!" and Wario likes her Pizza

 

[Brawl4Lyfe]

who cares who is better, i just want to have fun

 

[Kataefi]

=? I am so confuuused?
Bottomless coinsacks? mona pizza? I havn't played any wario games >.>

 

[MorphedChaos]

These quotes were done by some Wario fanatic on the Wario forums, he only ever posted 3 times though, and his impression of Wario is DEAD ON.

Awright, awright! I'll give you some tips on how to REALLY win a tournament!

1. Intimidation. Get up in your opponent's face! People feel uncomfortable when yer too close to 'em, so make sure yer nose-to-nose! Make sure yer big 'n beefy like me or else it won't be as effective!

2. Brag. Make sure yer opponent knows yer gonna win! Inisist on it and yer opponents'll believe it too! But ya gotta keep it fresh! Come up with brilliant lines such as "Amma Wario! AMMA GONNA WEEN!!" Volume is important too! Belt it out at the top of your lungs!

3. Taunt. Insult, insult, INSULT!! Get it through yer head already, moron! When ya first see 'em, make fun of their looks! If they're takin' a while to choose their character yell "HURRY UP!!" When they screw up in a match, rub it in their face! Most importantly, nail 'em with a good one while you K.O. 'em! It's double whammy! Many an opponent has cringed after I yelled "HAVE A R-R-ROTTEN DAY!!" as they fly off the screen! Remember, an opponent with low self-esteem will be easily crushed, so lower their's about ten times before the match begins! WA HA HA HA HA!!

4. Gross 'em out. It's hard ta fight when yer tryin' not to puke, right? If you have any bodily functions to release, save 'em for opportune times in the fight! Yer opponent's tryin' to recover? BURP IN HIS FACE!! Got ya in a grab-release? LIFT UP YER LEG AND FART AT 'IM!! Feel free to keep that nose clean, but as good as that gold on yer finger looks, don't munch it! Rub it on your opponent!

5. Unplug their controller when they're not lookin'. This one work's WONDERS! Just don't get caught, 'else you'll be disqualified!

6. Always use Wario. If ya don't use me, ya lose! Plain and simple! Dedede? Don't make me laugh! I use hammers twice as big to pick my teeth! Meta-knight? That wimp needs to hide behind a sword AND a mask! Gimme a break, he'd go down if I blew on him!

And there you have it! Some tips of the trade! Implement these into other real-life situations and you'll be almost as successful as ME!! WA HA HA HA HA!!

WRONG!!
1. You mean you've never read any of my manuals!? YOU CALL YERSELF A FAN!?
2. Yes, I do! I even say it in WarioWare Inc.: Mega Party Game$ for the Gamecube!
2. DUMB!? Who's dumb, loser!? Me, the guy who can fly a plane, make video games, design and construct motocross stadiums single-handedly and create dimensional teleporters within seconds or you, the guy who makes accusations he has no proof of on an internet forum, idiot!?

In short, HAVE A R-R-ROTTEN DAY, MORON!! AND BUY MY GAMES!!

I could never find his 3rd post.

So with that, you can see how smart and how greedy and how rude Wario is

Wario's games are beat-em up, or sidescroller platformer, they are short but fun.

Moana is from the Wario Ware games.

The bottomless Coinsack, is from Wario land: Shake it! for the Wii.

The Warioware games are very very short microgames.

The other Wario games are often about money, money, and more money, along with gold, diamonds, and treasure.

 

[Brawl4Lyfe]

but we're in a zelda forum.

 

[MorphedChaos]

Uhm, its called talking about the backstory of Wario , make sure everyone reads my post on page 116, its at the bottom T.T. Its kinda funny too.

 

[Brawl4Lyfe]

that was a funny post im sorry im just new here I don't know too much about the boards yet

 

[Kataefi]

How did you get banned so quickly???

EDIT:: I saw the posts .... but still, that doesn't warrant a banning at all, not when some of the posts directed towards you were actually wrong against you (unless there was sarcasm in that thread I wasn't detecting '_' )

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

If we're going to have Sonic as a 50-50 matchup, there is no way in hell that Wario is our advantage. Wario is like Sonic pumped up with HGH.

I find sonic harder than wario HOWEVER my ONLY real experience against sonic is against shugo who I play against often. And, from what I hear, he's one of the best.

he's ridiculously fast all around. He baits super well and follows up far better than wario does. His moves don't kill as early and he's easier to kill, but he's harder to hit, he wracks up damage quicker and he connects more easily.

Honestly, though, after our last few matches, I've come to think zelda has the advantage. All it took was discovering how amazing zelda's Dtilt was. Normally he'd pull out a spindash and trick me into mistiming an Fsmash and then punish my cooldown. Now all I do is start Dtilting repeatedly. His spindash won't go through it and it KILLS sonic's approach options.

And, even after these considerations, I don't find wario any harder to fight than sonic.

 

[Kataefi]

Should I go back to putting sonic as 55:45 because of this? Because I played Chis on the sonic boards and I seriously struggled with the baits but managed to keep level. I also struggled to time dtilts.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

Should I go back to putting sonic as 55:45 because of this? Because I played Chis on the sonic boards and I seriously struggled with the baits but managed to keep level. I also struggled to time dtilts.

online ti ing dtilt was hard, but when I play shugo face to face getting a dtilt out in time is normally pretty easy.

 

[Kataefi]

Thats good to know ^^ I play no sonics AT ALL offline =( which is probably why I have a harder time with him.

Should I perhaps update the chart to a slight advantage for Zelda? Also, I'll ask if I can borrow the matchup chart from the fox boards because it seems like the general consensus is that it's more clear.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

Thats good to know ^^ I play no sonics AT ALL offline =( which is probably why I have a harder time with him.

Should I perhaps update the chart to a slight advantage for Zelda? Also, I'll ask if I can borrow the matchup chart from the fox boards because it seems like the general consensus is that it's more clear.

he's still **** good and he reads me better than I read him. Sonic is tough, but zelda just has more going for her... if but slightly

I'd wait until we officially do the matchup before we decide though

 

[Kataefi]

yeah cool! I get ahead of myself too easily. I was reading over the sonic/zelda matchup over at their boards and they seem to think it's even.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

yeah cool! I get ahead of myself too easily. I was reading over the sonic/zelda matchup over at their boards and they seem to think it's even.

I thought even before I discovered Dtilt. not like it's game breaking, but it's worthy of a change from 50:50 - 45:55

 

[Kataefi]

I'll stay out of that matchup when we discuss as I don't have any input at all except online =( but also is there a chance you could critique my zelda at the video place and give me some handy tips to improve? I'm finding marths and snake's absolute *****es and I can't approach at all, and when they approach me it's just as hard =(

EDIT:: but i've started to understand bowser a lot more now

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

okay I talked to pyrogamer, the wario I most often play against, today and asked him his opinion of the matchup. He more or less agreed that it was pretty even but that he had a hard time with zelda so he'd probably give her a slight advanatge. 55:45 he said. I'll agree with that. it'll show up the same as 50:50 on most matchup boards so, whatever. 60:40 was probably too much for me to say but I honestly DO think wario has a bit more trouble against us than we do him.

then again, pyro is only a good wario, he's not one of the greats.... then again. I'm a good zelda, not one of the greats.

 

[Takumaru]

We should do someone people are more likely to have experience against like bowser, or samus, or... not sonic. It's 100:0 because I hate him.

 

[Sonic The Hedgedawg]

We should do someone people are more likely to have experience against like bowser, or samus, or... not sonic. It's 100:0 because I hate him.

I still want our next one to be luigi since he's the last matchup to discuss that I find hard. we'll do sonic later

 

[NinjaLink]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzHrJBFgmUY if anyone needed help against marth

 

[Kataefi]

Yes I took a lot of tips from that! But he still seems a bit overwhelming. It's his dancing blade and fair I have most problems with =(

 

[Brinzy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gzHrJBFgmUY if anyone needed help against marth

YES!

This is the type of thing I was looking for. A few weeks ago, I went to the Marth board for tips on this fight. Pierce went out of his way to give me specific tips for facing Marth, and now that I've seen you put some of those to use (as well as a few other things), I see a better way to face Marth. I really, really appreciate you for posting this video.

 

[NinjaLink]

ur welcome no prob.

 

[-Mars-]

I find sonic harder than wario HOWEVER my ONLY real experience against sonic is against shugo who I play against often. And, from what I hear, he's one of the best.

he's ridiculously fast all around. He baits super well and follows up far better than wario does. His moves don't kill as early and he's easier to kill, but he's harder to hit, he wracks up damage quicker and he connects more easily.

Honestly, though, after our last few matches, I've come to think zelda has the advantage. All it took was discovering how amazing zelda's Dtilt was. Normally he'd pull out a spindash and trick me into mistiming an Fsmash and then punish my cooldown. Now all I do is start Dtilting repeatedly. His spindash won't go through it and it KILLS sonic's approach options.

And, even after these considerations, I don't find wario any harder to fight than sonic.

I really think you underestimate Wario and his capabilities. Wario can literally just dance around in the air, i'm sure you know this but i'm pointing it out because he can be played nearly as fast as Sonic with his aerial movement speed.

Wario baits Zelda far easier than Sonic can. With his aerial acceleration and DI, he can fair your shield and retreat without you being able to use usmash OoS. Wario's aerial game is extremely difficult for Zelda to deal with. Wario also racks up damage easier than Sonic and it doesn't matter much anyways since his KO options are vastly superior to Sonics. I also don't see how you could believe that Sonic connects more easily. Sonics approach game is limited to ASC and dash shields since his aerial approaches are lack luster. Wario has safe approach options against Zelda, everytime Sonic approaches he is taking risks.

Not to mention that Wario kills Zelda about 70% before Sonic can.