With My Smash Support, No Retreat - Dr. Eggman Thread

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

I'm actually doubtful that Eggman will be one of our last two, though I don't think his chances are too bad. I see him as the next Ridley/K Rool, though. Popular villain, at least he's starting to gain popularity and hopefully we can keep the momentum up! Hopefully, he'll be a big enough request by the next game that they add him, and I'd imagine they'd want to continue the trend of adding series' villains as well.

Yeah, that's a safe bet. Plus with the recent staff shake-up at SoA and SoJ, it should be theoretically easier to negotiate for Sonic stuff in Smash, in the long run.

 

[KirbyWorshipper2465]

Not too related to the thread, but, uh...

Naka should probably disassociate himself from Oshima for a bit.

 

[Deleted member]

Classic Mode: I Am the Eggman
1.
2.
Ally: Metal
3.
Ally: Metal
4. ,
Ally: Metal
5.
Ally: Metal , Metal
6.
Ally: Metal
Bonus Stage
Final: Galleom
Ally: Metal

References:
1-6: Referencing how Eggman often use the Animal Buddies as a source for the Badniks.
Final: An obvious reference to Metal Sonic with an ally Sonic equipped with the Metal Box.

 

[Mushroomguy12]

Happy Egg Day!

 

[Dukefire]

Alt classic mode title: Glory to the Eggman Empire

 

[shinhed-echi]

Classic Mode: I Am the Eggman
1.
2.
Ally: Metal
3.
Ally: Metal
4. ,
Ally: Metal
5.
Ally: Metal , Metal
6.
Ally: Metal
Bonus Stage
Final: Galleom

References:
1-6: Referencing how Eggman often use the Animal Buddies as a source for the Badniks.
Final: No references to anything other than Dr. Eggman's relation with robots.

I love this. I really do.

Alternate final battle idea.
VS Master and Crazy hand.
Ally [Metal] Sonic.

 

[Maupiszon]

You know, I've been thinking about lately how we all know that the talk about, who's deserving and who's not in Smash can be pretty exhausting for everybody and it's pretty reasonable that not every popular or iconic character will join in (the most popular examples I can think of is another popular 90s mascot like Crash or an FPS icon like Doomguy or Master Chief).
But after Sephiroth's inclusion... our good doctor really feels like the only character that is missing from the roster.

 

[StrangeKitten]

You know, I've been thinking about lately how we all know that the talk about, who's deserving and who's not in Smash can be pretty exhausting for everybody and it's pretty reasonable that not every popular or iconic character will join in (the most popular examples I can think of is another popular 90s mascot like Crash or an FPS icon like Doomguy or Master Chief).
But after Sephiroth's inclusion... our good doctor really feels like the only character that is missing from the roster.

I'd argue Dixie Kong, Bandana Waddle Dee, Tails, and Shadow feel missing as well.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

You know, I've been thinking about lately how we all know that the talk about, who's deserving and who's not in Smash can be pretty exhausting for everybody and it's pretty reasonable that not every popular or iconic character will join in (the most popular examples I can think of is another popular 90s mascot like Crash or an FPS icon like Doomguy or Master Chief).
But after Sephiroth's inclusion... our good doctor really feels like the only character that is missing from the roster.

I'd argue Dixie Kong, Bandana Waddle Dee, Tails, and Shadow feel missing as well.

Chun-Li, M. Bison, Knuckles, Toad, Pig Ganon and Waluigi as well.

 

[Doc Monocle]

Is there any way of implementing Doctor Eggman's most strongly associated vehicles (other than and together with the eggmobile) in one moveset without the moveset seeming contrived? I know the consensus is generally that he should predominantly use the eggmobile, but I cannot stop thinking about how much is 'missing' (e.g. Egg Hawk) by using it exclusively.

 

[Ben Holt]

Classic Mode: I Am the Eggman
1.
2.
Ally: Metal
3.
Ally: Metal
4. ,
Ally: Metal
5.
Ally: Metal , Metal
6.
Ally: Metal
Bonus Stage
Final: Galleom

References:
1-6: Referencing how Eggman often use the Animal Buddies as a source for the Badniks.
Final: No references to anything other than Dr. Eggman's relation with robots.

Honestly, I'd change the final battle to Eggman and Metal Sonic (heh) against Sonic with Sudden Final Smash.
Bowser's final battle was Metal Mario, so it doesn't HAVE to be a boss fight.

 

[Maupiszon]

I'd argue Dixie Kong, Bandana Waddle Dee, Tails, and Shadow feel missing as well.

I get what do you mean, but I was mostly talking about how Eggman is the only super iconic villain that still isn't in the roster so he feels "more" missing than the others.
Although yeah Bandana Waddle Dee, Dixie Kong and probably Impa as Zelda rep do feel like they're overdue especially that Dixie and Impa could be easly made as an Echo Fighters.

 

[Janx_uwu]

Is there any way of implementing Doctor Eggman's most strongly associated vehicles (other than and together with the eggmobile) in one moveset without the moveset seeming contrived? I know the consensus is generally that he should predominantly use the eggmobile, but I cannot stop thinking about how much is 'missing' (e.g. Egg Hawk) by using it exclusively.

That is fair, however I feel there are workarounds to using his mechs in the Eggmobile. One of those mechs (like the Egg Dragoon or aforementioned Egg Hawk) would attach itself onto Eggman's vehicle for a singular attack, and then detach itself and disappear. Same goes for smaller stuff like the drill car from Sonic 2.
Might look weird, but I still think this is the best way to implement Eggman.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

You know, I've been thinking about lately how we all know that the talk about, who's deserving and who's not in Smash can be pretty exhausting for everybody and it's pretty reasonable that not every popular or iconic character will join in (the most popular examples I can think of is another popular 90s mascot like Crash or an FPS icon like Doomguy or Master Chief).
But after Sephiroth's inclusion... our good doctor really feels like the only character that is missing from the roster.

Him, Phoenix Wright, and Crash Bandicoot honestly.

 

[RetrogamerMax]

I get what do you mean, but I was mostly talking about how Eggman is the only super iconic villain that still isn't in the roster so he feels "more" missing than the others.
Although yeah Bandana Waddle Dee, Dixie Kong and probably Impa as Zelda rep do feel like they're overdue especially that Dixie and Impa could be easly made as an Echo Fighters.

While M. Bison isn't as iconic as Eggman, I do believe he's right behind in terms of which iconic villain should come next. A lot of people sleep on Bison probably because Chun-Li still isn't in yet.

 

[MasterWarlord]

Is there any way of implementing Doctor Eggman's most strongly associated vehicles (other than and together with the eggmobile) in one moveset without the moveset seeming contrived? I know the consensus is generally that he should predominantly use the eggmobile, but I cannot stop thinking about how much is 'missing' (e.g. Egg Hawk) by using it exclusively.

Bowser sure has a lot more to his character as a villain than breathing fire and being a heavy turtle.

If he exclusively took from the classic Sonic games for his moveset, which he probably would, he would still have 10x more than most characters.

 

[Doc Monocle]

Bowser sure has a lot more to his character as a villain than breathing fire and being a heavy turtle.

If he exclusively took from the classic Sonic games for his moveset, which he probably would, he would still have 10x more than most characters.

I know that could be argued for some characters, but while a moveset is not crystallized to something in reality; while it is still cradled in the imagination, I like to get the utmost representation of canon and character out of what can be envisioned for potential newcomers, even if those hopes seem unrealistic or unfairly specific.

 

[ninjahmos]

I support Dr. Eggman for Smash! He'd need his own stage with music associated with Robotnik himself! And his robots. Both originals and new remixes. I think some nice picks would be the Sonic 2 Boss Theme, Death Egg Robot (Sonic 2), Boss Theme (Sonic CD JP/EU), Stardust Speedway Bad Future (JP/EU), Final Fever (Sonic CD), Major Boss Theme (Sonic 3 & Knuckles), Big Arms (Sonic 3 & Knuckles), Dr. Eggman Theme (Sonic Adventure 1), Egg Carrier (Sonic Adventure 1), Sky Deck (Sonic Adventure 1) Mechanical Resonance (Sonic Adventure 1), E.G.G.M.A.N. (Sonic Adventure 2), Ruby Delusions, Havoc Prognosis, Hi-Spec Robo Go, Ruby Illusions, Egg Reverie, and many others. What do you guys think?

 

[Perkilator]

SEGA is confirmed for E3 this year.

 

[Janx_uwu]

SEGA is confirmed for E3 this year.

Awesome! I think Eggman would've had a decent chance regardless since he'd most likely be revealed during the Direct, but still, this makes me excited that we'll possibly get some concrete Sonic news!

 

[LiveStudioAudience]

Sega at an E3 happening in the same month of Sonic's 30th anniversary does have me optimistic, even if Eggman doesn't get in Smash.

 

[Perkilator]

Update: List was housed on official E3 website, but appears to be based on what was planned for 2020 https://t.co/d6ugXrfTxr pic.twitter.com/oV8APxTsyB

— Nintendo Everything (@NinEverything) April 25, 2021

Turns out we overhyped a little

 

[Perkilator]

Hope you’re getting hungry cause we’ve got more chefs in the kitchen for this year’s #E32021! Our newest additions: SQUARE ENIX, SEGA, BANDAI NAMCO, XSEED Games/Marvelous USA, Gearbox Entertainment, Freedom Games, Devious Eye Entertainment, Turtle Beach, Verizon & Binge dot com! pic.twitter.com/DeIB6zFjTX

— E3 (@E3) May 6, 2021

NOW SEGA's confirmed for E3 2021.

Btw, I made a Spirit Board for Eggman.

 

[SharkLord]

Eggman's day is up on the Character Exploration Thread. Come down here and discuss!

Character Exploration Thread - Day 79: Axel Stone (Streets of Rage)

Welcome to the Character Exploration Thread! Here, we cycle through a variety of topics - Mainly the fighters - That don't get enough attention. Rather than tirelessly reiterating the same old debates of likelihood on a loop, this thread is for chill vibe time where we discuss who the characters...

smashboards.com

 

[Perkilator]

Happy Anniversary @SumoDigitalLtd !! pic.twitter.com/4FkKKwCV70

— KEITHSTACK.COM (@keithjohnstack) May 21, 2021

Whatever you say, Eggman.

 

[GolisoPower]

I can't fully express my gratitude for the @sonic_hedgehog crew and community.🙏

I hope to honor your support and passion as I'm officially back voicing #SonicTheHedgehog in games.

Can't wait for ya to see what we have planned!

THANK YOU...from the bottom of my blue heart.💙 pic.twitter.com/KOLi2MJnUi

— Roger Craig Smith (@RogerCraigSmith) May 26, 2021

We did it bois.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

It's not certain but it'll be worth keeping an eye on everyone's favorite mad scientist as next month is Sonic's 30th anniversary.

 

[Perkilator]

TKOWL made a concept for a Chemical Plant Zone stage. And Eggman's in the picture!

Chemical Plant Zone stage concept. As the Mega Mack rises and lowers at the bottom of the stage, the panels at the left periodically flip into the background and the block at the right moves slowly in a square path. pic.twitter.com/knnFgVrZcV

— Ryan's Art Account (@TKOWL_Art) June 2, 2021

 

[Perkilator]

Call me crazy, but recently I've been linking the Deadly Six (and Eggman) to the Seven Deadly Sins in Lost World.

• Zavok = pride / ego
• Zazz = wrath
• Zomom = gluttony
• Master Zik = sloth
• Zeena = lust
• Zor = envy (kinda?)
• Eggman = greed

It makes me only wish Lost World didn't have such God-awful writing.

 

[ancara22]

Well, by the end of next tuesday tops, we'll know once and for all if the good doc will finally be showing up or not. Always been a fan of the character, and would enjoy seeing what Sakurai would do to make him unique/stand out in a playable form.

 

[Perkilator]

【スピリッツイベント】
6/25(金)から3日間、「時代を駆け抜けろ！ ソニックシリーズ30周年」を開催！ 期間中、スピリッツボードにソニックシリーズのスピリッツがたくさん出現。バトルに勝利すると、いつもより多めにゴールドを入手できます。#スマブラSP pic.twitter.com/WtGd3VstH0

— 大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ【スマブラ公式】 (@SmashBrosJP) June 23, 2021

Sonic 30th Spirit Event

Interetingly, Eggman isn't on this thumbnail. But then again, a lot of Sonic characters aren't.

 

[Gengar84]

TKOWL made a concept for a Chemical Plant Zone stage. And Eggman's in the picture!

Chemical Plant Zone stage concept. As the Mega Mack rises and lowers at the bottom of the stage, the panels at the left periodically flip into the background and the block at the right moves slowly in a square path. pic.twitter.com/knnFgVrZcV

— Ryan's Art Account (@TKOWL_Art) June 2, 2021

I made a Chemical Plant Zone stage in Stage Builder that managed to get to the number one slot twice. Someone made a video showing my stage off:

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music that you love, upload original content and share it all with friends, family and the world on YouTube.

m.youtube.com

Here’s the code if anyone is interested in trying it themselves: GPVX9RTO

 

[DrifloonEmpire]

Call me crazy, but recently I've been linking the Deadly Six (and Eggman) to the Seven Deadly Sins in Lost World.

• Zavok = pride / ego
• Zazz = wrath
• Zomom = gluttony
• Master Zik = sloth
• Zeena = lust
• Zor = envy (kinda?)
• Eggman = greed

It makes me only wish Lost World didn't have such God-awful writing.

If Eggman gets in, the Deadly Six could be some easy spirits for his board, as it'd no doubt focus on Sonic Villains.

 

[Janx_uwu]

Happy birthday-not just to Sonic, but our favorite evil scientist as well!
Speaking of him, the first teaser for Sonic Villains just dropped! It's a fan film project I've been following for a while, can't wait until it comes out!

 

[Perkilator]

I still wanna believe the Sonic series could fit into the second chance theory, and Eggman could help if he was chosen.

 

[pupNapoleon]

He is my most wanted Sega character- easily would have taken over Joker.

 

[Janx_uwu]

So for Sonic's thirtieth anniversary Spirit Board, the ones chosen seem...odd, I guess? Don't get me wrong, they're all great additions...but some notable exclusions. Where's Tails, Shadow, and Knuckles-core sereis characters that are top tier in terms of importance and popularity? Most glaring omission though, was EGGMAN. Like, it's his anniversary too guys!
Very sus, Nintendo. Very sus indeed.

 

[Wario Wario Wario]

So for Sonic's thirtieth anniversary Spirit Board, the ones chosen seem...odd, I guess? Don't get me wrong, they're all great additions...but some notable exclusions. Where's Tails, Shadow, and Knuckles-core sereis characters that are top tier in terms of importance and popularity? Most glaring omission though, was EGGMAN. Like, it's his anniversary too guys!
Very sus, Nintendo. Very sus indeed.

Insane what-if that has absolutely no weight to it but would be cool if it happened - what if Tails, Knuckles, Eggman and Shadow are released as a 4 for the price of 1, rounding out the roster at 85?

 

[7NATOR]

So for Sonic's thirtieth anniversary Spirit Board, the ones chosen seem...odd, I guess? Don't get me wrong, they're all great additions...but some notable exclusions. Where's Tails, Shadow, and Knuckles-core sereis characters that are top tier in terms of importance and popularity? Most glaring omission though, was EGGMAN. Like, it's his anniversary too guys!
Very sus, Nintendo. Very sus indeed.

Actually as much as I would love for the absence of their spirits to be hinting towards something, there are good reasons why All 4 of them are missing

-Tails is mainly a summonable spirit, or a WOL exclusive spirit, since the only way to fight him on Spirit board is to obtain him once, These aren't featured in Spirit events

-Eggman is a WOL Exclusive spirit, which have never made appearances in Spirit events

-Shadow is a Spirit board only Spirit. while these have made appearances in events (as Wario-Man, who's Spirit board exclusive, headlined an event) they tend to not make frequent appearances. Lyn for example missed the Fire Emblem Spirit events and she's Spirit board only

-Knuckles doesn't have a Spirit battle

 

[Janx_uwu]

Actually as much as I would love for the absence of their spirits to be hinting towards something, there are good reasons why All 4 of them are missing

-Tails is mainly a summonable spirit, or a WOL exclusive spirit, since the only way to fight him on Spirit board is to obtain him once, These aren't featured in Spirit events

-Eggman is a WOL Exclusive spirit, which have never made appearances in Spirit events

-Shadow is a Spirit board only Spirit. while these have made appearances in events (as Wario-Man, who's Spirit board exclusive, headlined an event) they tend to not make frequent appearances. Lyn for example missed the Fire Emblem Spirit events and she's Spirit board only

-Knuckles doesn't have a Spirit battle

You are probably correct on those.
I still can’t help but find the four omissions baffling, but I guess that’s just kinda how it happened.