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With My Smash Support, No Retreat - Dr. Eggman Thread

KirbyWorshipper2465

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I'm actually doubtful that Eggman will be one of our last two, though I don't think his chances are too bad. I see him as the next Ridley/K Rool, though. Popular villain, at least he's starting to gain popularity and hopefully we can keep the momentum up! Hopefully, he'll be a big enough request by the next game that they add him, and I'd imagine they'd want to continue the trend of adding series' villains as well.
Yeah, that's a safe bet. Plus with the recent staff shake-up at SoA and SoJ, it should be theoretically easier to negotiate for Sonic stuff in Smash, in the long run.
 

MarcSio277

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Classic Mode: I Am the Eggman
1. :ultsquirtle:
2. :ultduckhunt:
Ally: Metal :ultsquirtle:
3. :ultisabelle:
Ally: Metal :ultduckhunt:
4. :ultdk:, :ultdiddy:
Ally: Metal :ultisabelle:
5. :ultfalco:
Ally: Metal :ultdk:, Metal :ultdiddy:
6. :ultsonic:
Ally: Metal :ultfalco:
Bonus Stage
Final: Galleom
Ally: Metal :ultsonic:

References:
1-6: Referencing how Eggman often use the Animal Buddies as a source for the Badniks.
Final: Obviously referencing Metal Sonic with an ally Sonic equipped with the Metal Box.
 
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shinhed-echi

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Classic Mode: I Am the Eggman
1. :ultsquirtle:
2. :ultduckhunt:
Ally: Metal :ultsquirtle:
3. :ultisabelle:
Ally: Metal :ultduckhunt:
4. :ultdk:, :ultdiddy:
Ally: Metal :ultisabelle:
5. :ultfalco:
Ally: Metal :ultdk:, Metal :ultdiddy:
6. :ultsonic:
Ally: Metal :ultfalco:
Bonus Stage
Final: Galleom

References:
1-6: Referencing how Eggman often use the Animal Buddies as a source for the Badniks.
Final: No references to anything other than Dr. Eggman's relation with robots.
I love this. I really do.

Alternate final battle idea.
VS Master and Crazy hand.
Ally [Metal] Sonic.
 

Maupiszon

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You know, I've been thinking about lately how we all know that the talk about, who's deserving and who's not in Smash can be pretty exhausting for everybody and it's pretty reasonable that not every popular or iconic character will join in (the most popular examples I can think of is another popular 90s mascot like Crash or an FPS icon like Doomguy or Master Chief).
But after Sephiroth's inclusion... our good doctor really feels like the only character that is missing from the roster.
 
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StrangeKitten

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You know, I've been thinking about lately how we all know that the talk about, who's deserving and who's not in Smash can be pretty exhausting for everybody and it's pretty reasonable that not every popular or iconic character will join in (the most popular examples I can think of is another popular 90s mascot like Crash or an FPS icon like Doomguy or Master Chief).
But after Sephiroth's inclusion... our good doctor really feels like the only character that is missing from the roster.
I'd argue Dixie Kong, Bandana Waddle Dee, Tails, and Shadow feel missing as well.
 

RetrogamerMax

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You know, I've been thinking about lately how we all know that the talk about, who's deserving and who's not in Smash can be pretty exhausting for everybody and it's pretty reasonable that not every popular or iconic character will join in (the most popular examples I can think of is another popular 90s mascot like Crash or an FPS icon like Doomguy or Master Chief).
But after Sephiroth's inclusion... our good doctor really feels like the only character that is missing from the roster.
I'd argue Dixie Kong, Bandana Waddle Dee, Tails, and Shadow feel missing as well.
Chun-Li, M. Bison, Knuckles, Toad, Pig Ganon and Waluigi as well.
 

Doc Monocle

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Is there any way of implementing Doctor Eggman's most strongly associated vehicles (other than and together with the eggmobile) in one moveset without the moveset seeming contrived? I know the consensus is generally that he should predominantly use the eggmobile, but I cannot stop thinking about how much is 'missing' (e.g. Egg Hawk) by using it exclusively.
 

Ben Holt

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Classic Mode: I Am the Eggman
1. :ultsquirtle:
2. :ultduckhunt:
Ally: Metal :ultsquirtle:
3. :ultisabelle:
Ally: Metal :ultduckhunt:
4. :ultdk:, :ultdiddy:
Ally: Metal :ultisabelle:
5. :ultfalco:
Ally: Metal :ultdk:, Metal :ultdiddy:
6. :ultsonic:
Ally: Metal :ultfalco:
Bonus Stage
Final: Galleom

References:
1-6: Referencing how Eggman often use the Animal Buddies as a source for the Badniks.
Final: No references to anything other than Dr. Eggman's relation with robots.
Honestly, I'd change the final battle to Eggman and Metal Sonic (heh) against Sonic with Sudden Final Smash.
Bowser's final battle was Metal Mario, so it doesn't HAVE to be a boss fight.
 

Maupiszon

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I'd argue Dixie Kong, Bandana Waddle Dee, Tails, and Shadow feel missing as well.
I get what do you mean, but I was mostly talking about how Eggman is the only super iconic villain that still isn't in the roster so he feels "more" missing than the others.
Although yeah Bandana Waddle Dee, Dixie Kong and probably Impa as Zelda rep do feel like they're overdue especially that Dixie and Impa could be easly made as an Echo Fighters.
 

Janx_uwu

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Is there any way of implementing Doctor Eggman's most strongly associated vehicles (other than and together with the eggmobile) in one moveset without the moveset seeming contrived? I know the consensus is generally that he should predominantly use the eggmobile, but I cannot stop thinking about how much is 'missing' (e.g. Egg Hawk) by using it exclusively.
That is fair, however I feel there are workarounds to using his mechs in the Eggmobile. One of those mechs (like the Egg Dragoon or aforementioned Egg Hawk) would attach itself onto Eggman's vehicle for a singular attack, and then detach itself and disappear. Same goes for smaller stuff like the drill car from Sonic 2.
Might look weird, but I still think this is the best way to implement Eggman.
 

Jovahexeon Joranvexeon

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You know, I've been thinking about lately how we all know that the talk about, who's deserving and who's not in Smash can be pretty exhausting for everybody and it's pretty reasonable that not every popular or iconic character will join in (the most popular examples I can think of is another popular 90s mascot like Crash or an FPS icon like Doomguy or Master Chief).
But after Sephiroth's inclusion... our good doctor really feels like the only character that is missing from the roster.
Him, Phoenix Wright, and Crash Bandicoot honestly.
 

RetrogamerMax

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I get what do you mean, but I was mostly talking about how Eggman is the only super iconic villain that still isn't in the roster so he feels "more" missing than the others.
Although yeah Bandana Waddle Dee, Dixie Kong and probably Impa as Zelda rep do feel like they're overdue especially that Dixie and Impa could be easly made as an Echo Fighters.
While M. Bison isn't as iconic as Eggman, I do believe he's right behind in terms of which iconic villain should come next. A lot of people sleep on Bison probably because Chun-Li still isn't in yet.
 

MasterWarlord

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Is there any way of implementing Doctor Eggman's most strongly associated vehicles (other than and together with the eggmobile) in one moveset without the moveset seeming contrived? I know the consensus is generally that he should predominantly use the eggmobile, but I cannot stop thinking about how much is 'missing' (e.g. Egg Hawk) by using it exclusively.
Bowser sure has a lot more to his character as a villain than breathing fire and being a heavy turtle.

If he exclusively took from the classic Sonic games for his moveset, which he probably would, he would still have 10x more than most characters.
 
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Doc Monocle

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Bowser sure has a lot more to his character as a villain than breathing fire and being a heavy turtle.

If he exclusively took from the classic Sonic games for his moveset, which he probably would, he would still have 10x more than most characters.
I know that could be argued for some characters, but while a moveset is not crystallized to something in reality; while it is still cradled in the imagination, I like to get the utmost representation of canon and character out of what can be envisioned for potential newcomers, even if those hopes seem unrealistic or unfairly specific.
 

ninjahmos

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I support Dr. Eggman for Smash! He'd need his own stage with music associated with Robotnik himself! And his robots. Both originals and new remixes. I think some nice picks would be the Sonic 2 Boss Theme, Death Egg Robot (Sonic 2), Boss Theme (Sonic CD JP/EU), Stardust Speedway Bad Future (JP/EU), Final Fever (Sonic CD), Major Boss Theme (Sonic 3 & Knuckles), Big Arms (Sonic 3 & Knuckles), Dr. Eggman Theme (Sonic Adventure 1), Egg Carrier (Sonic Adventure 1), Sky Deck (Sonic Adventure 1) Mechanical Resonance (Sonic Adventure 1), E.G.G.M.A.N. (Sonic Adventure 2), Ruby Delusions, Havoc Prognosis, Hi-Spec Robo Go, Ruby Illusions, Egg Reverie, and many others. What do you guys think?
 

Perkilator

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NOW SEGA's confirmed for E3 2021.

Btw, I made a Spirit Board for Eggman.
 

SharkLord

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Eggman's day is up on the Character Exploration Thread. Come down here and discuss!
 

GolisoPower

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We did it bois.
 

Perkilator

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TKOWL made a concept for a Chemical Plant Zone stage. And Eggman's in the picture!
 

Perkilator

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Call me crazy, but recently I've been linking the Deadly Six (and Eggman) to the Seven Deadly Sins in Lost World.
  • Zavok = pride / ego
  • Zazz = wrath
  • Zomom = gluttony
  • Master Zik = sloth
  • Zeena = lust
  • Zor = envy (kinda?)
  • Eggman = greed
It makes me only wish Lost World didn't have such God-awful writing.
 

ancara22

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Well, by the end of next tuesday tops, we'll know once and for all if the good doc will finally be showing up or not. Always been a fan of the character, and would enjoy seeing what Sakurai would do to make him unique/stand out in a playable form.
 
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