What SBR Members Think of Metaknight (DL UP!)

[Cinos_Gohegdeh]

so what u guys are saying is that u cant defeat a meta-knight...
*sigh* its no problem to me if the meta-user is good. u say they have no weak points but its not true. hes open when he falls from the sky. big opportunity to give a smash attack. as for the mach tornado. its easy to get hit with but how open he is when he's done makes him an easy target.

maybe im falling on deaf ears because u dont know meta knight as i do. he used to be my main so i know him and his moves way to well to fail against him.

 

[da K.I.D.]

you play sucky MKs if they are falling from the sky in freefall as opposed to gliding,

also how od you punish nado if the last hit pops you away too far to do anything.

you just need to play better ppl

@ mr E. you are correct sir.

@TV, yea, he kinda is...

 

[M15t3R E]

=o

so what u guys are saying is that u cant defeat a meta-knight...
*sigh* its no problem to me if the meta-user is good. u say they have no weak points but its not true. hes open when he falls from the sky. big opportunity to give a smash attack. as for the mach tornado. its easy to get hit with but how open he is when he's done makes him an easy target.

maybe im falling on deaf ears because u dont know meta knight as i do. he used to be my main so i know him and his moves way to well to fail against him.

Any MK user who happens to have a brain comes down with a glide attack or dair. No openings to attack them.
For the mach tornado, good chance you'll get hit by it because it activates so quickly. If you shield it, the MK will move to your right or left and end it before you can counter-attack, easily d-smashing you if you dash up to him in hopes of exploting the minor landing lag.
Sorry, MK is still broken.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

so what u guys are saying is that u cant defeat a meta-knight...
*sigh* its no problem to me if the meta-user is good. u say they have no weak points but its not true. hes open when he falls from the sky. big opportunity to give a smash attack. as for the mach tornado. its easy to get hit with but how open he is when he's done makes him an easy target.

maybe im falling on deaf ears because u dont know meta knight as i do. he used to be my main so i know him and his moves way to well to fail against him.

First off:

Open when he falls from the sky? I mean, if your opponent lets go of the controller as Meta's descending from the sky sure. Then it's safe. But I doubt anybody is going to just leave their controller laying on the ground, so you have one of several different ways Meta can make himself very safe:

N-air, f-air, d-air, Mach Tornado, and Shuttle Loop/ground-canceled glide attack. See how easy that is?

Mach Tornado is punishable? Sure, if the MK player is a complete dunce and doesn't know how to place it. There's very little wind-down lag if the MK player keeps it close to the ground. As a result, it leaves very minimal risk.

Now, I'm all against the Meta banning like you are. But if you want to present a solid case, know what you're talking about beforehand.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Cinos_Gohegdeh]

hmm. what u say is true but can u defeat a meta user? i know i can. included they use these tactics of urs. give me a good meta-user and ill show u.

 

[M15t3R E]

hmm. what u say is true but can u defeat a meta user? i know i can. included they use these tactics of urs. give me a good meta-user and ill show u.

Okay, get back to us when you defeat M2K or Dojo.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

hmm. what u say is true but can u defeat a meta user? i know i can. included they use these tactics of urs. give me a good meta-user and ill show u.

M2K, Azen, DSF, Plank, Forte, Rx-, GMoney, Lee...

Think you got what it takes, bud? I'd love to see you take these guys on.

Edit: Oh, and Dojo. *HIGH FIVES MISTER E.*

Smooth Criminal

 

[XienZo]

M2K, dojo
10 char

Edit: I got beaten to it so bad...

 

[Cinos_Gohegdeh]

*sigh* fine. lets see if going though all this is worth it.

 

[XienZo]

Oh, I'm pretty sure a lot of them don't accept online, so you're gonna have to do some traveling.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Oh, I'm pretty sure a lot of them don't accept online, so you're gonna have to do some traveling.

QFT.

Any more questions, Cinos?

Smooth Criminal

 

[Cinos_Gohegdeh]

*sigh* so how am i gonna vs these "so called" best meta-users? is there any1 else thats as good?

 

[XienZo]

I guess there might be a good but not uber MK or 2 that'll accept online, I mean, I bet a good 25% of smashers are MK now.
Just head over to the battle search thread thingie.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

*sigh* so how am i gonna vs these "so called" best meta-users?

Protip:

Get your driver's license and/or turn eighteen. Oh, and having a job might help.

Smooth Criminal

 

[brinboy789]

M2K, Azen, DSF, Plank, Forte, Rx-, GMoney, Lee...

Think you got what it takes, bud? I'd love to see you take these guys on.

Edit: Oh, and Dojo. *HIGH FIVES MISTER E.*

Smooth Criminal

azen uses everybody. DSF is mainly snake, and who is Rx- and Gmoney? never heard of them.

 

[Smooth Criminal]

azen uses everybody. DSF is mainly snake, and who is Rx- and Gmoney? never heard of them.

I know Azen uses everybody; we also know, however, that he is also a competent Metaknight player. I've seen a couple of matches with DSF as MK and he's done pretty well. Rx- and Gmoney are Florida-based Smashers who both use MK and are not half-bad.

*shrugs.*

Smooth Criminal

 

[Black_Heretic]

azen uses everybody. DSF is mainly snake, and who is Rx- and Gmoney? never heard of them.

DSF mains MK now

he CPs Snake against certain characters but mostly MK from what I heard

Spoiler

so sad

 

[brinboy789]

I know Azen uses everybody; we also know, however, that he is also a competent Metaknight player. I've seen a couple of matches with DSF as MK and he's done pretty well. Rx- and Gmoney are Florida-based Smashers who both use MK and are not half-bad.

*shrugs.*

Smooth Criminal

well azen is also pretty competent with entire top tier. *shrug*. DSF is snake main, MK on side.

 

[noodles]

good ****/good luck overswarm

 

[_Phloat_]

well azen is also pretty competent with entire top tier.

...

Exactly?

 

[brinboy789]

...

Exactly?

im saying that azen doesnt count as a MK player, cause he uses pretty much everybody

 

[XienZo]

im saying that azen doesnt count as a MK player, cause he uses pretty much everybody

The point was that if you beat his MK, you can add it to your resume.

 

[Black_Heretic]

well azen is also pretty competent with entire top tier. *shrug*. DSF is snake main, MK on side.

You mean MK main, Snake on the side

Go look at his Axis videos, they're all him using MK

 

[Terios the Hedgehog]

Cinos. If you go *sigh* one more time I'll brain ya.

 

[Jim Morrison]

*sigh* heil...

 

[Youko]

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[MBlaze]

I thought Azen was a Lucario user.....

 

[Camalange]

Hey Youku, by any chance do you know when the podcast will be released for download?
*hopes it wasn't asked before because I'm too lazy to read the other 12 pages of this thread*

 

[brinboy789]

You mean MK main, Snake on the side

Go look at his Axis videos, they're all him using MK

no, hes a snake main. im pretty sure of that. he seconds MK. if he uses MM in axis, does it mean that he mains him? DSF is a snake player, MK secondary

 

[Youko]

Hey Youku, by any chance do you know when the podcast will be released for download?
*hopes it wasn't asked before because I'm too lazy to read the other 12 pages of this thread*

Ideally within the next couple days after we record it. So you'll definitely be able to hear it in case you can't make it tonight.

 

[Camalange]

Ideally within the next couple days after we record it. So you'll definitely be able to hear it in case you can't make it tonight.

Awesome, thanks Youko. I'll probably just miss the beginning, but I don't wanna only hear half, so I'll just wait 'till the podcast.

 

[Azen Zagenite]

=^_^=

I wish my MK was as good as those MK mains. Several of my chars are better than my MK like Lucario/Marth/Peach/etc. Maybe I don't spam tornado enough, I dunno, my playstyle just works better with other chars.

 

[Black_Heretic]

no, hes a snake main. im pretty sure of that. he seconds MK. if he uses MM in axis, does it mean that he mains him? DSF is a snake player, MK secondary

-_- you're wrong, he picked up MK after playing with M2K and copying his style. He's been going all MK or a while now, if you don't know, don't try to correct me

also, lol MM

 

[brinboy789]

-_- you're wrong, he picked up MK after playing with M2K and copying his style. He's been going all MK or a while now, if you don't know, don't try to correct me

also, lol MM

yea hes USING MK, but its not his main. his main is snake. ask him if you like.

 

[Arturito_Burrito]

Ideally within the next couple days after we record it. So you'll definitely be able to hear it in case you can't make it tonight.

O its tonight? lol I thought it was at 8 AM. well thats kool I haven't missed it.

 

[Black_Heretic]

yea hes USING MK, but its not his main. his main is snake. ask him if you like.

whatever, its not important, I don't care, don't respond. If he uses him the most in tourney, thats his main. He counterpicks snake when he's unsure of his MK.

end of argument, no need to spam this thread on an irrelevant topic

 

[SamuraiPanda]

Guys, remember to tune in! Its 1 hour away for the live stream if you want to hear it as its going!

 

[Turbo Ether]

I'm gonna end up missing House to listen to this

 

[MBlaze]

Does this work on Wiinternet?

 

[frdagaa]

I'm gonna end up missing House to listen to this

Ahhh, so it's worth it then.