Wario Q&A Thread

[Shadow 111]

Stop being terrible, then Shadow!

I don't have too much trouble vs MKs either. It's one of my favorite matchups, as gay as it may be that he can upair a million times.

how do you approach him? he just f tilts/dtilts/up bs everytime i try to approach >_<

 

[Timbers]

It's all personal preference. Wario doesn't really need to uptilt, so you can keep it on if you'd like. It personally messed me up a lot and I end up wasting jumps, but that's also b/c I'm so accustomed to Tap Jump OFF.

Utilts are really easy to do with tap on lol.

It's all personal preference. Tap on allows you to use cstick aerials oos much more effectively, and you have more control over your aerials during double jumps and such. I don't really know what tap off has but I guess it works for you.

people put tap jump off if they were bad at melee

slikvik is that cool guy that chilled in the back of the school bus smoking grits and hella pimpin the high school ladies.

Or they want to use Wario's Up Air without the worry of random jumping. If you play a different control that's not GameCube then you might have to turn it off like the Classic Controller.

c-stick upair is cool too.

 

[slikvik]

slikvik is that cool guy that chilled in the back of the school bus smoking grits and hella pimpin the high school ladies.

I would sig that but the PhantomX quote is too epic

 

[Lovely]

c-stick upair is cool too.

Some how, that sometimes jump if you do too many moves at once. :/

 

[PhantomX]

I lose jumps all the time with tap on as well, it's why I play with it off.

 

[RATED]

hi, I 2nd wario , my mains are ddd and snake ,I use wario for some stages like Rainbowcruise or Norfair

I have 2 questions:

1. what's the best momentu cancelling move for wario?

2. How Wario do against Olimar?

 

[slikvik]

hi, I 2nd wario , my mains are ddd and snake ,I use wario for some stages like Rainbowcruise or Norfair

I have 2 questions:

1. what's the best momentu cancelling move for wario?

2. How Wario do against Olimar?

1. dair...also if you're being sent a far distance by an attack that you know you probably cannot survive with normal DI/momentum cancelling, airdodge and then use your bike asap. bike has momentum slowing properties

2. wario does fine, just keep up the pressure offensively while not getting grabbed

 

[RATED]

1. dair...also if you're being sent a far distance by an attack that you know you probably cannot survive with normal DI/momentum cancelling, airdodge and then use your bike asap. bike has momentum slowing properties

2. wario does fine, just keep up the pressure offensively while not getting grabbed

thanks a lot.

 

[chimpact]

K, I used to be good with grabs, but now with the bite, people are going more aerial. I can get a lot more bites when they are aerial, but i can never grab them, even when i know they're open. Wario is just too slow on the ground. Are there any easy grab set ups? Like Jab -> grab, FH Dair -> Grab, fair to grab and stuff like that. Or any mindgames to get them to grab you? Like make them hit your shield to be in range, but i unno if that would work. Just askin. i want my wario betta.

 

[Christopher Rodriguez]

I usually just shield grab in place of fsmash out of shield sometimes, dair to grab is definitely there too. Sometimes you can chomp to grab but I'm pretty sure it isn't a true combo on any character. I'm not sure, you should grab when you can for the free pummel refresh and extra damage, just throwing it out there as a mixup.

 

[DMK.]

Is it worth maining Wario in a tournament where the most threatening players play Snake, Falco, Marth and Ness? It seems to me that Wario has an disadvantage against all but the last one. Or should I just suck it up, get *****, and try to improve for next time?

 

[DMG]

Wario beats all of those characters but Marth IMO. However, you have to play pretty gay sometimes to get the win.

If Wario isn't your natural main, go ahead and use another character for tournaments. It's hard, this late into the metagame, to pick him up and try to do well with him. However if you have practiced with him for awhile, you can try to stick with him and try to improve, but it won't be easy.

 

[Brinzy]

Q: Why does Zelda not like Wario?





A: Because he breaks her wind! lololol


But ok, enough nonsensical crap. Just wondering - how does Wario deal with lingering hitboxes, like the kind from Zelda's Usmash and Lucario's stuff? Is he perfectly fine just moving through them or does he prefer to back off and punish?

 

[DMG]

He can do both, depends on where he is positioned/how far along the move is.

 

[YagamiDark]

Always FF Nair?
I've gotten into a habit of doing it

 

[stnapknah]

ff nair to combo/follow up
don't fastfall it when you are retreating OOS or something, so the 2nd hitbox gets anyone who tries to chase you

 

[FattyFatFatso]

FF nair is almost lagless so its useful. Sometimes it's nice to change it up though. I still haven't gotten it down so when I approach Nair the lingering hitbox stays out so long that people drop their shield and get hit by it anyway. If you keep fast falling higher level players will begin to pick up on your patterns. Just mix it up.

 

[Wobbles]

I've been finding that sometimes when I get grab-released I don't go into the air. Is there a way to make this happen consistently?

Also, does anybody have tips for fighting Diddy/D3 on FD? That seems to be my biggest counter-matchup so far.

 

[slikvik]

I've been finding that sometimes when I get grab-released I don't go into the air. Is there a way to make this happen consistently?

Also, does anybody have tips for fighting Diddy/D3 on FD? That seems to be my biggest counter-matchup so far.

lol you play brawl now?

It can only happen if the opponent chooses to pummel you and you break out during the pummel

I'm not good at explaining match-ups in detail so I'll let someone else handle that

 

[Popertop]

diddy is easy you just need to learn banana game.
just find a good Diddy player and play with them over and over until you learn.

D3 I can't help you with.

 

[PhantomX]

Also it will happen if you don't mash up/jump etc when a character without grab release grabs you (those that don't dangle you in the air).

Diddy on FD isn't too bad if you work on your banana game and are patient and DI correctly (you'll live forever). D3 on FD is gay, just pick another character, it's not worth the trouble.

 

[Popertop]

Yeah I do okay with Marth vs D3 on FD.

I'll probably start going diddy or MK

 

[FattyFatFatso]

If you want Diddy practice, find Gnes and play him. His Diddy made me cry. But I did beat it on FD once. Jump over bananas and if you grab one, throw it behind you. Better than throwing it off stage and letting him pull out another one in my opinion.

 

[VodkaHaze]

Does Wario own his own amusement park?

Is the best way to approach an opponent to jumpt towards them, or is their a better way, or should you mix it up?

Is it true that Wario installed all of the speed cameras in Swindon and then, feeling guilty, reprogrammed them so now they take your photo when you go through Swindon know named the most fun town in the UK?

What would you say are Wario's five best moves?

If Wario's bike can go at 217mph, and it gets less than 5 miles to the gallon, If he travels at the maximum speed in 47 minutes, where did he start?

 

[FattyFatFatso]

Hahaha more questions. What inputs do you guys do to break out of grabs quickly? I have spoken to KOSMOS who breaks out ungodly fast but he wont tell me. My friend Shade who breaks out just as quickly says he spins both control stick and c-stick counter-clockwise right before he gets grabbed. Any other personal breaks?

 

[DMG]

I spin control stick, Tap Cstick different directions (you have to tap it one direction at a time and reset it to neutral, you cannot circle around with it fast like on the control stick), Mash all L/R/Z, and depending on how bad I want to get out, I will sometimes use other fingers to hit A and B.

Kosmos probably does the same thing as me, same for other people who get out fast. I think the biggest difference is when you start. For example, usually when I get out super fast, I KNOW before I get grabbed, that I have been grabbed, and start mashing/moving RIGHT then. A lot of other people I know get grabbed, realize they have been grabbed, and then start after a bit of delay. For the people that break out faster, they usually are mashing right when they get grabbed/even beforehand.

 

[Popertop]

yeah, the fastest way to get out is to predict when you get grabbed and mash out early so you have a headstart

 

[PhantomX]

The problem is that we can't exactly risk this as Wario b/c then we might jump break

 

[slikvik]

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/epic-of-woodbridge

If anyones bored, livestream in MD/VA. I'll prob be doing a good amount of commentary

 

[saviorslegacy]

lol.. you poor Wario's don't get a break.....
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=237526

I doubt you can beat that one.....

 

[PhantomX]

We can't beat those Infinites, but they rely on pummels, which give us a chance to escape, and you also have to hope your grab doesn't happen under a platform, or on a stage that moves or transforms.

Pretty much everyone that has a grab release on us has one of these... and they're pretty old.

P.S. 3rd best character even with all this ******ry against us is a pretty big break... but that's just my opinion of course.

 

[SuSa]

Can Ganon grab release > take a step > grab > grab release to the edge, then dair you guys? If so, are you able to DI to survive?

I saw it in a Japanese video showing Ganon being broken with items, and I couldn't help but believe it's not possible.... or if it is, my small amount of testing couldn't get it to work.

So I'll ask you guys to see if you know. Not sure why you'd' tell me, besides out of the kindness of helping me beat Anti's Wario -_-

 

[PhantomX]

You can do it... but I'm pretty sure once you do it once the Wario player will have no qualms CGing you from 0 - 90, lol. It's a pretty small window, though.

 

[SuSa]

Oh yah... dthrow CG.... -_- forgot about Wario's dthrow.... they seem to...rarely...use...it...and if you are playing to win you should be 0-90'ing me anyways.

 

[PhantomX]

It's not exactly hard to beat Ganon without it... but if they're gonna be ***s... lol.

 

[Red Arremer]

Wait, Ganondorf can damage Wario?

 

[OmniOstrich]

What are wario's bad matchups? Based on a quick glance at the stickied threads his only bad matches are DDD, Marth, and Luigi, but it seems like there are probably more.

EDIT: I'm specifically skeptical about G&W and ZSS being neutral, and not 4:6

 

[PhantomX]

Learn what you're doing and they're even. Hell, I still firmly believe we have advantage over ZSS, but Snakeee is cool, so I conceded with even

Also, Luigi is even if not our advantage. There's D3 as our hardest. Then Marth and MK are probably slight advantage for them... maybe Sheik (though I don't believe this either).

 

[Metatitan]

The jigglypuff boards are currently discussing you guys. We look forward to hearing from our better counterparts (since wario is a better jigglypuff essentially).

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=7619557#post7619557

 

[Popertop]

Ganondorf loses to our neutral B hahaha