Wario Q&A Thread

[PhantomX]

It works exactly like a grab, if you want to try to gimp someone with bad recovery by biting you probably want to try it around 30% or less, in case they don't mash in an attempt to drag you down with them.

 

[stnapknah]

Also, you'll want to be mashing as fast as you can when trying to wariocide, so you can get them out quickly. Therefore, whenever i am mashing, i always hold side and just mash b so that i can pull out my bike as soon as wario spits them out. That way you wont do an aerial or use a different b move.

 

[PhantomX]

Your mashing B doesn't affect how soon they get out of bite, as each nibble is considered a pummel.

 

[omegablackmage]

if anything, they would get out later right? since they have more damage to break out of.

 

[PhantomX]

That actually makes me wonder... has anyone tested if people break out of grabs based on their initial damage when grabbed or their final damage?

Also... why didn't omegablackmage play with me?

 

[Pikabunz]

I think it's based on initial damage. An easy way to test this would be to go to training mode and grab someone at 0% then quickly set their damage to 999%.

 

[stnapknah]

That actually makes me wonder... has anyone tested if people break out of grabs based on their initial damage when grabbed or their final damage?

Also... why didn't omegablackmage play with me?

he chews like 6 or 7 times max, and then spits them out. if the other person is mashing to get out, too, he'll get out well before 6 or 7 times. My point is that you want to be ready when the opponent gets spit out, so hold left or right and mash b.

 

[Masky]

..........

 

[Corrupted]

no... just no



wow PhantomX I expected more from you, uthrow is actually really good, watch how Afro Thunder uses (er... used it) for example it if you want to see why

I agree. Characters with bad aerial movement, bad options from below, floaty and no other tricks (b reversal ect) get really nervous. Fthrow does nice damage but doesn't combo or put wario in a good position,
If you're good at predicting an airdodge its too good.

 

[PhantomX]

Everyone has their preferences, Masky. I'm not amazing at predicting people so uthrow is less useful for me than the guaranteed damage of fthrow... besides, my Wario isn't like most... I prefer to pressure people offstage than onstage.

 

[YagamiDark]

I like to scare them after an Uthrow. It's great for baiting airdodges.
I like fthrow too. Leads into a DACUS nicely at lower percentages.

 

[Popertop]

Everyone has their preferences, Masky. I'm not amazing at predicting people so uthrow is less useful for me than the guaranteed damage of fthrow... besides, my Wario isn't like most... I prefer to pressure people offstage than onstage.

you can also pivot grab them if they try to Dair you

but yeah, onstage pressure is legit, you get lots of damage from Wario's grab mixups, and putting people in bad position makes them predictable.

offstage is good, but I mainly like to do that at higher percents (at low percents too if they have a bad recovery)

 

[_Phloat_]

no... just no



wow PhantomX I expected more from you, uthrow is actually really good, watch how Afro Thunder uses (er... used it) for example it if you want to see why

What you fail to realize, my good sir, is that Wario's f-throw makes you spin.

Spinning is cool, and makes them dizzy. Why would you u-throw ever?

 

[lucha5]

Hey guys, Um i need some match-up help for metaknight.
Okay well my sis has Spammy mk She literally just d-smash nado and up+b and her approach is a dash d-throw grab with f-air and when Im on top of her U-air. I can easily punish that spam at sv and FD but she loves picking Bf and Yoshi island( Yoshi because that green ledge pop-ups to save her butt so many times).

I read the guide on his match-up but I just cant seem to beat her I mean like just now I was playing her on Yoshi I would approach her with D-air she would either take da full shield and punish me with d-smash or when she's high % she would start planking or when we're both high % She would go on the other side spamming d-smash. Or when im up a stock she would pause da game to get some Bs water <.<


I kinda figure out My f-air stops her up+b glide mode. But I just keep falling for those dam d-smash that dont get affected by stale moves and up+b to finsh me off.
I go for f-throw grabs whenever I can,Normallly I dont play her But since my parents dont have the money for wi-fi (Using neighbors for wi-fi). I have no choice for some kinda of Decent Practice
So anything i should be doing differntly Be more patient I think
Sorry for big Text.

 

[drunk3ng0ldfish]

alrighty. so i've been watching japanese matches recently.
and i've noticed that wario players there, kite specifically, use uair to di
why? if i remember right uair is 10 frames longer than dair or fair.

 

[ace_brawler2]

The search didn't come up with this, so don't flame if it's been asked.

What is air camping, and is their a video explaining it or using it thoroughly?

Also, when should dtilt be used?

 

[Padô]

Wario is one of the lttle amount of characters that can aircamp, it's basically like laser camp but floating with retreated aerials...

When you know MK is coming with Dtilt, finger his face

 

[Conspiricy]

If theretically, wario was caught in an enclosed location, faced with a falcon PAWNCH, would the waft cancel it out?

And so much more importantly, does wario use metaknights as toothpicks?

 

[Corrupted]

The search didn't come up with this, so don't flame if it's been asked.

What is air camping, and is their a video explaining it or using it thoroughly?

Also, when should dtilt be used?

Its basically Full jumping around airdodging everything and only striking when you see the perfect oppertunity. If you dont like what you see double jump repeat and get back to the stage to refresh you jumps.


What do you guys think of having the bike on the stage (watch kite vids).

 

[Chileno4Live]

Okay i have some questions. I really like the way Wario plays and he'll fit nicely to my main Marth. (i have to change the icon lol but im to lazy) Anyway, here are some questions:

1. What are the main things i should know and/or remind when i play Wario?

2. Sometimes when i do DACUS, it doesn't do the long distance one, how do you do the long distance DACUS?

3. How do you fight MetaKnight? Are there any moves i should abuse, how do i approach, how do i punish, possibly edgeguarding??

4. How do i do a buffer Dthrow in order to CG some of the cast?

I hope you guys can help me by answering those questions. Thnx in advance !~!

 

[PhantomX]

If we're trapped by a Falcon and he's punching, we can just bite it.

The Japanese use upair b/c they're dumb? I donno, maybe they don't understand the concept of momentum canceling entirely yet.

 

[ssbbFICTION]

FYI aerials dont take away any horizontal momentum at all. for momentum slowing with aerials to work you have to DI the hit upwards and dair so you go into the corner...

 

[YagamiDark]

Okay i have some questions. I really like the way Wario plays and he'll fit nicely to my main Marth. (i have to change the icon lol but im to lazy) Anyway, here are some questions:

1. What are the main things i should know and/or remind when i play Wario?

Be unpredictable. Stay in the air most of the time. Don't get grabbed. If you do, do a ground grab break. Mindgames.

2. Sometimes when i do DACUS, it doesn't do the long distance one, how do you do the long distance DACUS?

Just practice. I had (have) the same problem. It gets better with practice

3. How do you fight MetaKnight? Are there any moves i should abuse, how do i approach, how do i punish, possibly edgeguarding??

I'm not too sure. But:
Ftilt goes through tornado and has great range, use it to kill
SDI out of the Tornado
Dair through the top of the tornado
Dair > Shuttle Loop
I don't get to play IRL people enough, let alone MK's

4. How do i do a buffer Dthrow in order to CG some of the cast?
Eh, just input the turnaround grab before the grab's complete

I hope you guys can help me by answering those questions. Thnx in advance !~!

omg10charslookup

 

[PhantomX]

FYI aerials dont take away any horizontal momentum at all. for momentum slowing with aerials to work you have to DI the hit upwards and dair so you go into the corner...

Don't tell them upwards, the direction you DI depends on the trajectory of the hit. For horizontal hits you go straight upwards...

 

[omegablackmage]

you only do the aerial just to pull you out of your tumble animation. Its actually the double jump and fastfall that come right after the aerial that actually cancel your momentum.

this is why doing your dair is best to survive with because it does your fastest aerial and fastfalls you all in one. You just need to double jump afterwards.

 

[lucha5]

Hey guys, Um i need some match-up help for metaknight.
Okay well my sis has Spammy mk She literally just d-smash nado and up+b and her approach is a dash d-throw grab with f-air and when Im on top of her U-air. I can easily punish that spam at sv and FD but she loves picking Bf and Yoshi island( Yoshi because that green ledge pop-ups to save her butt so many times).

I read the guide on his match-up but I just cant seem to beat her I mean like just now I was playing her on Yoshi I would approach her with D-air she would either take da full shield and punish me with d-smash or when she's high % she would start planking or when we're both high % She would go on the other side spamming d-smash. Or when im up a stock she would pause da game to get some Bs water <.<


I kinda figure out My f-air stops her up+b glide mode. But I just keep falling for those dam d-smash that dont get affected by stale moves and up+b to finsh me off.
I go for f-throw grabs whenever I can,Normallly I dont play her But since my parents dont have the money for wi-fi (Using neighbors for wi-fi). I have no choice for some kinda of Decent Practice
So anything i should be doing differntly Be more patient I think
Sorry for big Text.

Any help sorry for Double

 

[smash brawl player 99021]

Why is Wario so amazing?

 

[_Phloat_]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=233436

thar ya go icy

 

[Razmakazi]

any general tips for hitting with waft or the best ways to hit w/ it (set-ups, scenarios, etc.)?

also is it bad to hold on to a fully charged waft for a long time or to just take a risk with it so u can just charge one with actual kill power all over again?

 

[Chileno4Live]

Sorry this might be a newbish question but how do you do the stuff OoS? I only know how to Jump Cancel the shield like with Marth's UpB but how do you Shield cancel to a Ftilt or Fsmash??

 

[_Phloat_]

Let go of your shield and then use the move.

 

[omegablackmage]

yeah grounded moves are usually not really cancelled out of shield, like phloat said, you just drop your shield and do the move. For aerials, jumping drops your shield instantly so things like up b and any aerial could be done out of shield.

This had more application in melee where you could jump out and then wavedash back to the ground.

 

[Jim Morrison]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=234869&page=4

Can any of you Wario's help us out here with the stage discussion?

 

[smashkng]

Can Chomp cancel Dedede's up b super armor?

 

[Masky]

..........

 

[MorphedChaos]

Dunno why you say a camping Wario is for bad Warios Phantom, try camping MK or other fast characters, its almost harder then fighting them mono-e-mono, lol.

 

[Popertop]

yur prolly doin it rong

 

[PhantomX]

It's not hard if you're really far away from them.

 

[MorphedChaos]

Aw, but thats no fun!

I would like to know though, can you aircamp a fellow Wario? I don't think you can, lol.

 

[FattyFatFatso]

You can aircamp a fellow Wario. I can attest to that with DMG :/