VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)

[VA]

Split em up, spam the **** out of FC nairs on nana, she dies. If popo tries to stop you it's usually predictable and just turn around and nair him away.

I mean, I did lose to chu dats single ICs on high % at Apex but I can still talk right?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Yeah you can still talk. I haven't played the match-up before and I would have said the same thing

 

[crush]

I agree
^.^ !

 

[MacD]

that's how i beat fly =D

 

[KirbyKaze]

ICs Peach as the ICs is played best by Wobbles. Like, Fly does a ton of really good stuff, but Wobbles I think has the best general style against her. Just get her into the air in any way you can and try to out-position her with hammers. Uair, u-smash, f-smash are good, even fair. Don't let Nana get faired for any reason or she'll probably die unless you somehow defend her from an angry Peach with just Popo. Constantly reset to neutral. Largely ignore turnips (or catch them) because you have two characters.

He also has some really ghetto tricks to trick people into giving him free grabs. They're neat. ICs are so gimmicky-friendly as a character. I guess that's common when your character design is kind of unique (their zones are extremely dynamic, a lot of stuff just doesn't work on them, and they control space in a really weird way) and involves death-grabs, though.

 

[kalamazhu]

against fox when should u dsmash on their shield because sometimes the fox can WD OOS shine usmash out of the dsmash. but then sometimes the dsmash pokes so idk when to do it and when not to?

 

[DoH]

Make sure yoü have attacked his shield to deplete it first

 

[KirbyKaze]

Make sure yoü have attacked his shield to deplete it first

This is actually good advice against any character with a decent shield. And part of why I keep telling Irish to grab Sheik and toss her towards the edge or onto a platform about 5x more than he's currently doing it.

 

[DoH]

PP is so ****ing good at not getting shield stabbed by downsmash, it's unreal

 

[MacD]

This is actually good advice against any character with a decent shield. And part of why I keep telling Irish to grab Sheik and toss her towards the edge or onto a platform about 5x more than he's currently doing it.

you could dsmash sheiks shield twice and even then you'd be lucky to poke through it

sooooooooo dumb

glad i never have to play that match up ever again

....

unless someone at apex hates me

maybe i'll just go falco

 

[Rosedemon]

Is it time to bust out our Fox/Falco team Mccain?

 

[MacD]

you know

i think it might be

and when that inevitably fails

let's do double sheik

 

[Rosedemon]

*****es aint ready

 

[VA]

I just watched DoH + Redd vs M2k + Kage. If I evermake it back to the US for a tournament, I now want DoH to team with me.

Btw I have a new haircut and look like thin man (but fatter than he is) from Charlie's Angels

 

[PK Webb]

I'm planning on it. I asked a few people if they knew you but it's hard to be like "YO PALPI WHO ARE YOU" lol
I'll do my best, haha. I'm planning on it. Dart and I are planning on teaming :3
also, me vs niko is on MeleeAtlNorth if anyone feels like watching my peach be a basic biitch. Game 1 wasn't recorded, he did a pretty nasty last stock comeback on me sighhhh hard to say i **** marths when i lose to niko, i mean he's good and all but it's a nasty mark on my record

Im sorry maf but its not nasty at all. like this dude beats eggm,stric9,teczero,cactuar, and yes even yours truly twebb (lol at my name being on the list). i was expecting a close fight but i also was expecting niko to win. All of the ny kids saw u as the underdog so for the underdog to lose is...........natural i suppose. Niko is way better than your giving him credit. but good stuff in the fight i enjoyed it

 

[Teczer0]

This is VaNz

I'm at teco's place. and we're streaming for anyone who wants to see, ask questions, talk, etc. we'll answer live :D

http://www.livestream.com/smwrun

 

[Wake]

Oh never mind. I love DJL. I was just messing around with it today.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

Oh never mind. I love DJL. I was just messing around with it today.

never mind what?

yo people i was playing with some friends today and I was implementing so much of the **** i have always known i should do but never did. I still have a lot of rough edges to work out but i am feeling good about it. and on a similar note thanks for all the wavedash advice

 

[Wake]

I was walking about how wavelanding looked cooler and how I wasn't sure which one was faster. DJL and Wavelanding both have their place with Peach I think. I gotta work that into my game more.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

o right, i didnt make the connection. yea so djlp is pretty cool but i have not had a good time to use it yet.

edit: also today i found out just how nice wavedash back is against marth (they were not great marths but still)

 

[The Irish Mafia]

Im sorry maf but its not nasty at all. like this dude beats eggm,stric9,teczero,cactuar, and yes even yours truly twebb (lol at my name being on the list). i was expecting a close fight but i also was expecting niko to win. All of the ny kids saw u as the underdog so for the underdog to lose is...........natural i suppose. Niko is way better than your giving him credit. but good stuff in the fight i enjoyed it

I'm saying i dislike losing to marths in the first place, and on top of that, i really dislike being the underdog and losing
idk niko and i have close games, i'll just **** him up next time :3 I really don't feel bad about losing that set because i know it coulda gone either way

 

[crush]

I'm saying i dislike losing to marths in the first place, and on top of that, i really dislike being the underdog and losing
idk niko and i have close games, i'll just **** him up next time :3 I really don't feel bad about losing that set because i know it coulda gone either way

yeah definitely. good job irish!!!!!!

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

yo went to a small tourney today, i got 5th which is solid. in losers i lost to a friend of mine but i won a game off him and it could of gone ether way (i think i got this net time).

In winners I lost to G$ but i did better against him then last time, plus in some serious friendlies took a game from him and for some reason I played him in a young link ditto and I won that match as well.

For the most part I did pretty well and felt pretty good but I played some friendlies against a guy named hass or hazz or something like that. he destroyed me, like I dont even know how to explain how badly i got wrecked. What i realized is how i dont face any good falcos and I really need some training in that match b/c o god I got wrecked. (This guy also won the tourney)

Edit: Also Michigan beat Ohio State today so it was a good day

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

sorry for the double post.

I realize now that when i was facing hazz it was the first time where i just didnt have any answers. Like most the time when i lose or am losing I can look at what i am doing and know where my mistakes r, but I honestly atm have no answers for him, kinda disheartening. but This doesnt mean I am going to quit or anything I just need to step up my game

 

[Teczer0]

Players like that happen every now and then.

I have someone where I sorta feel the same. And Hazz is a very solid player nothing be upset over.

 

[Heart Break Kid]

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. Sorry that was me, I enetered the tourney as Hazz haha! I did it cuz hazz is a ***** and doesnt go to **** anymore. But I was playing real good, I beat G with Sheik in winners...then Falcon in grand...yea thats how good I was playing. G usually handles my Falcon

 

[Teczer0]

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. Sorry that was me, I enetered the tourney as Hazz haha! I did it cuz hazz is a ***** and doesnt go to **** anymore. But I was playing real good, I beat G with Sheik in winners...then Falcon in grand...yea thats how good I was playing. G usually handles my Falcon

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

 

[Redd]

Damn HBK *****

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

Looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool. Sorry that was me, I enetered the tourney as Hazz haha! I did it cuz hazz is a ***** and doesnt go to **** anymore. But I was playing real good, I beat G with Sheik in winners...then Falcon in grand...yea thats how good I was playing. G usually handles my Falcon

lol really, how the **** would i of known lol. its cool and doesnt change anything u wrecked my ****. and i have no idea how to fight u. yea so u probably figure who i am, I mean their for some reason were 2 other peach's but I played u in two friendly sets and u wrecked me. Like i figure even if u were not playing on point as u say u were I still didnt have much of a shot against u.

edit: o I am kinda happy that out of three peachs there i was the highest placing one . (I even knocked one out of the tourney which kinda sucks b/c i hate the ditto)

 

[john!]

just got back from a 30 man tourney

i was the highest placing peach

and the lowest placing peach

lol peach

 

[Wake]

ha niiice! Was anything recorded?

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

well i figure u r talking to john but nothing from my tourney was recorded.

@john lol peach. and how did u do over all? and as wake asked anything get recorded

 

[Wake]

haha I totally forgot that you went to a tourney too Sorry about that!

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

no its cool. i am happy nothing of mine was recorded b/c I only had a couple of shiny moments, most of how I played I feel looks kinda scruby. (but this might just be me being hard on myself. i mean i did take a game from G$ this time so thats kinda good i think)

 

[Wake]

I guess we'll never know now!

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

i think its better that way (at least for my ego )

 

[john!]

@john lol peach. and how did u do over all? and as wake asked anything get recorded

i got 9th overall, but managed to take both tink and darkatma to one-stock third games. i don't think anything got recorded, but i'll put vids up for critique if i find any

 

[Wake]

Tink and Atma? Nice! I wish I could've seen that.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

yea nice, its to bad if none were recorded, I to would like to see the matches.

 

[john!]

yeah they went sheik on me and that's one of my best matchups.

actually i just remembered that only game 2 vs. atma was close, because he destroyed me in a peach ditto game 3