VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)

[Wake]

Hope he messes up? Get ready to DI?

 

[ShroudedOne]

"Not get grabbed."

Of course, this is poor advice, but we really don't have any hope until 80 or so, at LEAST. I've noticed that around there, we can DI behind him and 'maybe' avoid a followup, but a knee will kill before then, anyways, so it doesn't matter (except for on Dreamland).

That's why I hate the Falcon match up. Whenever Falcon gets a grab on Peach, she's free as frogs, and there's little we can do about it.

 

[Wake]

Yeah, but Peach can do a lot to Falcon off of grabs it seems like.

But yeah it's tough, you'll probably get knee'ed, it's ok. Peach is a trooper.

 

[ShroudedOne]

I would argue that Falcon gets waay more profit off of grabs on Peach than she does on him (although you didn't say that she did, just something to point out). She's got chaingrabs until roughly 80, and maybe uthrow combos if they don't DI (not entirely sure about this). Falcon has dthrow > regrab, nair, uair, knee, etc.

 

[PandaCobo]

Last question what is a good thing to practice or things to practice by your self with peach. Not a lot of good players play where I am from so I don't get a lot of human practice. How can I improve is basically what I am asking

 

[Wake]

Practice movement on all the levels. In other words, practice being fluid and fast. Practice wavelanding. I would also practice ledge teching with motion sensor bombs on training mode. Maybe practice power shielding lasers... umm chain grabs maybe. Float cancels. Stuff like that I guess. However, finding people to play with is probably the best.

 

[PandaCobo]

Ok that all makes sense except im kinda lost like place the motion sensor bomb on the edge of the stage of the side? Teching has never been my strong point

 

[Wake]

Yeah stick the bomb to the side and then up b into it.

 

[N.A.G.A.C.E]

so played the guy i was having trouble with using my new mentality and I was on fire. First i just want to say i am not sure if he was 100% for a reason i wont go into but if used it as a excuse i would believe it. Anyway even if he was not 100% i dont know if ive ever played this well b4. So i am hoping its the mentality and not just a really good day. B/c if it was a great day b/c of my new way of looking at the game it sort of gives me more room to improve then if I just had one good day.

What was weird if way to often i got wrecked on my first stock, but then i would come back to life and just go insane for the rest of the match. to explain this better... more then once i was nearly if not 0-deathed on my first stock but then in these same matches I would ether come back and take very little dmg and kill them right back or for the rest of the match i would just be playing great and bring it back for two stocks or low 1 stock wins. Now someone might read this and think how the **** does he think he played great today even through he was getting wrecked on his first stock. well let me tell u, i feel good about this day b/c I won almost all of my matches and having such a bad first stock gives me a lot of room for improvement. So if i just get that first stock under control and play the whole match as well as I do for the rest of my stocks I could be winning by much more then i currently am.

So not sure if anyone cares about this but it was a good day and i am psyched about how I played

 

[ShroudedOne]

Well, good job! Sometimes, I have "good days," but I make the mistake of assuming that this means that I've gotten better, instead of realizing that I have a lot of room for improvement, like you said.

When realizations like these come along, you have to seize them, and make the most of what they mean. So it's good that you have.

 

[Paju]

Please help me with the Peach vs Sheik, Peach vs Luigi, Peach vs Doc and Peach ditto matchups! I really suck on all of those matchups as I don't have anyone to practice those matchups with. Unfortunately I don't really have any good recent videos of me playing those matchups, but any general advice would really help. Things like what should I be scared of, how should I counter their approaches/how should I approach etc would be really helpfull.

Edit: Here is the most recent set of me playing against Sheik (first 2 matches): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3oujDRZIc4 However the set isn't that good as the sheik player does SD's and loses all momentum after that. =(

Edit 2: And yeah I'm playing PAL version.

 

[baka4moé]

do you ever like watch yourself play and be like "wow, that peach is really ugly and sloppy" and then remember that thats you T_T

 

[KirbyKaze]

No, why?

 

[MacD]

i watch myself play and go like "wow i'm bad"

 

[KirbyKaze]

You think I'm pretty...

 

[MacD]

without any makeup on

 

[KirbyKaze]

You think I'm funny

 

[Rosedemon]

When I tell the punch line wrong

 

[MacD]

i know you get me

 

[KirbyKaze]

So I let my walls come down

dooooowwwwn~

 

[Rosedemon]

Before you met me, I was alright

 

[KirbyKaze]

but things were kind of heavy

 

[baka4moé]

im afraid i dont get the reference

anywaysssssss that happened to me as i watched my videos recently...=[

 

[Rosedemon]

wow, are you serious bro?

 

[KirbyKaze]

im afraid i dont get the reference

 

[MacD]

ok

he is totally banned and obviously never going to be good at peach

 

[Rosedemon]

brb omw to Socal right quick

 

[ShroudedOne]

do you ever like watch yourself play and be like "wow, that peach is really ugly and sloppy" and then remember that thats you T_T

I don't record enough...but when I do, I can say yeah, I have the same issue...

I also don't get the reference...but apparently you're in danger, baka.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Josh Kloss looks really hot in the music video.

 

[darkatma]

vanz you're pruy good
i wanna see some wins next time though

 

[ShroudedOne]

Oh god.

GOD.

REALLY!? That song?

Ugh...no...keep it away from me...

 

[MacD]

omg alan and kk, it's obvious we aren't wanted here

lets just have aim convos for the rest of ever

 

[KirbyKaze]

:/

*up+Bs*

 

[ShroudedOne]

Well you don't have to leave...

There are other Katy Perry songs worth listening to.

 

[Rosedemon]

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

Does any peach use the sh uair into float?

 

[baka4moé]

just kidding hehe...kidding....

sorry guys i like katy perry but i dont really listen to lyrics/remember them that hard/well....

 

[john!]

yeah i've heard that song like 5 times but i had to google the lyrics because i'm bad at remembering lyrics

 

[choknater]

amazing avatar kirbykaze

some digimon were mad hot.

 

[john!]

that's... a digimon? 0_o