Rosedemon
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VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)
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Wake
Smash Master
So, if you're a black Peach main, the force is with you.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
So guys
What's the correct way to hold a turnip (or any item) as as Peach and still be able to perform aerials? I faintly remember how it's done in Brawl but I feel like I definitely need to learn this if I'm ever going to become a threat as melee Peach.
What's the correct way to hold a turnip (or any item) as as Peach and still be able to perform aerials? I faintly remember how it's done in Brawl but I feel like I definitely need to learn this if I'm ever going to become a threat as melee Peach.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Float and then aerial
Input is like: X or Y (hold button) > flick down (continue to hold button) > aerial
If you're holding a sword (or similar combat item) then don't c-stick when you're not floating. The sword lets you do Fairs and whatever without floating while still holding the sword.
Input is like: X or Y (hold button) > flick down (continue to hold button) > aerial
If you're holding a sword (or similar combat item) then don't c-stick when you're not floating. The sword lets you do Fairs and whatever without floating while still holding the sword.
baka4moé
Smash Champion
hahaha i like ur comment on that vid
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I would be happy about this, but I hate pulling beamswords...
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
Thanks
New question guys: I was playing around with a CPU earlier just to work on tech skill stuff. One time when it was coming back to the stage I Dtilted just as it was reaching the ledge and it got spiked. Is this a function of the move or was it simply due to crazy CPU DI into a stage spike?
Also: what's the right way to tech chase with Dthrow? Just theorycrafting while I was playing around earlier I was thinking follow the person's DI to where they land and then start crouching. That way if they normal getup I can just regrab or Dsmash or whatever, and if they getup attack I'm crouch canceling it, and if I work on my reaction time then I might be able to follow rolls to the side.
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D-tilt spikes at a weird place. I don't know where it is, but that's a function of the move.Thanks
New question guys: I was playing around with a CPU earlier just to work on tech skill stuff. One time when it was coming back to the stage I Dtilted just as it was reaching the ledge and it got spiked. Is this a function of the move or was it simply due to crazy CPU DI into a stage spike?
Also: what's the right way to tech chase with Dthrow? Just theorycrafting while I was playing around earlier I was thinking follow the person's DI to where they land and then start crouching. That way if they normal getup I can just regrab or Dsmash or whatever, and if they getup attack I'm crouch canceling it, and if I work on my reaction time then I might be able to follow rolls to the side.
:D I swear, every five pages, down throw discussion comes up. If you d-throw a floatie, if they DI behind you, I believe you can dash attack them. If they don't DI, then you can chaingrab them, or upsmash them (have NOT gotten this to work yet), or f-tilt them (if you want style points). If you downthrow a fastfaller, they will probably tech it. If they tech away from you, then I don't think you can chase them. If they tech in place or towards you, I guess you can have a free downsmash/grab. It's better to expect them to tech than it is to expect them to just hit the ground and lie there. That's never safe.
I think that's all good information...
bladeofapollo
Smash Ace
I think it's a meteor, but I've gotten it a couple of times against humans. Kinda like Link's Dtilt, only harder to spike with.
::EDIT:: Yes, Shrouded, that sounds correct.
::EDIT:: Yes, Shrouded, that sounds correct.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfLiUmHL6HA
Found this... have it at, Peaches. =) I use Peach the last 3 games (we were down 0-2)
Found this... have it at, Peaches. =) I use Peach the last 3 games (we were down 0-2)
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
I'm very confused, why does he roll so much? More importantly why does it sometimes work? I especially love how after the roll->ps->grab in the final match axe seemed afraid to punish Xelic's rolls.
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
How long does Uthrow chainthrow for? I've seen it used on spacies, does it just work on that weight class or does it work on others as well? I know I've been asking a lot of throw questions lately so sorry if I already asked something similar to this
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On Falco/Fox, the up throw chain grab lasts up until about 110-120%, I believe, though you might not want to go that high. On Falcon, it's about 80 or so. As far as I know, those are the only three it works on reliably.
THIS. Too pro.
I think looking at teams matches are more difficult, because there is a lot more going on, but I can say a couple things (literally a couple):
When she teams with Fox (as I understand it, anyways) Peach is kinda supposed to tank stocks for Fox. The roles seemed reversed here, and it didn't necessarily work against you in any of the matches, it's just something to keep in mind. A good team knows what works best for them, and if this works for you, that's perfectly fine.
You down smash a lot. I think you can get away with it significantly more in teams, but in the second match that you used Peach in, you got rested for it. Be more careful with her downsmash.
MacD
Banned via Administration
hahaha, was not expecting you to look like that, but it all makes sense
My girlfriend posted this to her wall ^
Then, Landon posted this to my wall v
DoH
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Brookman is a dreamboat McCain
Also I love my new avatar
Also I love my new avatar
MacD
Banned via Administration
like i said, it all makes sense
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
nah
sidestep twice to over b has been rather productive for me recently
sidestep twice to over b has been rather productive for me recently
john!
Smash Hero
you are all forgetting about cc -> toad
baka4moé
Smash Champion
speaking of rolls, i remember watching this live and was like wtf. idk how to link at specific times, but jump to 7:11 to around 7:18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz3trO06Yfo
lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz3trO06Yfo
lol
Palpi
Smash Hero
Xelic is the truth.
Wake
Smash Master
haha MacD rolled like all the way across the stage 
MacD
Banned via Administration
speaking of that http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XX7lDgXh7cA#t=9m37s
Wake
Smash Master
MacD's rolls are too good.
crush
Smash Master
Armadas recovery game is sub-optimal because he never uses toad to get extra height.
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
Does this actually work?Armadas recovery game is sub-optimal because he never uses toad to get extra height.
mers
Smash Ace
Spamming roll is seriously amazing sometimes. Around once per game in tourney I'll buffer roll back and forth to get rid of my opponent's respawn invincibility. I have yet to be punished for it.
Palpi
Smash Hero
When I'm not peach, I just run through my opponents then wd back, then run through them again, people don't catch On.
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When I played Brawl, I was taught that rolling was bad.
When I came over here, I was still told that rolling was bad. And now I read all of this.
*identity crisis ensues*
When I came over here, I was still told that rolling was bad. And now I read all of this.
*identity crisis ensues*
crush
Smash Master
-Vocal-
Smash Hero
It's like you're reading my mind
adumbrodeus
Smash Legend
I can't believe they let you do that, lolololololol
They're joking or insane. Not quite sure which yet. Then again, I've heard playing peach tends to do that.
MacD
Banned via Administration
idk, sometimes i just feel it, like the right/best/safest thing for me to do in the situation is to roll all the way across the stage.
it's partly being experienced, partly panicking and not wavedashing or nairing OoS, and partly desperation lol
it's partly being experienced, partly panicking and not wavedashing or nairing OoS, and partly desperation lol