Jonas
Smash Champion
Nobody hates Marth anymore. He's mostly pitied.
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Top ten at Apex 2013 predictions.
- Thread starter hungrybox
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outofphase
Smash Apprentice
1.mango
2.hbox
3.armada
4.pp
5.fly
5.m2k
7.taj
7.kirbykaze
honestly think mango is gonna get off, courtesy of every female of close relation to everybody he plays
2.hbox
3.armada
4.pp
5.fly
5.m2k
7.taj
7.kirbykaze
honestly think mango is gonna get off, courtesy of every female of close relation to everybody he plays
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My most hated characters, in order of how badly they are designed:
Falco
Puff
Fox
ICs
The rest of the chars are relatively fine (every character is bull**** and I've come to just accept it, these are the worst offenders)
Falco
Puff
Fox
ICs
The rest of the chars are relatively fine (every character is bull**** and I've come to just accept it, these are the worst offenders)
Bones0
Smash Legend
I think ICs frustrate me way more than any other character.
LittleBoyLarry
Smash Journeyman
Peach's dsmash = a spacies worst enemy
I dislike the peach ics and jiggs matchup the most.
Also, as a falco main my favorite matchup is against Marth. As a secondary Marth main my fav matchup is against falco. I love playing against falco, it's about as even a matchup as it comes!
Also, as a falco main my favorite matchup is against Marth. As a secondary Marth main my fav matchup is against falco. I love playing against falco, it's about as even a matchup as it comes!
boss8
Smash Hero
y wtf? your falco....LOOL
S l o X
Smash Champion
IC
Peach
Puff
Falco
every other character tied here
Peach
Puff
Falco
every other character tied here
joejoe22802
Smash Ace
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- 873
KK Top 4
Lovage Top 10
Lovage Top 10
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
How can Falcon be anything but the most hate-worthy character in this game?
Falcon
Fox
Peach
Falco
Others
Falcon
Fox
Peach
Falco
Others
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Falcon is actually the character I dislike the most in the game tbh.
boss8
Smash Hero
how can you hate falcon?
Jockmaster
Smash Ace
Yeah I hate fighting Falcon the most
Personally:
Falcon
Falco
Sheik
Peach
Fox
Everyone else
Personally:
Falcon
Falco
Sheik
Peach
Fox
Everyone else
Kink-Link5
Smash Hero
Being like a suuuuper ghetto PAL Sheik has a lot to do with it.
Bones0
Smash Legend
Is it considered that bad of a matchup for ICs? Lasers don't work half the time because of Nana getting in the way, and it's stupid easy to get a KO any time they touch me. Then there's random wavesmashes to get even dumber KOs, and they can do the same thing to cover every tech option. I'm also just bad at the matchup because I've played like 20 matches vs. ICs ever.
The only characters that should hate Falcon are Marth, Peach, and Samus imo. lol @ dial-a-combo matchups.
That matchup is hideous for ICs. Falco has easily the safest grab game against them, one of the asiest/safest/fastest Nana-gimping games, easy edgeguarding, and (if your spacing isn't atrocious) he's almost always safe against their shield.
The thing is, Falco players usually mess up, so IC players just touch them and then they die. But when your opponent ISN'T impulsive or inconsistent, the matchup is a nightmare for the ICs.
The thing is, Falco players usually mess up, so IC players just touch them and then they die. But when your opponent ISN'T impulsive or inconsistent, the matchup is a nightmare for the ICs.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Combination of the players johning up a storm whenever I so much as plug in, being horrible against him, and how boring it is to fight someone who camps the other side of the stage with dash dance or does nothing but jump around platforms.
It's the same reason I dislike fighting most low tiers. They try to win by laming you out. See: Young Link.
V3ctorMan
Smash Champion
Not really.... *sigh* You should be lucky, I even got him to show. You guys don't even know what I had to go through just to get him to show up, he didn't want to show up for reasons...^just like this, people's expectations go bananas, SOMETIMES players wanna show up, not worry about pressure/performance, JUST TO HAVE A GOOD time, reunite with old friends, and have a fun reunion/vacation... and then when he doesn't perform, he gets criticized, see my earlier post, in this thread somewhere... You've ALL (well mostly all) have already done it once, I'd rather him not go through this again... We all should know by now, he's one of the best.
NOTE: I'm not trying to make it sound like i'm "mad/upset about your comment" i'm not, just, that i felt was a lil overkill is all
Honestly probably Marth, (though he has been playing a new character ALOT as of late.. He'll likely play his Mewtwo in friendlies/MM's upon request... but his mewtwo, has not been the same, (he's stilll by far the best Mewtwo) but nowhere near his abilities since his "main" Mewtwo controller stopped working, so he's adapting to a new controller, and apparently can't do what he wants to do and some of his "cookies" with the new controller he's adapting to, so because of that hasn't been using Mewtwo much as of late.
This makes meKnowing that taj is coming changes my top ten prediction...
Don't worry if we play I most definetely won't "lame" you out, that's wack... and Yoshi's not lame, so that's technically impossible anyway.. /biased <3 xD
HoChiMinhTrail
Smash Master
idk who any of those noobs are, only fruitloop and duck would do work tho. u got some **** to work out slox
HoChiMinhTrail
Smash Master
false, they **** that **** ez
Divinokage
Smash Legend
So you basically hate someone that uses the same style against you? lol.
You think it's fun being CG?
It was a joke, based on how it would be ridiculous to "expect" taj to get top 3 again. I'm just glad he's going.Not really.... *sigh* You should be lucky, I even got him to show. You guys don't even know what I had to go through just to get him to show up, he didn't want to show up for reasons...^just like this, people's expectations go bananas, SOMETIMES players wanna show up, not worry about pressure/performance, JUST TO HAVE A GOOD time, reunite with old friends, and have a fun reunion/vacation... and then when he doesn't perform, he gets criticized, see my earlier post, in this thread somewhere... You've ALL (well mostly all) have already done it once, I'd rather him not go through this again... We all should know by now, he's one of the best.
NOTE: I'm not trying to make it sound like i'm "mad/upset about your comment" i'm not, just, that i felt was a lil overkill is all
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Being comboed isn't the same as someone trying to time you out (a la YL) or trying to play the MU as non-interactively as possible (platform camps, etc).
*shrug*
Just a preference. In some ways I like seeing Falcos in my bracket just because it's not really beneficial for the character to do that.
edit: FWIW most good players don't try this stuff. I don't wanna make it seem like I'm calling out S2J or whatever because I'm not. Most good players are legitimately fun to play for me, even defensively extreme ones (and even if I hate their character). I just dislike efforts to make the game non-interactive in the neutral game by funneling everything into quasi-stalemate tactics.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Ya but you do realize people do it to you because you are Sheik + your style?
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Oh, I understand why they do it. I kill people by touching them. Any means to not be touched is therefore preferable to something that could involve them being touched. Movement-centric camping strats that focus on platform abuse are an immediately obvious way to do so. So I get it, I really do.
That said, it doesn't make it any funner to fight.
That said, it doesn't make it any funner to fight.
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The only character in this game that I legitimately hate, and will for all time, is Falcon. It's a mix of the underserved love he gets, mixed with his faceroll EASY auto-combos, his stupid speed + dash dance...I literally JUST get dash danced until I decide to do something.
Yeah, I main Peach. This is biased. I don't care.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
I definitely saw a drastic improvement with Chillin since FC, he might if he did the proper training.
False, most Falcos just screw up 4 times before getting the job done. So you win. But he doesn't ever have to let you.
HoChiMinhTrail
Smash Master
Next time I see you, I'd like to go through this with you in person.
Shocksauce
Smash Cadet
if wobbles and/or waffles isn't commentating i'm done.
Bones0
Smash Legend
What do you mean by safest grab game? Do you mean how dthrow and fthrow hit the non-grabbed IC, or are you referring to something else?
I mean that laser->grab is very hard for them to stop without taking giant risks, d-throw splits them up and leads to ridiculously safe comboing for a bunch of reasons, f-throw isn't guaranteed safe but if you grab Popo it's a godlike setup for Nana-killing. Other characters risk getting effed up when they grab ICs, Falco does not because his D-throw is such a jerk.
Trail: If you have anti-Falco technology that I'm not aware of--that actually works on good Falcos--I want it. I will sell you my least necessary organs to have it. And bear in mind the Falco I want to beat is PP, since other Falcos make mistakes at least 4 times a match so I beat them. Axe crushes me in friendlies with Falco but in tournament I just turtle up and wait for the jitters to get him.
Trail: If you have anti-Falco technology that I'm not aware of--that actually works on good Falcos--I want it. I will sell you my least necessary organs to have it. And bear in mind the Falco I want to beat is PP, since other Falcos make mistakes at least 4 times a match so I beat them. Axe crushes me in friendlies with Falco but in tournament I just turtle up and wait for the jitters to get him.
SUNG666
Smash Ace
Mango
Armada
Kirby Kaze
DRPP
Hbox/M2K
Westballz/S2J
Javi will get top 10, Lovage can get top 5
Armada
Kirby Kaze
DRPP
Hbox/M2K
Westballz/S2J
Javi will get top 10, Lovage can get top 5
Predictions:
-Standard top 5 list of mango, armada, pp, hbox, m2k
-Mango will use fox for the first few games against armada, win 1 or 2, then lose 2, then he'll switch to falcon and win the set
-Hbox tries puff against armada's yl, loses first game, switches to ness, wins 1, loses the next, switches back to puff and plays flawlessly to win the set
-PP loses to M2k somewhere in the tourney
*Hbox plays brawl crews again and beats ally with his puff; make it happen!*
Hopes:
-Mango wins apex, USA flags wave and parties for the next week
-Americans will body the japanese at brawl?
-Chillin, PC, M2k get high placings
-M2k keeps his cool and *****
-Standard top 5 list of mango, armada, pp, hbox, m2k
-Mango will use fox for the first few games against armada, win 1 or 2, then lose 2, then he'll switch to falcon and win the set
-Hbox tries puff against armada's yl, loses first game, switches to ness, wins 1, loses the next, switches back to puff and plays flawlessly to win the set
-PP loses to M2k somewhere in the tourney
*Hbox plays brawl crews again and beats ally with his puff; make it happen!*
Hopes:
-Mango wins apex, USA flags wave and parties for the next week
-Americans will body the japanese at brawl?
-Chillin, PC, M2k get high placings
-M2k keeps his cool and *****
This too
HoChiMinhTrail
Smash Master
I think its more of a matter of movement. I don't like the turtle up approach with them against the bird. It's been awhile since ive played a top top falco, but aside from a couple people, that may just be better at the game than either of us, Ice climbers seem to handle the bird rather well.