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Top Smashers for Each Character

KirbyKaze

Smash Legend
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Might as well put Unknown's and M2K's DK on there if you're gonna put in people like Ripple tbh.

I'm actually surprised VaNz, Unknown, and M2K aren't on like... 5-7 of these. For the obscure characters that nobody bothers to use.
 

Strong Badam

Super Elite
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BRoomer
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Guess Taj doesn't count for Mewtwo then since he uses Marth a lot :troll:

Ripple's legit, I think it's just he hasn't played much in the past 1.5years or something and uses Roy a lot more than DK is why I'm better at this point. And I've been traveling to every national for a bit over a year in comparison.
 

ajp_anton

Smash Lord
Joined
Jan 9, 2006
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1,462
Location
Stockholm
I'm pretty sure Hack should be on more chars (low-tiers) than Kirby. Maybe not as the best, but he's definitely one of the few good multi-mains.
 

Ripple

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I wouldn't put me down for DK (yet) I'm super rusty and I main Roy anyways. Plus, I only pull out DK for Peach/samus/Ics/Puff. My Roy is probably 2nd to V-man.

although before Apex at Brainshock beta I was considerably better than Strongbad. and that was probably my prime
 

leffen

Smash Champion
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Jun 30, 2008
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2,032
Location
Stockholm, Sweden
Jesus, Armada should probably be on 5+ on these too.

Who the **** cares, if you don't use them a lot (more than just once) in tournament, then you shouldnt be ranked on them.
 

Varist

Smash Lord
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Feb 7, 2011
Messages
1,603
Location
Austin
Jesus, Armada should probably be on 5+ on these too.

Who the **** cares, if you don't use them a lot (more than just once) in tournament, then you shouldnt be ranked on them.
it is my opinion that this post i quoted is ********

if you had the best dk in the world but you only used him once tournament and all the little pure dk mains didn't come close why can't you be the best DK for the next year?

people need to recognize that people like M2K put a lot of work into their low tiers and when they whip them out they usually do a lot better than the pure mains do just because they're better players

i think we need to get off this "no u can only play and be the best at one character" thing.

Like I remember when people said Mango's falcon didn't count for one of the best falcons because he wasn't pure like the other falcon mains. **** that ****. mango's got a nice falcon and he totally counts. he counts for Link too so watch the **** out Skler :bee:
 

Bing

Smash Master
Joined
Nov 8, 2010
Messages
4,885
Location
St.Catharines, Ontario, Canada
I agree, Unknown should be on like... everyone...

His Marth is legit <-- Beat I.B in Dittos at Apex.
Falco's great
Pichu
Possibly Underrated Doc
I havent seen his DK


If Raynex still played he could be under Mario too...
 

ajp_anton

Smash Lord
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Stockholm
Well, the definition most people use for "best [character] player" is dumb.
Like leffen said, it's probably Armada and Mango on most of them, but because this would make this very important topic meaningless, new badly defined rules are introduced on when a character is mained or not.
 

Zivilyn Bane

Smash Master
Joined
Nov 18, 2004
Messages
3,119
Location
Springfield, MO
Bowser

Captain Falcon
1. S2J
2. Hax
3. Darkrain, SS, Scar
(not including Mango)

Doctor Mario
1. Shroomed
2. HMW
3. OTG

Donkey Kong
1. Mexican
2. Strong Bad

Falco
1. Mango
2. Zhu
3. DaShizWiz

Fox
1. Mango
2. Jman
3. Lucky

Game & Watch
1. j00t

Ganondorf
1. Kage
2. Linguini
3. G. Vice

Ice Climbers
1. Fly
1. Wobbles
3. Trail and Chu if he still plays

Jigglypuff
1. Hbox

Kirby

Link
1. The Germ

Luigi
1. Any of the luigi pros that still play? Ka-Master, Eddy Mexico, ect.

Mario

Marth
1. M2K
2. Taj
3. I. B.
3. Dart
3. PewPewU
3. AustinRC
3. Niko
3. Neutroni
3. TAI
3. Tink
3. Bob$
3. Mango

Mewtwo
1. Taj

Ness

Peach
1. Armada
2. Would be Pink Shinobi if he still played
3. MacD, even after a retired Pink Shinobi :)

Pichu

Pikachu
1. Axe
2. Terral (kidding)

Roy

Samus
1. HugS
2. ihsb
3. Plup
3. Duck
3. Darrell

Shiek
1. M2K
2. Tope
3. Dark Atma
3. Lucien
3. Lots of good foreign sheiks I can't name right now because I hate Sheik

Yoshi

Young Link
1. Armada

Zelda
1. Cosmo
2. TheLake
 

Zivilyn Bane

Smash Master
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Nov 18, 2004
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Location
Springfield, MO
Bizarro Flame and Rockcrock > G.Vice probably.
G. Vice >>>>>>>>>>>>> Kage
Why did I evn put you on the list lol. I forgot about Rockcrock and Bizarro but G.Vice is more of a homie.

Also lol @ my Falco list. I completely forgot about PP on that one. Although Mango, Zhu, Shiz. That's still hitting 3 out of the top 5.
 

Divinokage

Smash Legend
Joined
Aug 6, 2006
Messages
16,250
Location
Montreal, Quebec
Lol I'm sorry I'm generally on no one's side when attempting to make a list which is why a lot of them are biased. The best way to do it is to look at it with objectivity, same goes for tactical purposes.
 

unknown522

Some guy
Joined
Aug 17, 2005
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Toronto, Ontario
this doesn't really have much weight since it's not based on tourney results, but i think ice is the next best marth "main" behind taj.

i played him in a bunch of friendlies on day 3 of apex, and my mind was blown. i think his poor performance was *insert johns here*, but i think he's going to do mad work the next time he shows up in the US.
oh yeah. I was in on that rotation. That was pretty fun.

Also talking with you guys was good too

:phone:
 

john!

Smash Hero
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Nov 19, 2006
Messages
8,063
Location
The Garden of Earthly Delights
it is my opinion that this post i quoted is ********

if you had the best dk in the world but you only used him once tournament and all the little pure dk mains didn't come close why can't you be the best DK for the next year?

people need to recognize that people like M2K put a lot of work into their low tiers and when they whip them out they usually do a lot better than the pure mains do just because they're better players

i think we need to get off this "no u can only play and be the best at one character" thing.

Like I remember when people said Mango's falcon didn't count for one of the best falcons because he wasn't pure like the other falcon mains. **** that ****. mango's got a nice falcon and he totally counts. he counts for Link too so watch the **** out Skler :bee:
this post is really good

m2k and mango would be on most of the low tier top 4 lists.

armada, hbox, and pp would be on quite a few of them too.

melee is a heavily skill based game. many low tier players enjoy playing low tiers because it gives them an element of uniqueness among the community, but the simple fact is that the most skilled player will usually win regardless of character.

m2k's encyclopedic knowledge of the game and mango's mastery of melee's mechanics in general would put them on many top 4 lists (probably at least 10-15)
 

Kite91

Mada Mada Dane
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Mar 19, 2007
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East Stroudsburg, Pa
nahhhhhh whenever darkrain is around he's the top falcon, he's timeless. then s2j and hax
Hax deff takes title of best falcon, since ss, scar, and darkrain stopped playing for however long hax got much better.

And also I prolly shoulda specified if it was best player for each character or player who mains that character cause there is a difference.

:phone:
 

Psychoace

Smash Champion
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Jan 20, 2006
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Manliest city in Texas
Hax deff takes title of best falcon, since ss, scar, and darkrain stopped playing for however long hax got much better.

And also I prolly shoulda specified if it was best player for each character or player who mains that character cause there is a difference.

:phone:
I kinda disagree, in my opinion he kinda rose to the standards SS and Darkrain had. Darkrain whenever he comes back he's just like back in form lol. Right now s2j seems to be pulling better results than hax as well.
 

unknown522

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I kinda disagree, in my opinion he kinda rose to the standards SS and Darkrain had. Darkrain whenever he comes back he's just like back in form lol. Right now s2j seems to be pulling better results than hax as well.
doesnt hax always outplace s2j though?

Aside from maybe genesis 2

:phone:
 

Bing

Smash Master
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Nov 8, 2010
Messages
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St.Catharines, Ontario, Canada
Yeah I was gunna say, Hax is > S2J...

But to simply this debate..
Hax Greatest East Coast Falcon
S2J Greatest West Coast Falcon

And to end this arguement once and for all.

A Fight to the death.
 

Kite91

Mada Mada Dane
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Mar 19, 2007
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East Stroudsburg, Pa
Don't get wrong I mean the other falcons are just amazing u mean it's after the 3 stopped s2j got really good but I think hax is just ahead of them all

:phone:
 
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i am down to have a deathmatch with hax but hax is better tbh
 

TheSaudiMizer

Smash Journeyman
Joined
Dec 31, 2010
Messages
299
Location
High Point
I think Hax is probably a little more safer and is better at some of the fundamentals, but you will definitely go off on people/catch them off guard with some things. I definitely think you have the potential to be better S2J but honestly couldn't tell you what you would have to do. Just keep putting in work, I love watching you play man and I hope you still enjoy playing it.
 

Iron Dragon

Smash Lord
Joined
Aug 5, 2005
Messages
1,239
Location
Arizona
doesnt hax always outplace s2j though?

Aside from maybe genesis 2

:phone:
*ahem* s2j got 17th at Apex and why don't we take a look at who Hax played for 17th....oh yeah >.>

Not sayin it means anything but uh, it's kinda hard to ignore no matter what.
 

strawhats

Smash Master
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Feb 19, 2009
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Bronx
i am down to have a deathmatch with hax but hax is better tbh
I wanna see a s2j vs darkrain falcon ditto, as well as s2j vs jeapie falcon ditto(I can imagine the amount of sheild drops/ledge cancel to sex combos).

Besides this, Darkrain vs all top level falcons would do for me.

:phone:
 

G. Vice

Smash Lord
Joined
Jun 15, 2007
Messages
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Location
Arkansas
Bizarro Flame and Rockcrock > G.Vice probably.
I would definitely agree with this. Overall for sure.


Ziv i appreciate you having my back <3
lol but looking objectively I say they are better. I like to think its reasonably close but just not yet. I am decent vs Falcon though :)

:phone:
 

Diakonos

Smash Lord
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Apr 22, 2009
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Location
Canada
It's hard to talk about top Marths because none of us (M2K excepted, maybe, I guess, somewhat, you could say, sort of) ever seem to really break top 5. Like, what's the highest Marth placing recently at a very big tournament?

I will say that PPU's style is always lots of fun for me to watch. Niko's doing some cool stuff too. Dart is pretty reliable against Fox/Falcon. But it's really hard to say cuz we would probably all get beaten by top-9 placers.

Oh, and Hax/S2J are both fantastic and probably pretty close. From what I've seen on recent vids, I would give it to S2J, though...
 

Bl@ckChris

Smash Hero
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Oct 4, 2009
Messages
7,443
Location
Greensboro, NC
*sigh*

if i could've beaten vmans yoshi like i took out his roy maybe i'd be on some of these lists...

i'm still behind the major ganons though (kage, guini, rockcrock)...but i need to play g. vice...one day...

shoutouts to carroll for the respect though.
 
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